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    Default Would you Still Fire Dantoni Mid Season/End Season

    Here is a question for everyone. With the 3 game streak we have just won, the apparent team chemistry and the emergence of J Lin. Would everyone still take the chance and fire Dantoni and effectively promote Mike Woodson as the head coach? Or would you ride out this season than fire after?

    Another question is, if we make the playoffs do you fire Dantoni? Or extend him for a year, giving him a full training camp with the Knicks.

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    I wouldn't fire him mid-season if Mike Woodson is his replacement. Hasn't it been said that Woodson made the Hawks' offense stagnant like their current coach?

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    Let him stay the season unless we hit another 9 out of 10 losses.

    Depends on our playoff success and if Phil Jackson is available.

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    Originally Posted by skisloper
    Let him stay the season unless we hit another 9 out of 10 losses.

    Depends on our playoff success and if Phil Jackson is available.
    Co-sign. Unless he manages to not get this team to .500 soon, no excuses for him now, he's got stars, a big man, a PG.

    Even if he manages to get to the playoffs, I still think he's been exposed as a coach, I think what Marbury said about him that he has no system, he just let's guys play is true. Lin comes in and totally turns around the teams fortunes tells me a chimp could do what D'Antoni does. Now do what JVG did when he was here and make the talent he had a winning team, now that's coaching.

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    Originally Posted by tiger0330
    Co-sign. Unless he manages to not get this team to .500 soon, no excuses for him now, he's got stars, a big man, a PG.

    Even if he manages to get to the playoffs, I still think he's been exposed as a coach, I think what Marbury said about him that he has no system, he just let's guys play is true. Lin comes in and totally turns around the teams fortunes tells me a chimp could do what D'Antoni does. Now do what JVG did when he was here and make the talent he had a winning team, now that's coaching.
    Wasn't it coaching then, last year, pre-Melo, when we were a playoff team on the rise, and exceeding the expectations of almost all fans (KO members included), and professional NBA analysts?

    Also, wouldn't taking an undrafted, unheralded, bounced around raw PG and turn him into a winning, starting PG for the NYK (in about a month's time from being picked off waivers), qualify as taking the talent you have and making it "winning"?

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    if the team reverts to losing 10 of 12, he MUST be fired, plain and simple

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    Originally Posted by iSaYughh
    Also, wouldn't taking an undrafted, unheralded, bounced around raw PG and turn him into a winning, starting PG for the NYK (in about a month's time from being picked off waivers), qualify as taking the talent you have and making it "winning"?
    You can't be serious!! JLin first joined the team when? How many practices has he been to, D'Antoni said himself that his 3PGs got most of the reps and Lin being 4th on the depth chart didn't get much practice time, D'Antoni gets zero credit for his development. And as far as him playing it took a .300 record to motivate D'Ants to play him, no as far as I'm concerned him playing JLin is just an example of massive luck when it comes to his coaching career.

    The scouts and maybe D'Antoni if he had anything to do with picking him up get credit for him being a Knick, that's all the credit I am giving to Pringles.

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    Originally Posted by tiger0330
    You can't be serious!! JLin first joined the team when? How many practices has he been to, D'Antoni said himself that his 3PGs got most of the reps and Lin being 4th on the depth chart didn't get much practice time, D'Antoni gets zero credit for his development. And as far as him playing it took a .300 record to motivate D'Ants to play him, no as far as I'm concerned him playing JLin is just an example of massive luck when it comes to his coaching career.

    The scouts and maybe D'Antoni if he had anything to do with picking him up get credit for him being a Knick, that's all the credit I am giving to Pringles.
    " Massive luck "...............did a Jeanie grant him wishes ?
    U make your luck.

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    Originally Posted by iSaYughh
    Wasn't it coaching then, last year, pre-Melo, when we were a playoff team on the rise, and exceeding the expectations of almost all fans (KO members included), and professional NBA analysts?

    Also, wouldn't taking an undrafted, unheralded, bounced around raw PG and turn him into a winning, starting PG for the NYK (in about a month's time from being picked off waivers), qualify as taking the talent you have and making it "winning"?
    What a joke. d`Antoni has turned Lin into a winning, starting PG. That`s hilarious.

    D`Antoni had this guy permanently benched whilst Douglas was shooting air every night and turning over more basketballs than McDonalds flip burgers. Lin was sent to the D-League and was fourth choice. Seriously, do you think that Jeremy Lin has suddenly found his talent in the last ten days which made D`antoni suddenly play him? Of course not, Lin`s talent has been there all along and D`Antoni just did what he always does, pick his players and just stick to playing them come what may.

    You can see how D`Antoni didn`t want to play him from the game against the Celtics when Lin gave us good first half minutes then got benched for the whole of the second half. Only because Lin played so well was D`antoni forced to play him in the last couple of games. If Lin is capable of doing this now then he was capable of doing it when he was sitting on the end of the bench watching Douglas, Shumpert and Bibby doing nothing.

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    If D'antoni gets us to even the second round of the playoffs and Phil Jackson isn't available, then he should stay. I think we're a force to be reckoned with now.

    But realistically, you take Phil Jackson whenever possible.

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    Originally Posted by Scipio
    What a joke. d`Antoni has turned Lin into a winning, starting PG. That`s hilarious.

    D`Antoni had this guy permanently benched whilst Douglas was shooting air every night and turning over more basketballs than McDonalds flip burgers. Lin was sent to the D-League and was fourth choice. Seriously, do you think that Jeremy Lin has suddenly found his talent in the last ten days which made D`antoni suddenly play him? Of course not, Lin`s talent has been there all along and D`Antoni just did what he always does, pick his players and just stick to playing them come what may.

    You can see how D`Antoni didn`t want to play him from the game against the Celtics when Lin gave us good first half minutes then got benched for the whole of the second half. Only because Lin played so well was D`antoni forced to play him in the last couple of games. If Lin is capable of doing this now then he was capable of doing it when he was sitting on the end of the bench watching Douglas, Shumpert and Bibby doing nothing.

    Stop saying he gave us first good half minutes in the Celtics game. he turned the ball over immediately and fouled Ray allen? (i think) or someone at the 3 point line. That's not good minutes.

    D'antoni let Lin play because he was out of options and out of hope entirely. That's why he let Lin play. When Lin had that opportunity, he went berserk. No one expected it at all. Stop acting like Lin was a proven player who D'Antoni forced to the bench, are you kidding me? We are all victims to thinking Lin was trash. He amazed us all. That's why he's making headlines.

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    Originally Posted by iSaYughh
    Wasn't it coaching then, last year, pre-Melo, when we were a playoff team on the rise, and exceeding the expectations of almost all fans (KO members included), and professional NBA analysts?

    Also, wouldn't taking an undrafted, unheralded, bounced around raw PG and turn him into a winning, starting PG for the NYK (in about a month's time from being picked off waivers), qualify as taking the talent you have and making it "winning"?
    Is your perception reality?

    Last year pre-melo we were barely a .500 team. We were still next to last in defense and horrible on the boards.

    Felton struggled too. Injuries mounted due to overplay. Many players were DNP'D For no good reason at all.

    And akin to Lin (lol that rhymed), Mozgov too only got minutes by default.

    So we need to stop, reassess this comparison to last year, and put things into perspective.

    We still couldn't close out games
    We still blew many double digit leads
    We still got swept in the PO's

    We had no contingency plans
    No answer or alternative to Fields when he slept all four games

    And really as I said to Trill...
    Making the playoffs in the east, especially after getting swept is not what it seems.

    In the past, teams with losing records made the playoffs in the East. Let's not make things out to be hunky dory. Bottom of the barrell defense is no accomplishment.

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    Originally Posted by Red
    Is your perception reality?
    You're making this too complicated, Red. I was just speaking to a very simple, but important truth:

    our record last year (**and playoff performance) exceeded the expectations of the vast majority of professional basketball analysts, and KO members -- particularly, those KO members who feel D'antoni is a poor coach.

    That isn't my perception; it is reality.

    However you choose to interpret that reality, after the fact, and play that into a current critique of MDA is your call.

    But facts are facts. I don't think you want to accept that; if you legit don't believe it, then I'll be more than happy to dig up what people said in the official season prediction/analysis threads on here, and scour for some of many pro analyst opinions.

    **I know you'll bring up "SWEEP SWEEP SWEEP", but I'm not afraid to mention the playoffs, too, though I could have just discussed the reg season. The sweep is besides the point, insofar as we were never expected to, nor in a position based off of talent, to beat BOS. What is important and telling is that we competed as viciously with BOS for the first two games as we did, and they had to rely upon such small margins of good fortune and good ref calls, which speaks to the preparedness and edge we cultivated during the regular season to play better as a whole than the sum of our parts would indicate.

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    Damn.....it's real bad when u can not convince a few Dantoni-fans that
    u FIRE a clueless-headcoach with so many coaching tools missing ASAP.

    Phoenix FIRED Dantoni....why? he made the postseason 4 out of 5 seasons?

    how many headcoaches in the NBA has been labled as an offensive-headcoach?

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    Originally Posted by Oakman88
    Here is a question for everyone. With the 3 game streak we have just won, the apparent team chemistry and the emergence of J Lin. Would everyone still take the chance and fire Dantoni and effectively promote Mike Woodson as the head coach? Or would you ride out this season than fire after?

    Another question is, if we make the playoffs do you fire Dantoni? Or extend him for a year, giving him a full training camp with the Knicks.
    Why is your sig so weird lmao

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