Classless? Because he didn't shake Evra's hand? Brilliant. Keep being told what to think by the media.
Immature? He actually shows a maturity on the pitch beyond his years.
Cheat? In what way is he a cheat?
Diving? He's no more of a diver than any of the other top players in the world.
You can try and make this about "soccer" and Liverpool if you want, it just shows you're not doing well enough with your basketball argument.
I also love the irony of talking about maturity then having a pop at me for not knowing what a particular internet meme is.
I said because Suarez as a joke and instead of responding to my post re basketball you chose to respond to that instead, you're the one who has totally ignored my basketball related points.
About Suarez I'll not derail this thread any further, he apologized for a reason. Because he was wrong. Simple.
As per usual the media are making far too much of it.
Answer me this, what was worse Melo throwing punches or Suarez not shaking hands?
Yeah not quite so simple when I can turn it round like that is it.
Ok since you don't want to leave it alone lets just break it down simple shall we?
LUIS SUAREZ IS NOT RACIST?
SUAREZ IS NOT A CHEAT?In the 62nd minute, Suárez wins a corner and jogs into the United area, where he is being marked by Evra. The two players then become involved in a heated argument, in Spanish:
PE: ****ing hell, why did you kick me?
LS: Because you’re black.
PE: Say it to me again, I’m going to kick you.
LS: I don’t speak to blacks.
PE: OK, now I think I’m going to punch you.
LS: OK, blackie, blackie, blackie.
As Suárez is speaking, he pinches Evra’s left forearm repeatedly. As referee Andre Marriner stops play, Suárez uses the term “negro” to Evra again, prompting an angry reaction from Evra, who tells Marriner he has been racially abused.
Marriner tries to calm the situation, but as the players walk away, Suárez puts his hand on the back of Evra’s head and the defender knocks his arm away.
Marriner intervenes again; Evra says he does not want Suárez to touch him, prompting the Uruguayan to say: “Why, black?”
I must have missed the memo where he was cleared to play as GK in the World Cup...
SUAREZ DOES NOT DIVE MUCH MORE THAN OTHER PLAYERS?
SUAREZ SHOWS MATURITY ON THE PITCH?
Why don't we ask the guy he headbutted/bit on the chest?
Or how Scott Parker feels after Suarez returns from his 8 match ban?
SUAREZ IS A CLASSY PLAYER?!?!
Yes Suarez was wrong. Whether or not it was wrong not to shake his hand is immaterial. Suarez told the Liverpool management that he would shake Evra's hand then refused to do so when the game came. He lied and let down his team. He got his manager involved in the dispute because Kenny though Suarez would shake his hand and thus lashed out at a reporter.The handshake...or lack of
Suarez opting not to shake Evra's hand as the players conducted their traditional pre-match greeting when Liverpool travelled to Old Trafford - the Uruguayan's first start since serving an eight-match ban.
The fall out
Suarez's actions prompted Sir Alex Ferguson to brand Suarez a “disgrace to Liverpool” before urging the club to “get rid” of him. After the match, Kenny Dalglish claimed he “didn’t know” Suárez had refused Evra’s handshake before becoming embroiled in a feud with Sky Sports presenter Geoff Shreeves.
Suarez issued an apology for his "mistake" in not shaking Evra's hand. His statement was followed by Liverpool managing director Ian Ayre saying the club was misled by Suarez and criticised the Uruguayan for failing to shake the hand of Evra.
Dalglish then said sorry for his conduct on TV before Manchester United published a statement on their site accepting Liverpool's apology.
Riddle me this Batman, if Suarez didn't racially abuse Patrice Evra then why did Liverpool not appeal his ban? Because he did, and everybody knows it, except Liverpool supporters
Now take your hands off the keyboard before you get hurt.
Stop living in the now when the game slows down and Mia and Chi elite defenses key in on Lin, Smith, and Batum their not gonna be able to produce you need stars simple as that.
It's all great in theory having this great team work basketball but there's a reason why every champion in the last 30+ years have star power.
Anyone else on board?
No excuses now right?
Coach, scorers, bench, depth, defense, vets, size, variability, home crowd, hunger
Also, we would be severely screwed without Chandler.
1st we need a guard
Then we need a guard that's competent which comes with time, familiarity, and natural skill.
There's only half the season left.
By adding Davis and JR mid-season, there's little time left. At the least BD has practiced and should be familiar with the system. If not, then its yet another excuse why we can't win. And I for one am excused out.
I no longer want the "perfect" player to be successful because the odds (as we've seen) are extremely low. Rather at this point we need competent viable options...
Don't we have enough even without BD?
But, the way I see it, everyone needs a good plan B to backup the Plan A.
Our plan A looks great, but our Plan B still is not there. Specifically, our team would severely suffer if Lin or Chandler were not able to do their thing, and we need to cover that gap.
If we stay healthy, and no bull**** happens with injuries....yes. By the time playoffs start, I'd expect us to match up pretty evenly against the NBA's upper crust, and be in every series.
With D'antoni at the helm, I'd expect a top3 offense at the minimum, and I think our already respectable D will only continue to improve.
You're being a little ridiculous, though, with the "anybody else in? no more excuses, right?", if your're inferring we are somehow *favorites* to win the title, or it's some manifest destiny.
Just because we can win, or that we "should" win (ie, we are the odds on favorite...which we won't be, but whatever), your likelihood of actually winning is still *never* far above 50%, even if you are the best team in the NBA.
ie, even if we were clearly the best team in the NBA going into the playoffs, not winning a title wouldn't reflect true failure, or missing out on expectations.
If we looked like **** and got trounced, it's a different story; but that's a more qualitative discussion. Our playoff series vs the Celtics last yr is actually a really good model of the contrast between qualitative and quantitative judgements of success and fail, and team performance.
Using someone's skin colour in order to insult that person is racist in whatever country. The only difference is that whereas in the U.K racism has become a covert practice (I'm not racist, but...) in countries like Uruguay it is still overtly embedded in society. It's still racism and Suarez is a dick. Decent footballer but still a dick. Let's not forget Di Cannio was a fascist; still a great footballer despite being an idiot. Liverpool fans have taken YNWA one step too far.