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    John why you think Phoneix didn't want to keep Amare? They have the best athletic training staff in the NBA. The saw that Amare wasn't the same, his shot was easy to block and was not a max player. Amare is currently a Spurs version of Antonio McDysess with more touches and no defense. Its a problem because this isn't a temporary thing. Amare's limitations are timeless. He won't acquire his athelicism back

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    Originally Posted by p0nder
    Amare is healthy, being praised by his teammates and working diligently to get into basketball shape after bulking up the help his back recovery and play the 5.
    Once again, where did you hear that he was bulking up preparing to play center??

    Originally Posted by p0nder
    This is a championship caliber squad and you want to mess with it because amar'e isn't scoreing 25 points? we don't need STAT to get 25 any more with Lin and Melo on the team. And with Tyson on the defensive end STAT's questionable defense is a non-issue. So why do you want to trade him??? for the consistently under-performing Elton Brand? For Luis Scola??? am i even reading this right??? send us some of that shwag y'all are smoking cause that **** must be laced with angel dust or something for me to be seeing all these funky ass trades.
    Dude, are you even paying attention to what you type??

    I'm not an advocate for trading him at the moment, but your post didn't really support your argument.

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    Originally Posted by metrocard
    John why you think Phoneix didn't want to keep Amare? They have the best athletic training staff in the NBA. The saw that Amare wasn't the same, his shot was easy to block and was not a max player. Amare is currently a Spurs version of Antonio McDysess with more touches and no defense. Its a problem because this isn't a temporary thing. Amare's limitations are timeless. He won't acquire his athelicism back

    The Knicks were in a situation in which they were desperate to acquire talent and weren't going to miss out on acquiring available talent after promising their fans for 2 years that they were going to rebuild through the 2010 free agency. It would have looked bad on the NYK's front office had they not signed anyone that summer after blowing up the team and forcing their fans to watch a couple of seasons of losing basketball.

    I agree that I was one of those people that was worried about Amar'e's overall health and durability.And that Phoenix didn't want to take a shot at Amar'e because they didn't believe he was a franchise player and were concerned about his knees. But he managed to play at a high level for Phoenix and in the NBA the numbers that a player puts up or the potential that a player has seems to catch the attention of certain GM's more than his medical record does.

    I wish Amar'e were as durable as Kurt Thomas but unfortunately he has had an injury plagued career and has a lot of mileage on his body. The best thing that Amar'e could do if he doesn't come back to what he was last year is concentrate on rebounding and defense instead of scoring.

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    Originally Posted by johnstarky
    The thing that bothers me the most about this debate is how people point to Amar'e's contract in order to defend their position against Amar'e knowing that the man was offered a superstar's contract because he was playing like a superstar before he received that contract. And that whenever any player receives a max contract from a team there are always risks involved because that player could either suffer a career ending injury or that player could physically or mentally decline. But these risks shouldn't stop a team from trying to improve themselves by acquiring a top level player.

    NYK's fans would have caused a riot had Donnie Walsh not signed any major free agents in the summer of 2010 and the whole 2010 plan would have been one major flop.

    The Knicks in no way were going to acquire Amar'e 2 seasons ago by giving him less than the max. Apart from Dwyane Wade, Lebron James and Amar'e Stoudemire there were no players in the 2010 free agent market that deserved a max contract.

    It's interesting how when a good player achieves people do not care about his paycheck but when a good player underachieves one of the first things that people criticize is the amount of money that he makes. If you have a problem with how much money an athlete on your team makes then you should just simply not buy his mechandise or spend money watching him. Amar'e was simply doing the right thing by taking the most money he could ever earn in his lifetime. Don't get upset at the athlete that's being paid all this money, be upset at the people who allow athletes to get paid all this money.
    His contract is everything.
    At 20 million a year it eats up a lot of our cap room and our flexibility.
    I do not think it makes anyone less of a fan or harsh by saying that YES we agreed with the signing of Amare and he has up until this year carried the Knicks and given his heart and soul. And for those 2 years he was paid 40 million........
    Now we are in a situation where we do not need Amare to carry the team, His game as been totally off and his CONTRACT is eating up our flexibility to make us strong for the next few years.......If its possible to trade him I am sure we fill the CURRENT needs of the Knicks better then using it all on Amare...

    If we do not trade Amare I do think come playoff time he will step it up and it will be a plus having him......I am concerned about if he does not turn it around and the Knicks are stuck with a 20 million dollar contract,,,,,,,Why roll the dice if we can trade him ?????? whats the loss ? That amare gave his heart and soul to the Knicks ???? 20 million a year he should.

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    Originally Posted by metrocard
    John why you think Phoneix didn't want to keep Amare? They have the best athletic training staff in the NBA. The saw that Amare wasn't the same, his shot was easy to block and was not a max player. Amare is currently a Spurs version of Antonio McDysess with more touches and no defense.

    How's that decision worked out for Phoenix again?

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    LOL @ the never ending stat Rants.

    We can only talk about how much stat sucks, and present trade ideas. In reality the league is updated on players and im pretty sure they notice stat sucks just like us.

    Lets say your a GM, would you come to the knicks about a trade for stat?? unless your the bobcats, wizards, raptors, hornets or kings NO WAY IN HELL your coming to the knicks to see about stat. Unless there is a team who has a player on the trading block that you would like to acquire and you feel will benefit the team. Like David Lee <--- warriors are including him in a deal to get rid of monta ellis ( so the rumors say) this is where you call up the Warriors about a possible trade.

    Do you Honestly think, our front office is going to trade away the guy that made the Knicks relevant?

    More importantly do you not realize this is THE NEW YORK KNICKS, believe it or not, though stat sucks people still buy his jerseys and he still sells tickets and puts a$$es in those seats. Linsanity is the new "big thing" but, dont think for one second there aren't alot of fans who come to see Carmelo and Stat play.
    You really think our front office is trading away AMARE STOUDEMIRE for a player of less popularity and less of a big name? Dolan will Veto this.

    Rant, Rant, and Rant about stat all you want, the only player this front office would have a possibility of trading stat for and get back a high value for him would be Dwight Howard, if the magic became desperate.

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    Kevin Love > Amare
    Dirk Nowitzki > Amare
    Lamarcus Aldrige> Amare
    Blake Griffen > Amare
    Pau Gasol > Amare
    Chris Bosh > Amare

    ^^^Those are just all stars

    David Lee> Amare
    Paul Milsap> Amre
    Al Jefferson> Amare
    Tim Duncan> Amare
    Kris Humphries> Amare
    Andrea Bargarni> Amare
    Anderson Verajo> Amare
    Demarcus Cousins>Amare

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    Originally Posted by CoolRunnings
    Kevin Love > Amare
    Dirk Nowitzki > Amare
    Lamarcus Aldrige> Amare
    Blake Griffen > Amare
    Pau Gasol > Amare
    Chris Bosh > Amare

    ^^^Those are just all stars

    David Lee> Amare
    Paul Milsap> Amre
    Al Jefferson> Amare
    Tim Duncan> Amare
    Kris Humphries> Amare
    Andrea Bargarni> Amare
    Anderson Verajo> Amare
    Demarcus Cousins>Amare
    How about compare their overall careers to Amar'e's overall career? It's easy to take a sample size of games of a player and use it to compare him to other players who are performing better than him throughout half a season. That isn't a fair comparison.

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    The most fickle fans in the history of sports.

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    Originally Posted by CoolRunnings
    Kevin Love > Amare
    Dirk Nowitzki > Amare
    Lamarcus Aldrige> Amare
    Blake Griffen > Amare
    Pau Gasol > Amare
    Chris Bosh > Amare

    ^^^Those are just all stars

    David Lee> Amare
    Paul Milsap> Amre
    Al Jefferson> Amare
    Tim Duncan> Amare
    Kris Humphries> Amare
    Andrea Bargarni> Amare
    Anderson Verajo> Amare
    Demarcus Cousins>Amare
    humprhies and Varejo over stat really i'll have to disagree with you there homie.

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    u guys all call yourselves knicks fan yet all u do Is bag on players when they rnt playing at an elite level...yes amare isnt playing well but every1 saying "trade him he sucks" isn't going to help
    is a player not allowed to have an off year anymore?
    the guy is coming off an injury where he couldn't play all off season and now has to find a way to fit in...he is trying and thts wat matters its not like he is going out there and not doing anything...if nothing else he is attracting the d

    I hope u all realize tht once he starts playing at the elite level again u will all b kissing his ass...and remember we wouldn't b where we r 2day without him because do u really think melo, chandler, Davis, etc would have come here if it wasnt for him...you can answer tht for yourselves and stop hating

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    Originally Posted by CoolRunnings
    Kevin Love > Amare
    Dirk Nowitzki > Amare
    Lamarcus Aldrige> Amare
    Blake Griffen > Amare
    Pau Gasol > Amare
    Chris Bosh > Amare

    ^^^Those are just all stars

    David Lee> Amare
    Paul Milsap> Amre
    Al Jefferson> Amare
    Tim Duncan> Amare
    Kris Humphries> Amare
    Andrea Bargarni> Amare
    Anderson Verajo> Amare
    Demarcus Cousins>Amare

    i don't think any of your non allstars are better than amare, with the exception of maybe bargnani who was just getting to the point of surpassing him before the calf injury.
    Last edited by ronoranina; Mar 01, 2012 at 16:28.

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    Originally Posted by knickerbocka176
    melo's playing less to his ability to. from 45 percent to 39 FG%. stat went from 50 to 45 FG%. you guys are overreacting. so quick to turn on a player. look at the fields thread...wtf one bad game and he shoud be replaced as a starter?
    thank you...people are very quick to say something on this board as long as it is very radical..

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    This is a fan* site act like it

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    Originally Posted by knickerbocka176
    This is a fan* site act like it
    Calm down people, we just need PRACTICE.

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