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    Default Mike D'Antoni's influence on our resurgence

    I've been one to bash MDA pretty heavily last year and this year. I was happy to have him coaching from 08-10 especially since his brand of coaching adds value to some players and potentially got us more in return for them. However the flip side to that was us losing good players for next to nothing because of his infamous doghouse. After seeing him last year I was done with him, our total lack of defensive effort and the same old MDA mistakes had me thinking we desperately needed a different approach. Right now I might be willing to change my tune though.

    The Knicks overall this season have played great defense. In part this is down to Tyson Chandler who obviously brings a solid defensive presence, the addition of Shumpert who is amongst the league leaders in steals, and you can't write off Mike Woodson's influence.

    However we can certainly attribute the amazing play of Jared Jefferies somewhat to Mike since most other coaches in the league would probably not even play JJ. We've also seen an amazing increase in Landry Fields defensive effectiveness, finally putting his physical tools to great use at the defensive end.

    Our offense clearly has gone from awful to amazing mostly due to Jeremy Lin but I'm not writing off MDA here either. The kind of offensive plays we are running, the floor spacing, the way Tyson is running the floor and our guards getting up court in seconds is in a big way down to the way Mike likes to play the game and also how he conditions his players. The fact we had enough physical energy to stick it out and eventually pull out a win in MIN has to be partly due to the amazing fitness of our players from running running running in practice every day.

    I also like the way our coaching staff is dealing with our players. Tyson Chandler adding a 10-12 footer would be golden. In fact Tyson has been making shots you'd never see him attempting a year ago, hooks and layups from 5-8 ft away. Jeremy Lin in the space of a week went from being a sketchy jump shooter to being able to knock down clutch 3's in big games. Shumperts jump shot has come a long way this season. And I know people have bashed MDA for getting Jorts to shoot 3's but actually making the defense respect him from range makes him an even more deadly player inside where he is already prolific.

    Lastly even his game management has come along leaps and bounds during our win streak. He's rotating as best as possible with the personnel we have available (with the exception of Balkman who quite frankly has been an NBA bench warmer his entire life and a couple of good preseason games doesn't change that). Even in the MIN game where we were not playing from a winning position he got Lin plenty of rest at the start of the 3rd and 4th quarters.

    He has been taking TO's when we need them and not jumping the gun when we don't. In the MIN game Clyde said it best that "the Knicks don't play well out of time outs" which is why we let them go on that potential final possession.

    It's going to be interesting to see how our team fits together and if Mike will keep a 10+ man rotation with the return of Melo and Stat but I actually believe he will.

    Someday soon I might even be willing to say MDA is a good coach again!

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    I agree it seems like ever since the emergence of Lin Mike has been coaching way better putting out good lineups, timely TO's, maximizing all these role players potentials.

    Once this team is fully healthy it's gonna be interesting seeing if he can continue with a 10+ man rotation I hope he does it's a good look and can give the stars more rest.

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    Originally Posted by smokes
    Lastly even his game management has come along leaps and bounds during our win streak. He's rotating as best as possible with the personnel we have available (with the exception of Balkman who quite frankly has been an NBA bench warmer his entire life and a couple of good preseason games doesn't change that). Even in the MIN game where we were not playing from a winning position he got Lin plenty of rest at the start of the 3rd and 4th quarters.
    Unless you're talking about MDAs use of timeouts in the 2nd half Lin didnt get a rest. He played the entire second half against Minny...

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    I've always been Pro MDA.

    With a good PG, we're starting to see positive results with his system.. imagine better replacements instead of Bibby Douglas Walker Balkman, who haven't been contributing that much since we exploded this week.. and we have a championship calibre team.

    I believe MDA can take us all the way.

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    I really, really like that play drawn up for Novak in the timberwolves game to tie the game. I respect D'antoni for that.

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    Originally Posted by c0leworld
    I really, really like that play drawn up for Novak in the timberwolves game to tie the game. I respect D'antoni for that.
    They've been running that play for a few games now. Noval hit on the same play against LA...

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    Originally Posted by c0leworld
    I really, really like that play drawn up for Novak in the timberwolves game to tie the game. I respect D'antoni for that.
    Yeah and you have to give Lin and the rest of the guys a lot of credit for making the play.

    I also loved those 2 MIN timeouts where all the guys were stepping up you could see Tyson and JJ saying who got who and JJ was annoyed at himself for not letting Love take that off balance 3.

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    Originally Posted by Clyde & The Pearl
    Unless you're talking about MDAs use of timeouts in the 2nd half Lin didnt get a rest. He played the entire second half against Minny...
    You might be right about that, I could be confusing it with the Lakers game or some other part of the same game, was working so not watching too closely.

    Still if that's the only counter you have to that entire post then I'll take it. You can see why we needed Lin for the majority of that game.

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    Originally Posted by Clyde & The Pearl
    Unless you're talking about MDAs use of timeouts in the 2nd half Lin didnt get a rest. He played the entire second half against Minny...
    No, he didn't.

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    Originally Posted by Crazy⑧s
    No, he didn't.

    Lin was sent to the bench with 2:28 left in the first quarter and returned with 7:20 left in the second quarter. He didnt get another rest the entire second half...

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    Originally Posted by Clyde & The Pearl

    Lin was sent to the bench with 2:28 left in the first quarter and returned with 7:20 left in the second quarter. He didnt get another rest the entire second half...
    Sorry, I think you're right.

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    Originally Posted by Crazy⑧s
    Sorry, I think you're right.
    No prob at all. I remember it well because my son and I were yelling at the TV to get him some rest...

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    Originally Posted by Clyde & The Pearl
    Unless you're talking about MDAs use of timeouts in the 2nd half Lin didnt get a rest. He played the entire second half against Minny...
    lin played 39 mins, rubio played 36....
    why is everyone bitching about lin's time?

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    Originally Posted by Toons
    lin played 39 mins, rubio played 36....
    why is everyone bitching about lin's time?

    I'm complaining because he was dead tired and anyone with a brain could see it effected his play. He was so spent that Rubio blocked his shot on a layup because he had nothing left to get off the ground.

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    We'll see how well Chandler is implemented into the offense once Amare comes back. That will be a big test. Amare is not going to be happy unless he has the majority of those pick and rolls.

    If you hear the postgame interviews, Jeremy kept telling D'antoni that he was good and could stay in the game. D'Antoni joked that he wouldn't listen to Lin as much anymore and probably rest him more.

    Besides... the way TD and Bibby have been playing? The game was way too close to let them drag our team down. If you noticed, Lin let Shump and others initiate the offense and kind of acted as a decoy to get some rest in the 4th quarter. That let him conserve some energy and save some juice for defense. He's a smart guy. He'll be okay.

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