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Thread: Knicks @ Miami: Feb 23 @ 7:00pm. ONE OF THE BIGGEST GAMES OF THIS REPLENISHED SEASON.

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    Knicks fans in a nutshell. Always looking for someone to blame. Can't we just give Heat som cred and admit they were the better team?

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    Originally Posted by BIG APPLE SPORTS
    But we are in a tough position, if we don't improve we will get bounced in the first round up until Melo and A'mare are in their mid thirties and declining and be a what if team like the 2002 kings,something isn't working but its hard to know whether its all coaching or just the fact that our players cant mesh no matter what.
    What do you mean no matter what? Lin has been here 3 weeks. Amare got back 2 weeks ago. Melo 1 week ago. BD and JR 1 week ago.

    Talk about meshing after a month or two, this team has not been together long enough to even think about gelling properly.

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    Originally Posted by c0leworld
    Give the knicks time. We'll see a different team come playoffs. Don't take a loss to the best team in the league with over 150 games of time to mesh and sort out kinks as a terrible horrible loss.

    It sucks to lose, but its fine. its ONE game. No different than beating mavericks or the celtics or the cavaliers or w.e.
    It's not fine. We will never see the knicks in 90's again.

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    Originally Posted by smokes
    He wasn't doing bad on D tonight I thought. He needs to bring it every game though not just in the big games.

    I agree, tonight he was great on D. I know he can play on ball defense, if you watch him in cuse that one year he has all the fundementals. But even you have to agree, for him to be labeled a "great" superstar" player he has to get it done on both sides of the court.

    That block he had was sick, and he was in Lebrons chest all night.

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    Originally Posted by metrocard
    You believe you or can do a better job than D'Antoni? Our guys had an off night...they look tired. This is beyond coaching.

    What part was beyond coaching?
    The only time Lin-Sanity shouldve been on the court within the last 4 minutes of a quarter was in the final quarter.

    Lin did not deserve to be thrown out there to the wolves to be in embarrassed.....Lin deserved better treatment than that...

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    Originally Posted by LeFlume
    Knicks fans in a nutshell. Always looking for someone to blame. Can't we just give Heat som cred and admit they were the better team?
    it's true.

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    Originally Posted by LeFlume
    Knicks fans in a nutshell. Always looking for someone to blame. Can't we just give Heat som cred and admit they were the better team?
    hell no after every lost its

    1)Melo was iso'ing too much

    2)Amar'e plays no D

    3)Trade STAT/Melo for depth

    Melo and STAT were actually bright spots tonight(not real bright but they look like they're finding some common ground)

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    Originally Posted by fakeknicksfan
    It's not fine. We will never see the knicks in 90's again.
    yeah they won so many titles

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    Originally Posted by CA7
    the fact that you're bringing it up you're saying its his iso'ing that killed us which isn't true, he didn't iso every time he touched the ball, his 1st shot was off of a pick n pop he played within the system and to be honest our guys missed him 4/5 times tonight, regardless of the fact Lin iso'd more than Melo tonight and there's nothin anyone can say about that
    Please quote me where I said his ISO'ing killed us... You can't. Don't put words in other people's mouths.

    Whether it's Lin, Melo, STAT, whoever. We should not be playing one-on-one for an entire half.

    When the D is full on lockdown last 3 minutes of a playoff game, Melo can ISO to his hearts content. Other than that he should play within the offense. Again, Melo, Lin, STAT I don't care who it is.

    The point I'm trying to make is all these Melo lovers saying it's stupid that he's trying to make the right play instead of just holding the ball and shooting it, is just plain wrong.

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    Originally Posted by smokes
    What do you mean no matter what? Lin has been here 3 weeks. Amare got back 2 weeks ago. Melo 1 week ago. BD and JR 1 week ago.

    Talk about meshing after a month or two, this team has not been together long enough to even think about gelling properly.
    you see that's the thing,we are EXPECTING them to improve over time but what if we just cant? There would have to be a shake up with either the coach or players, A'mare and Melo aren't going to mesh after having 1 year together their not even close to "Meshing" with each other so what happens when lin cant mesh with either one of them? It is possible, just look at how cohesive Melo and A'mare are.

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    Originally Posted by fakeknicksfan
    It's not fine. We will never see the knicks in 90's again.
    Yeah, we won't. We'll see the 2012 knicks dominate.

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    Originally Posted by CA7
    the fact that you're bringing it up you're saying its his iso'ing that killed us which isn't true, he didn't iso every time he touched the ball, his 1st shot was off of a pick n pop he played within the system and to be honest our guys missed him 4/5 times tonight, regardless of the fact Lin iso'd more than Melo tonight and there's nothin anyone can say about that
    that's true.

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    Originally Posted by BIG APPLE SPORTS
    But we are in a tough position, if we don't improve we will get bounced in the first round up until Melo and A'mare are in their mid thirties and declining and be a what if team like the 2002 kings,something isn't working but its hard to know whether its all coaching or just the fact that our players cant mesh no matter what.

    Don't worry bro we just need time to get to know each other on the court. All championship teams need atleast a year of meshing before winning a ring (besides the 2008 celtics) But look at the Lakers, Spurs, and Mavs. Even look at teams up and coming: Bulls, and Thunder, time and experience is helping them alot.

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    Originally Posted by nyk_nyk
    Who are you trying to convince? Do you follow the NBA? The Heat have the best record in the league.
    The heat rely on their athleticism. Offensively they are very one dimensional. They lack shooters (can't think of one good shooter on their team) and depend on 3 players to win them the game (as their remaining roster is sub par)

    They are a great defensive team, but what Dallas realised during the finals is that if you block their access to the rim, they instantly become average on offence. Unless people really think James and Wade can get points any other way.

    These hyped up players do not have the brains to win trophies. They take advantage of open court play due to sketchy defence. They were denied this in the finals and demonstrated just how one dimensional they really are.

    Had this Knicks team been assembled at the same time as the Heat were, we would be on top of them.

    Again just in case you missed it. The Knicks have a better roster than the heat.

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    Originally Posted by smokes
    What do you mean no matter what? Lin has been here 3 weeks. Amare got back 2 weeks ago. Melo 1 week ago. BD and JR 1 week ago.

    Talk about meshing after a month or two, this team has not been together long enough to even think about gelling properly.

    There was a helluva lot of GELLIN within those 7 game winning streak

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