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    Default Official Support Amar'e Stoudemire Thread


    I want to make this thread to try to get people to stop hatin' on the big dog STATue right now.

    I understand why people are all over this guy. Yes he makes 20 million a year from us, yes he sucks at defending, and yea he's had a sub-par season so far.

    However, we are not gonna trade Amarknee and here's why:

    * Uninsured contract
    * Cannot trade him to a rival
    * Won't get fair value
    * Won't get a good big in return (which we would need)

    There is no point hoping for us to trade him because it will not happen. Definitely not this season. So what's the point in pouring negativity on this guy? For better or worse we are stuck with him. I have full faith in him to return to being a dominant offensive PF. Defensively who knows, but I feel at least as long as he can put the effort in he can only get better playing alongside defensive guru's like Tyson Chandler and Jeffries.

    Stoudemire has done so many things for this franchise in such a short time. Regardless of whether he did it for the money or whatever, he brought us back to relevancy which has been the catalyst for us being in the position we are in today.

    He dragged us through most of last season and it was down to him we went to the playoffs at all. NINE in a row 30+ point performances to bring us back Jeremy Lin style from a piss poor record. He is a big part of the reason Carmelo Anthony came to NY and thus the reason Tyson Chandler came to NY.

    He's played below his standards this season but he is bringing it together bit by bit.

    His stats have been a bit off, he's averaging 18/8/1 on 45% shooting, not great by his standards.

    However the last 10 games he's up to nearly 20/9/1 with 48.5% shooting. Gradually things are on the up, as he gels with Lin more his FG% should go back to normal. PPG is quite negligible if he's putting up 20+, depending how Lin, Anthony, Smith, Chandler are scoring it's more than enough.

    There are a few things I'd love to see from STAT. One to regain that first step he had last year to get by his defender when he's in close and to get up for those blocks. Also he needs to commit to screening a lot more, not only for the PNR with Lin, but when Melo returns, STAT and Tyson can make his life 100x easier setting picks for him so he can get to his sweet spots and catch and shoot. Imagine Melo, who has to put almost no energy into offense due to solid play from Lin and his bigs. Thus having energy to play defense. Sweet sweet music!

    Lin
    Fields
    Melo
    Healthy Productive STAT
    Chandler

    Smith
    Shumpert
    Jefferies
    Novak
    Baron
    Jorts
    Walker

    That is a championship calibre team no doubt with STAT being a major cog. We can't just write off one of the major pieces of the puzzle. We need to get where KingStarbury would love to be, behind this guy.
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    Yes- if Stat was playing like he did last year we would be a serious threat. Unfortunately he is not.

    I think he liked being the center of attention. Now he's not even the second person in the spot light. More like the fourth...

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    Originally Posted by Knicks32
    Yes- if Stat was playing like he did last year we would be a serious threat. Unfortunately he is not.

    I think he liked being the center of attention. Now he's not even the second person in the spot light. More like the fourth...
    He can play a much lesser role than last year and still be an enormous part of our success.

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    Nice thread, smokes.

    I agree entirely, but I can't help but cuss his ass with some of the defensive fumbles he's been responsible for in the last few games. All in all, I think he's doing pretty well, and will continue to improve on that.

    Naturally I'm unaware of what's been said at practice/in the locker room, but if STAT wants the attention he clearly craves for his efforts, he's going to have to restructure a little.

    Rebound, block some shots, shut down opponents.

    If we can get more production out of those 3 categories, he'll be closer to deserving that enormous pay cheque.

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    Does anyone else think, that the 20lbs, he put on, has effected his lift.He might need to lose some of that, because iv'e never seen him getting his shot blocked like this.Smoke i like this thread, iv'e been supporting STAT all year, he'll come around.

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    I Support Stat

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    Originally Posted by Toons
    I Support Stat
    That sig is classic.

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    WE HAVE A BEAST IN STAT,

    This is a guy who brought basketball back to MSG by himself, well with the help of Raymond Felton. I'm tired of people going at STAT for his performance ever since Melo came in. Its pretty obvious why the man cant drop 40 anymore. WE DID NOT HAVE A TRUE PICK AND ROLL PG.I mean is it not kinda weird that his STATS (lol) went down ever since we let go of Felton? But now with Lin there slowly going back up? I mean our genius coach before Linsanity was feeding the ball to Amare by the 3 point line. Show me one time where Amare was known for creating his own shot. We signed him knowing he cant create his own shot and that hes a pick and roll pf, REASON we picked up Felton.

    Now we have Lin, a true PG. So now we can officially judge STAT.




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    Why doesn't he play like Jefferies and Tyson? With heart, with passion & fire. He did that last year. Where did his Knicks heart go? Did it leave together with his game? Maybe he doesn't wanna play on the big stage anymore.

    I will love him - when he love me - If he loved me - he would play hard for me. He doesn't....

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    Originally Posted by LeFlume
    Why doesn't he play like Jefferies and Tyson? With heart, with passion & fire. He did that last year. Where did his Knicks heart go? Did it leave together with his game? Maybe he doesn't wanna play on the big stage anymore.
    Idk could be because he was asked to start making 3 pointers and he simply just could not do that. Also no matter who you are being the number 1 option and then being what the 3rd now takes a emotional toll on your ego. Like I said now with Lin if Stat still plays like a scrub then we can start with the hate.

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    Originally Posted by smokes
    * Uninsured contract
    * Cannot trade him to a rival
    * Won't get fair value
    * Won't get a good big in return (which we would need)
    1. More reason to trade his bum ass
    2. Fine, we'll find a non rival team to trade him to. If it comes down to it we should buy him out
    3. It would be another team that wouldnt get fair value, if all we got for Stat was a d leaguer, a basketball, and 2 water bottles that would be a great trade for us
    4. Its not like hes a good big, hes more like a shooting guard

    We could really use the money from his contract to re-sign Lin, JR Smith, and others

    I have no idea why Carmelo has been under so much scrutiny. Negative Stats is the problem and he needs to go

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    Originally Posted by KingStarbury3
    3. It would be another team that wouldnt get fair value, if all we got for Stat was a d leaguer, a basketball, and 2 water bottles that would be a great trade for us
    +1 and a green rep sir.




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    lets call up Philly ... i think they wanted a trade didnt they

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    If we could trade him for Josh Smith or Pau Gasol I'd do it in a heartbeat.

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    Originally Posted by KingStarbury3
    1. More reason to trade his bum ass
    2. Fine, we'll find a non rival team to trade him to. If it comes down to it we should buy him out
    3. It would be another team that wouldnt get fair value, if all we got for Stat was a d leaguer, a basketball, and 2 water bottles that would be a great trade for us
    4. Its not like hes a good big, hes more like a shooting guard

    We could really use the money from his contract to re-sign Lin, JR Smith, and others

    I have no idea why Carmelo has been under so much scrutiny. Negative Stats is the problem and he needs to go
    Yes trade all of our players when they're at their worst.....

    If we had things your way, we would have traded Fields for peanuts when he was struggling and would eventually have a team full of crap no one else wants since EVERY player struggles now and then.

    Prime example? Look at Dirk. He was playing like absolute shiit early this year until he got slowly into shape. I'm hoping the same case goes with Amare. He just lost his brother and he's definitely not in game shape physically or mentally. Hopefully he can get groove back slowly.

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