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    Question Mark When everyone is healthy....

    What should the rotation be?

    We have to assume that by all star break Baron Davis and Josh Harrelson will be healthy.

    The Knicks are also in the lead to get J.R Smith since they can offer him 2.5 million this year. Smith has a Yankee tattoo on his neck so he is def thinking of NY.

    I think once everyone comes back, some moves will be made such as Bibby getting cut and Jerome Jordan going back to the D League being replaced by Harrelson. Douglas might get traded since Mike D has been benching him now that Lin is legit and a true PG. Walker is going to be traded, he has struggled since Lin has emerged, ironically. Walker might be moved in a trade with Douglas. Especially if Smith is signed, say good bye to Walker.

    So here is my lineup and bench

    Lin
    Fields
    Melo
    Amare
    Chandler

    Bench: Davis, Novak, Shumpert, Smith?, Harrellson, Jeffries (spot minutes)

    Bench lineup:

    Davis
    Smith
    Shumpert
    Novak
    Harrellson/Jeffries

    Baring injury, we have a solid team with depth come playoff time. Dare I say it, but this is a championship team if we have Lin and Davis healthy feeding guys.

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    Here is what I would like....

    Sign J.R. Smith
    Trade Bill Walker

    C- Tyson
    PF- STAT
    SF- Melo
    SG- Fields
    PG- Lin

    Bench:
    J.R. Smith
    Shumpert
    Baron
    Novak
    Jeffries
    Jorts
    Douglas

    Inactives:
    Bibby
    Balkman

    D-League:
    Jordan

    If we could swap Douglas and Balkman for another strong bench player that would be ideal too. A crafty 11/12th man veteran??

    I think a 2nd pairing lineup of Jeffries-Jorts-Smith (He can play SF)- Shump- Davis can be very, very lethal.

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    I'm thinking about a rotation like this:

    Lin -----------30
    Fields --------26
    Melo ---------36
    Amare --------34
    Chandler ------32
    Davis ---------18
    Smith ---------17
    Shumpert -----17
    Novak ---------8
    Harrellson ------8
    Jeffries --------14

    This is supposing Davis can give us 18 minutes a night, whis is a great if, since he might end up giving us zero. If he plays like he used to, he might even be the starter, so who knows.
    Somehow we need to get Bibby and/or Douglas to give us productive minutes. Honestly I don't understand how come Bibby is so burnt that he can not even play 6 minutes a night on a good level. TD can play whatever he wants when/if he gets his level back, which I'm assuming he won't.

    Also keep in mind that the big's minutes depend mostly on the fouls during the game, so they are very variable.

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    Assuming the Knicks land JR

    Starters
    Lin
    Fields
    Melo
    Amare
    Chandler

    Bench
    Davis
    JR
    Shumpert
    Jeffries
    Jorts
    Novak

    Thats a deep team that has at least one player for like every role you need to win.

    I'd like to see a 3 guard lineup of Davis, JR, and Shump with Shump guarding the other teams 6th man whether its a 1,2 or 3. You have JR going off and Baron Davis keep things under control and finding all the other role players in their spots

    This team has mad potential I'm not even gonna lie when competely healthy and if Smith signs I like the Knicks chances over even my Lakers

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    Originally Posted by Paul1355
    What should the rotation be?

    We have to assume that by all star break Baron Davis and Josh Harrelson will be healthy.

    The Knicks are also in the lead to get J.R Smith since they can offer him 2.5 million this year. Smith has a Yankee tattoo on his neck so he is def thinking of NY.

    I think once everyone comes back, some moves will be made such as Bibby getting cut and Jerome Jordan going back to the D League being replaced by Harrelson. Douglas might get traded since Mike D has been benching him now that Lin is legit and a true PG. Walker is going to be traded, he has struggled since Lin has emerged, ironically. Walker might be moved in a trade with Douglas. Especially if Smith is signed, say good bye to Walker.

    So here is my lineup and bench

    Lin
    Fields
    Melo
    Amare
    Chandler

    Bench: Davis, Novak, Shumpert, Smith?, Harrellson, Jeffries (spot minutes)

    Bench lineup:

    Davis
    Smith
    Shumpert
    Novak
    Harrellson/Jeffries

    Baring injury, we have a solid team with depth come playoff time. Dare I say it, but this is a championship team if we have Lin and Davis healthy feeding guys.

    Your right on the money with what the rotation SHOULD look like, but knowing dantoni this is what it wont look like lol.

    toney douglas value is beyond low i dont know what we can get for him probably nothing.

    If your going to trade TD you have to package him around more than walker

    After giving this much thought i cant think of one team in the NBA who would want or need TD.

    What are you getting for TD? Matt carroll if your lucky lol

    hell

    Knicks recieve : boris diaw, matt caroll

    Bobcats receive: Td, Jerome, Walker, Bibby


    fair enough trash exchange

    your new knicks

    Lin/baron
    Fields/Jr/Carroll
    Melo/shump/novak
    Stat/Jorts/Diaw
    Chandler/jeffries

    in other news

    CHRIS PAUL IS TRYING TO RECRUIT JR SMITH

    LAKERS- ARE LOOKING AT ALLEN IVERSON AS A OPTION
    Last edited by NYk_Reloaded718; Feb 12, 2012 at 20:18.

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    Shump & Fields has already proved they can handle the 48 minute SG spot in
    the rotation for the remainder of this season....signing SG-J.R. Smith now could
    do more damage than good.

    The Firing of headcoach Dantoni would do the Knicks more good now (after
    the 5 game winning-streak) there was no reason why C-Jerome Jordan & SF-
    Balkman did not receive any playingtime at the end of a back to back of 4-
    games in 6 nights of traveling.

    The return of the undefensive Knicks players (PG-Davis, SF-Melo, PF-Stat,
    PF-Jorts) should be under a new system design for defense-first....they may
    be high profile players but....they need a lot of practice on motion-movement
    on offense annnd defense in order to prevent the team from returning to a
    non-movement stagnant team.

    Real Talk....the Knicks have to take Stat or Melo out of the starting lineup....
    Red-Flag....Havoc....WTF is Kiyaman talking about....so what they dont co-exist,
    or play defense, or boxout, or pick n screen for their teammates, they are
    NBA superstars earning $20M per....they both belong in the starting lineup.

    The Knicks only used a 7+ man rotation in the 5 game winning-streak.
    That is not a healthy sign when the 7+ man rotation did not show us a
    decent backup for C-Tyson Chandler & PG-Lin. When Baron Davis is healthy
    will he come off the bench to backup PG-Jeremy Lin? to get familiar with
    teammates on the court vs NBA competition?
    However, the 5-game 7+ man-rotation did give us a decent backup for SG-
    Fields (in Shump), SF-Melo (in Novak), and PF-Stat (in Jefferies), but it gave
    us nothing in a backup for our center Tyson Chandler and our D.League
    superstar PG-Jeremy Lin....it makes u think of the 2004-7 Phoenix Suns never
    having a decent backup for PG-Nash, and never having a center in the lineup
    with PF-Stat.

    Jefferies & Novak vs Jorts playingtime....

    Jefferies team-help-defense has been a huge factor in guiding teammates
    on the defensive-end to not just focus on man to man defense.
    I been mentioning for years Jefferies is best as a 2nd half player.
    Novak has been more focus on screening/picking, running to the 3-ball line
    behind a pick to catch n shoot, plus his steady-movement is really best at
    the SF position.
    Stat needs a backup that didnt pickup bad habits like Jorts non-movement,
    poor decision making by standing on the 3-ball line when he should be
    screening/picking/drawing small defenders into the paint. Jorts has picked up
    way to many bad habits as a bigman by not attacking the glass, and not
    boxing-out of the paint does not look good for his career as a 2nd round pick.

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    If they get JR Smith, I think the starting lineup should look like this:

    Lin
    Smith
    Anthony
    Stoudemire
    Chandler

    The biggest offensive problem after ball movement this year has been the lack of spacing for Anthony and Stoudemire to make their moves. We need someone who can spread the floor and shoot threes while they are in the lineup. I'm not as high on Fields as I was last year - I think he is smart but not particularly athletic or talented. Shump has more potential, and should get big minutes off the bench. I might even look into trading fields with TD and Walker, and trying to get someone who can create their own shot to come off the bench - a poor man's jamal crawford, basically.

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    I havent seen one that looks good yet...

    PG-Lin
    SG-Fields
    SF-Melo
    PF-Harrelson
    C-Chandler

    Bench: Shumpert, Davis, Novak, Jeffries

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    Originally Posted by Almost_famous718
    Your right on the money with what the rotation SHOULD look like, but knowing dantoni this is what it wont look like lol.

    toney douglas value is beyond low i dont know what we can get for him probably nothing.

    If your going to trade TD you have to package him around more than walker

    After giving this much thought i cant think of one team in the NBA who would want or need TD.

    What are you getting for TD? Matt carroll if your lucky lol

    hell

    Knicks recieve : boris diaw, matt caroll

    Bobcats receive: Td, Jerome, Walker, Bibby

    fair enough trash exchange

    your new knicks

    Lin/baron
    Fields/Jr/Carroll
    Melo/shump/novak
    Stat/Jorts/Diaw
    Chandler/jeffries

    in other news

    CHRIS PAUL IS TRYING TO RECRUIT JR SMITH

    LAKERS- ARE LOOKING AT ALLEN IVERSON AS A OPTION

    Hypothetically....IF the Knicks want to trade Walker & TD it will have to be
    a 3 team trade which includes Amare....which is not going to happen.

    The Knicks having C-Tyson Chandler, SF-Melo, and PG-Lin in the starting
    lineup, they only need a complimentary PF-David Lee and a top SG-Ellis that
    will take the double-team away from Melo.
    A bench of a 2nd-unit: Shump, Fields, Novak, Jeff, Jordan, and a new
    headcoach in Mike Woodson would make the Knicks a 1 to 3 seeded team in the East this season.

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    Bdiddy might play after all star weekend!!

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    Originally Posted by KingStarbury3
    I havent seen one that looks good yet...

    PG-Lin
    SG-Fields
    SF-Melo
    PF-Harrelson
    C-Chandler

    Bench: Shumpert, Davis, Novak, Jeffries
    where amare at yo?

    pg- Lin
    sg - Fields

    these two must start together for chemestry reasons

    sf - melo
    pf - Amare
    C - Chandler

    our front court needs to learn how to gel and become one cohesive unit, they they must play together

    bench

    Davis
    Smith
    Shump
    Jefferies
    Jorts

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    Originally Posted by Toons
    where amare at yo?

    pg- Lin
    sg - Fields

    these two must start together for chemestry reasons

    sf - melo
    pf - Amare
    C - Chandler

    our front court needs to learn how to gel and become one cohesive unit, they they must play together

    bench

    Davis
    Smith
    Shump
    Jefferies
    Jorts
    that bench would crush half the benches in the NBA

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    Originally Posted by Almost_famous718
    that bench would crush half the NBA
    fixed that for you

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    Originally Posted by amazinz5
    fixed that for you
    lol i started to put that, but ehh i still want to see what baron does first

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    Originally Posted by Almost_famous718
    lol i started to put that, but ehh i still want to see what baron does first
    i laugh when people include him in their roster predictions. and thats coming from an optimist. i don't think we'll be very strong at pg after lin but in an ideal world baron kills it and our bench could beat the wizards lol.

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