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    I was really sad because I got pumped up when Melo was fighting with Stevenson. Then he missed a free throw, botched layups and then he just faded to the background.

    Timid Melo is definitely not what we want to see. I agree he needs to work out hardcore and prove himself to be a top 5 player.

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    Offensively...i think hes just out of rhythm. He started off the season good, single handedly beat the celtics on Xmas and continued to play good until the injuries began to pile up. Then he missed those couple of weeks so of course its gonna take him a few more games offensively.

    Defensively, occasionally he'll play really aggressive but for the most part hes either lazy or not interested. Even if he was in great shape, i dont think this would be any different.

    It is frustrating that he rarely contributes defensively but we need him to at least do his thing on offense if we're gonna go anywhere.

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    Originally Posted by KingStarbury3
    Offensively...i think hes just out of rhythm. He started off the season good, single handedly beat the celtics on Xmas and continued to play good until the injuries began to pile up. Then he missed those couple of weeks so of course its gonna take him a few more games offensively.

    Defensively, occasionally he'll play really aggressive but for the most part hes either lazy or not interested. Even if he was in great shape, i dont think this would be any different.

    It is frustrating that he rarely contributes defensively but we need him to at least do his thing on offense if we're gonna go anywhere.
    I would even be satisfied if he played good team defense because I think on the ball D would be asking for too much from any of our 20 million dollar men.

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    Melo is a scorer so he thinks all the points he scores will help overshadow his other shortcomings liek defense and hustle.

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    Originally Posted by quiggle
    Melo is a scorer so he thinks all the points he scores will help overshadow his other shortcomings liek defense and hustle.
    We've seen more games from Melo this year where he hasnt defended or scored then any other year, resembling his fellow teammate Negative Stats

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    Originally Posted by quiggle
    hes good physique wise but its the 30 pounds of goofy accessories he wears the drag him down. for once, waer no headband, no arm sleeves, no leg warmers etc.
    thats another things, also those damn rib pads he wears, he's slowing himself down alot

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    so... as much as i love melo as well, lets not fool ourselves Melo Just does not fit dantoni's system.

    Dantoni wants- Ball movement

    Melo wants- Iso

    Jermey wants- The ball in his hands P.S you can see MELO"s Presence Disrupts Lins leadership.


    Melo wants- The ball in his hands( even though he may not admit it)


    Melo's back and now your asking him to play off ball, and move the ball around ? Iv'e watched basically Carmelo's Whole career and playing off the ball and moving it around is just not his game... the man thrives off Iso's, Abusing his defenders either blowing by them or taking the mid range jumper. So now you want to take this away from him? Basically I see dantoni asking him to become a spot up shooter....Like Gallanari was, Thats not going to work at all its not melo's game.

    Can Carmelo change his game up to fit into the system? of course he can, but then your taking away his strengths which makes the denver trade look very pointless because what your now asking Carmelo to do all this playing off the ball and passing, spreading the floor, waiting for your pg to set you up Gallanari/wilson Chandler excelled at this, with raymond felton the only difference now is your asking a STAR to do it mind you a area where this star is not comfortable with..
    Then ontop of that you have 3 guys who want the ball in their hands Melo, lin, Amare. on the positive note Lin, Melo did not look bad playing together nothing a couple of practices cant fix, melo looked like he was trying to hard to fit into the offense i think it has to come down to melo letting Lin play his game, Melo has to let Lin continue to attack. Lin has so much star power around him i think he's to concerned with Setting people up and trying to make Melo/stat happy they'll get their touches no doubt, but Lin is the leader of this team now its his job to figure out who gets the ball where they get the ball and when they get the ball he has to realize this melo needs to sit and have his little special talk like he did with Amare for Lin to fully grasp this.

    honestly how long do you think this so called ball movement will last? it's only a matter of time before the pressure hits and some one gives in, trying to do to much, because they want to be the hero.

    I can see melo actually Fitting with the mavericks slower pace for him and Dirk & and him can iso all they want, Dirk also has a post game which is close to unstoppable making a Dirk/Melo tandem even harder to guard + dirk can spread the floor up to the 3 point line. Of course i dont want to see Melo traded to any team i want him to be a Knick but just felt like throwing that out there

    Defenders trying to guard Melo is like bringing A knife to a gun fight, Pen to a test (first to figure out what rapper said these lyrics Gets a Rep =p

    Melo cant just move the ball around, he has to be more aggressive than he's ever been and attack the basket and either draw fouls or drive and hit the open man

    OR

    Like i said before the only way this works is if dantoni inserts a lethal shooter JR SMITH into the starting lineup and Follow the Boston Celtic Model

    Where you have

    Lin/Amare working the pick similar to--- Rondo/KG

    JR smith spreading the floor and coming off screens similar to ---Ray allen. JR is not a better shooter than ray allen but he will have your defense sweating and light it up anytime

    Melo Picking his spots weather it be Posting up or occasional Iso's---similar to paul pierce

    Chandler does not really have to make any changes.


    Solution 3 have amare or Melo come off the bench, i prefer amare Defenders are starting to lock down the paint because there losing respect for amare's jumper. He couldn't even drive pass dirk of all people. Move stat to center coming off the bench and surround him with Baron, Jr, Novak, and fields

    P.S did anyone notice, Lin giving up the ball alot Monday? JR was running the offense for a bit and i believe one play he literally ran over to melo to give the ball to melo leading to a Turn over? hmmm FATIGUE CATCHING UP?
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    It's like bringing a knife to a gunfight, pen to a test
    Your chest in the line of fire with ya thin-ass vest
    You bringing them boys to men, how them boys gonna win?
    Thats Jay-z man

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    Originally Posted by NY17KNICKS
    Thats Jay-z man
    right repped

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    Carmelo really just doesn't understand how important it is he maintain the spacing our offense requires.

    He simply wont let go of his sweet spots.

    Looks like we're going to have to lose some more before he uses discipline within the system.

    Starting to get sick of this ****er.

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    Originally Posted by ronoranina
    Carmelo really just doesn't understand how important it is he maintain the spacing our offense requires.

    He simply wont let go of his sweet spots.

    Looks like we're going to have to lose some more before he uses discipline within the system.

    Starting to get sick of this ****er.
    Dumbest post of the day!

    WTF are you talking about??? How is Melo disrupting the spacing? Please explain that one.

    He won't let go of his sweet spots??? Dude, you have no idea what you're saying. Honestly, I think you just started watching basetball. So you want to reduce Melo to a role player within a so called "system" you worship? lol

    You're questioning his discipline in the "system" when he only took 11 shots and pretty much overpassed the ball. You were on here no too long ago talking about how Melo needs to pass more and stop shooting so much. Oh man I can't wait to find one of your posts and expose you for a non-basketball understanding complaining fool.

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    Originally Posted by ronoranina
    It will be very exciting to see what Davis will be able to do. Our season depends on his play.

    Melo simply cannot hack it as a point forward. He's a scorer and he needs someone to direct the offense for him.

    All Knick fans should hope to God he can come back and be effective. Because if he is we'll be a seriously dangerous team.

    B Davis can run every bit of this offense.
    Yet you want him to "let go of his sweet spots" LOLOLOLOL!!!

    GTFOH with that crap. You've been exposed!

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    either Lin or Melo have to take control.. they too worried bout passing it to each other... they need to turn on the killer instinct and go for the kill... if one is not havin their day then they could pass it... or pass it for a better open look

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    Originally Posted by Number3
    either Lin or Melo have to take control.. they too worried bout passing it to each other... they need to turn on the killer instinct and go for the kill... if one is not havin their day then they could pass it... or pass it for a better open look
    Lin has to take control and not defer to Carmelo.

    Carmelo needs to be patient and continue to spread the floor like he's doing

    Call me crazy but Barganani is the IDLE center for this starting the lineup. I love chandlers leadership and defensive presence but a stretch C helps everyone offensively no clogged lanes and more spacing, this also helps Amare to be more effective. We would probably be one of the worst defensive/rebounding teams in the league though thats the only downfall

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    Originally Posted by nyk_nyk
    Dumbest post of the day!

    WTF are you talking about??? How is Melo disrupting the spacing? Please explain that one.
    Actually, I don't think this is dumb. Maybe I can explain. Our offense is build like a horse shoe. The pg has to penetrate into the "horse shoe" towards the basket. If he manages to keep his dribble alive (which Lin sometimes doesn't do as of yet --> hence the turnovers) he can either sink the floater, stop and pop, curl around a block emerging from underneath the basket, or he can -- and this is what should happen most often -- pass it to the open man, either for a three point shot or in penetrating towards the basket. As a variation on that theme, three players can spread the floor even wider and the pg and the pf/c use the middle of our horse shoe to play a pick and role. Melo is used to catching the ball in mid-range, reading the defense, making his move or passing the ball, if the defense are not giving him anything to work with. Doing so, he allows his defender to help out on the pg-penertration, quickly returning afterwards. Also he is right in the way of the pick and role. Neither does he penetrate to the basket, trailing the pg (that's hard work and in at least 70 per cent of the cases you do not get the ball, so it is not in his game plan).
    Ever since this trade happened that's what I have been saying: He is one heck of a player, but I cannot see how he is going to fit in.

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