Last edited by TakMan; Mar 05, 2012 at 05:34.
Lol @ people trying to equate playing the point, and being asked to score 25 to ball hogging. Yea...ask a pure scorer to switch up his game, and magically see the court through the eyes of a lead guard when he's a 6'8'' wing, who's only played that position in his entire collegiate and NBA career.
Ball hogging means you have no business with the ball in your hands, but yet you do. When your coach says "please have the ball in your hands, and run the show" and when the dude tries, but keeps reverting back to old habits, while averaging the most assists per game than he has at any other point in his career...I see a man playing out of position, looking like a fish out of water, while doing a poor job of accomplishing the task his coach gave him.
Carmelo Isoing is one of the most dangerous occurrences that can happen in a basketball game. There's a reason why he was voted by his peers as the hardest cover in the league. He just can't be the one killing his dribble to iso, pivot, and then shoot. When he's given the ball with an unused dribble, in Iso....good luck.
Guess if I was simple in the mind...everything would be fine.
D'Antoni and Melo can't co-habitate.
The dude's gotta get some isolation because, frankly, he is what he is: a successful 1 on 1 player. He's had a season to forget thus far: statistical nightmare compared to other seasons. Carmelo's down in every category except assists where he is up, but that will decline with Lin and Davis' presences. But he has to be given some opportunity to play his game by design.
Melo and Mike will never fit within one another's modus operandi. EVER. It's an absolute New York conundrum.
But in the absolute favor of D'Antoni, we've seen how successful this team can be with Melo's absence, and not the other way around.
That has also been the case in Melo's presence, however, as the second unit's +/- rating exceeds that of the starting lineups'. That doesn't correlate directly to Carmelo or any other individual, but this team can play Mike's game and win/do better than the starters because they're a better fit and play defense as a unit and as individuals better than a line up with Anthony in it.
It's an absolute mess.
Melo's having a **** season, but Mike gives him nothing in the form of a play(s) that's set specifically for Carmelo to get him in rhythm, never mind to take advantage of a situational mismatch etc. That doesn't excuse the horrible shooting, missed layups, techs/ejections, and general poor attitude, however....... - that's a personal observation.
I think thus far Amar'e, D'Antoni and Carmelo can all be labelled as individuals that are underachieving (or even failing) at their positions, because they just can't figure this **** out, nor seem to find any method in which they can optimize one another's or add to the other's role(s) for the betterment of the team.
I'd love to see how they communicate together off the court, and if there's a sense of alpha presence for D'Antoni as there should be. He is the coach after all.
If this season ends in tragedy - there's no guarantee we'll make the playoffs whatsoever - Mike will be the one that gets the ass, however, and we'll see what the outcome is of that.
Just like in the other thread about Amare getting the ball more hell yea Melo should. If the Knicks are to ever go anywhere their gonna need Melo with the ball more playing at a superstar level, him just fitting in is fine when he was coming back from an injury or whatever but down the stretch the Knicks need more iso's and need Melo down in the post he's one of the best low post players in the league.
As Melo's biggest supporter I will say I dont want him iso'ing a lot BUT he needs at least 5-10 a game just to keep the D honest, they dont always have to be clear outs, they can be post ups too, D'Antoni never gets Melo the ball at the block always FT Line extended
Boston new we were switching on D and ran plays to get smaller guys on Pierce and Garnett and they got easy post ups, what did we do, let Lin drive by Rondo into 3 Celtics and throw up some bull ****
As bad as Melo has played C'ANToni is not helping
A player is only as bad as a coach lets him be
everyone knows your main scorers are Kobe/Bynum/Gasol and everyone else just fills their role, the Lakers live off of Kobe getting 30, Gasol getting 20 and Bynum with 15
C'ANToni wants Lin to be Nash and everyone else to follow Lin's lead and honestly that **** is not gonna work
Honestly I don't see a problem with having a team which gives added responsibility to our role players. Anthony is no Bryant, and giving him a Bryant-esque sort of role is wrong. The more players you have capable of causing problems, the better you will fare against good defensive teams. Realistically Anthony has yet to achieve much in the NBA. I think now is when he should limit his shooting sprees to games where the team is not performing as one unit, rather than potentially mess up an effective setup. We now have a team that should not depend on Anthony game in game out in order to win. He needs to adapt, take wise shots (not forced shots which essentially lost us the game in overtime) and acknowledge that there are more than capable players he can pass to on the double team. At the end of the day basketball is a team sport; not a one man show.