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    Default Official Support Amar'e Stoudemire Thread


    I want to make this thread to try to get people to stop hatin' on the big dog STATue right now.

    I understand why people are all over this guy. Yes he makes 20 million a year from us, yes he sucks at defending, and yea he's had a sub-par season so far.

    However, we are not gonna trade Amarknee and here's why:

    * Uninsured contract
    * Cannot trade him to a rival
    * Won't get fair value
    * Won't get a good big in return (which we would need)

    There is no point hoping for us to trade him because it will not happen. Definitely not this season. So what's the point in pouring negativity on this guy? For better or worse we are stuck with him. I have full faith in him to return to being a dominant offensive PF. Defensively who knows, but I feel at least as long as he can put the effort in he can only get better playing alongside defensive guru's like Tyson Chandler and Jeffries.

    Stoudemire has done so many things for this franchise in such a short time. Regardless of whether he did it for the money or whatever, he brought us back to relevancy which has been the catalyst for us being in the position we are in today.

    He dragged us through most of last season and it was down to him we went to the playoffs at all. NINE in a row 30+ point performances to bring us back Jeremy Lin style from a piss poor record. He is a big part of the reason Carmelo Anthony came to NY and thus the reason Tyson Chandler came to NY.

    He's played below his standards this season but he is bringing it together bit by bit.

    His stats have been a bit off, he's averaging 18/8/1 on 45% shooting, not great by his standards.

    However the last 10 games he's up to nearly 20/9/1 with 48.5% shooting. Gradually things are on the up, as he gels with Lin more his FG% should go back to normal. PPG is quite negligible if he's putting up 20+, depending how Lin, Anthony, Smith, Chandler are scoring it's more than enough.

    There are a few things I'd love to see from STAT. One to regain that first step he had last year to get by his defender when he's in close and to get up for those blocks. Also he needs to commit to screening a lot more, not only for the PNR with Lin, but when Melo returns, STAT and Tyson can make his life 100x easier setting picks for him so he can get to his sweet spots and catch and shoot. Imagine Melo, who has to put almost no energy into offense due to solid play from Lin and his bigs. Thus having energy to play defense. Sweet sweet music!

    Lin
    Fields
    Melo
    Healthy Productive STAT
    Chandler

    Smith
    Shumpert
    Jefferies
    Novak
    Baron
    Jorts
    Walker

    That is a championship calibre team no doubt with STAT being a major cog. We can't just write off one of the major pieces of the puzzle. We need to get where KingStarbury would love to be, behind this guy.
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    Yes- if Stat was playing like he did last year we would be a serious threat. Unfortunately he is not.

    I think he liked being the center of attention. Now he's not even the second person in the spot light. More like the fourth...

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    Originally Posted by Knicks32
    Yes- if Stat was playing like he did last year we would be a serious threat. Unfortunately he is not.

    I think he liked being the center of attention. Now he's not even the second person in the spot light. More like the fourth...
    He can play a much lesser role than last year and still be an enormous part of our success.

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    Nice thread, smokes.

    I agree entirely, but I can't help but cuss his ass with some of the defensive fumbles he's been responsible for in the last few games. All in all, I think he's doing pretty well, and will continue to improve on that.

    Naturally I'm unaware of what's been said at practice/in the locker room, but if STAT wants the attention he clearly craves for his efforts, he's going to have to restructure a little.

    Rebound, block some shots, shut down opponents.

    If we can get more production out of those 3 categories, he'll be closer to deserving that enormous pay cheque.

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    Does anyone else think, that the 20lbs, he put on, has effected his lift.He might need to lose some of that, because iv'e never seen him getting his shot blocked like this.Smoke i like this thread, iv'e been supporting STAT all year, he'll come around.

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    I Support Stat

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    Originally Posted by smokes
    * Uninsured contract
    * Cannot trade him to a rival
    * Won't get fair value
    * Won't get a good big in return (which we would need)
    1. More reason to trade his bum ass
    2. Fine, we'll find a non rival team to trade him to. If it comes down to it we should buy him out
    3. It would be another team that wouldnt get fair value, if all we got for Stat was a d leaguer, a basketball, and 2 water bottles that would be a great trade for us
    4. Its not like hes a good big, hes more like a shooting guard

    We could really use the money from his contract to re-sign Lin, JR Smith, and others

    I have no idea why Carmelo has been under so much scrutiny. Negative Stats is the problem and he needs to go

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    Originally Posted by KingStarbury3
    3. It would be another team that wouldnt get fair value, if all we got for Stat was a d leaguer, a basketball, and 2 water bottles that would be a great trade for us
    +1 and a green rep sir.




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    lets call up Philly ... i think they wanted a trade didnt they

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    If we could trade him for Josh Smith or Pau Gasol I'd do it in a heartbeat.

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    Originally Posted by KingStarbury3
    1. More reason to trade his bum ass
    2. Fine, we'll find a non rival team to trade him to. If it comes down to it we should buy him out
    3. It would be another team that wouldnt get fair value, if all we got for Stat was a d leaguer, a basketball, and 2 water bottles that would be a great trade for us
    4. Its not like hes a good big, hes more like a shooting guard

    We could really use the money from his contract to re-sign Lin, JR Smith, and others

    I have no idea why Carmelo has been under so much scrutiny. Negative Stats is the problem and he needs to go
    Yes trade all of our players when they're at their worst.....

    If we had things your way, we would have traded Fields for peanuts when he was struggling and would eventually have a team full of crap no one else wants since EVERY player struggles now and then.

    Prime example? Look at Dirk. He was playing like absolute shiit early this year until he got slowly into shape. I'm hoping the same case goes with Amare. He just lost his brother and he's definitely not in game shape physically or mentally. Hopefully he can get groove back slowly.

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    Originally Posted by iJoe
    Yes trade all of our players when they're at their worst.....

    If we had things your way, we would have traded Fields for peanuts when he was struggling and would eventually have a team full of crap no one else wants since EVERY player struggles now and then.

    Prime example? Look at Dirk. He was playing like absolute shiit early this year until he got slowly into shape. I'm hoping the same case goes with Amare. He just lost his brother and he's definitely not in game shape physically or mentally. Hopefully he can get groove back slowly.
    Every player does struggle now and then, but Negative Stats has been struggling since at least a week before the Melo trade last year. Can we stop making excuses for him? Why is it that some of us Knicks fans are so in love with STat? Some of you guys are truly brainwashed. You spend countless hours debating whether or not Melo will fit in while ignoring the fact that Amare is making rookie like decisions out on the court.

    As soon as you said you were "hoping" Amare's case is the same as Dirks, thats where u lost. You can hope all u want but the fact is that Dirk is a much more intelligent basketball player. I would take an out of shape Dirk over Amarknee any day. And lets not forget Amarknee was the same player before his brothers death as hes been since returning. I feel bad for Amare and his family but lets stop making excuses. I have never seen a player get a pass here in New York the way Amare has. Guys like Crawford, Marbury, Isiah, Randolph, Curry, Carmelo, Dantoni, etc. have been turned to human sacrafices by the media and New York fans. Why the **** does Amare get a pass? Somebody please tell me

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    Originally Posted by iJoe
    Yes trade all of our players when they're at their worst.....

    If we had things your way, we would have traded Fields for peanuts when he was struggling and would eventually have a team full of crap no one else wants since EVERY player struggles now and then.

    Prime example? Look at Dirk. He was playing like absolute shiit early this year until he got slowly into shape. I'm hoping the same case goes with Amare. He just lost his brother and he's definitely not in game shape physically or mentally. Hopefully he can get groove back slowly.

    Word before his bro passed it seemed to me like Amare was improving but since then he's fallen back. I think in do time he'll get back close to his normal game, and your right you have to give guys a chance it's been like 30 games, what if STAT gets back to normal then whats all the ppl hating on him gonna say.

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    That stat is back?! Hes been playing amazing in the second half of the season lets see if he can keep it up

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    He playing well on BOTH ends of the floor and getting rebounds. Definitely having a good game.

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