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    WTF did i say? D antoni is going to turn Lin into shooting 3's machine

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    Originally Posted by fender0577
    I said this all along, give him his PG, so he can be exposed, for the bad coach he is.It's like putting a BAN-AID, on a gunshot wound with this guy, a PG won't help all his shortcomings as a coach.From, no in game adjustments(AT ALL), to bench your stars, for long periods of time, for no good reason.Not calling TO's to stop runs, to not fouling to prevent the shoot everyone knows the other teams looking for,to using a 7man rotation, when you have a least 9 good players.We have 2, career 24PPG scorers, yet both of them, go 5,6,7,+ possessions without touching the ball, this is unacceptable, any coach worth a damn, could get these guys there shots.

    Agree with all the points everyone is making over here.....what i've noticed to over the last few games is the following:
    During Lin-sanity, teams didnt know about jlin, they didnt scout him and try to take away his right. Also the fact that he play inferior point guards also helped.
    When Melo came back, after that Dallas win, teams coincidentally started to gameplan for Jlin. And what works is trapping him above the 3pt line. From there on out, every game we lost, if you look, teams trap Jlin and he doesnt get rid of the ball quickly.

    This is precisely what we didnt anticipate would happen when Melo returned. All along we said we'd be even better because as soon as Jlin is trapped you swing the ball over and Melo would beast one on one. But the problem is Jlin runs away towards the halfcourt when hes getting double teamed and hes so far out near the halfcourt line, the double teamer as time to go back to his man. All this takes up clock and then we are forced into either Jlin drive in (he turns it over or takes a bad short shot) or he pulls up a the 3pt line with a hand in his face.

    Mike needs to figure out a way to get the ball out of Jlin's hands fast when he gets doubleteamed so the defense is at a disadvantage and we can make our move. Or Jlin needs to learn how to split it (i.e. Chris Paul is the best at this). For someone whose an offensive genius, Mike is a dunce when it comes to making adjustments on the fly. Actually not even on the fly, we've had the same thing happen to us since the boston game and still no tweaks.

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    Originally Posted by NYCLakerfan
    Biggest problem is the coach, now that Lin is back to reality MDA is being exposed as a coach that over relies on his PG's. He has prob the most balanced roster top to bottom but he does not utilize them properly at all. I understand he has a system but if they players don't fit you have to make adjustments.

    I'd actually like to see Van Gundy get another shot in NY, it would be interesting to see what he could do with this roster.
    THIS IS IT!!!!!

    Obviously, our two stars have to play a bit better as well but this is it. The Linsanity was a combination of teams not being prepared for his style of play plus we played mostly bad teams during that 7 game stretch.

    I notice every team we play now (thx to MIA) knows to trap Lin near half court or in the paint. He's still effective but not nearly as much and his passing game has regressed a bit. He will learn but it only gets harder for him at this point. Even more so in the playoffs when teams can fully gameplan for an entire series.

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    Originally Posted by NYallDay
    Agree with all the points everyone is making over here.....what i've noticed to over the last few games is the following:
    During Lin-sanity, teams didnt know about jlin, they didnt scout him and try to take away his right. Also the fact that he play inferior point guards also helped.
    When Melo came back, after that Dallas win, teams coincidentally started to gameplan for Jlin. And what works is trapping him above the 3pt line. From there on out, every game we lost, if you look, teams trap Jlin and he doesnt get rid of the ball quickly.

    This is precisely what we didnt anticipate would happen when Melo returned. All along we said we'd be even better because as soon as Jlin is trapped you swing the ball over and Melo would beast one on one. But the problem is Jlin runs away towards the halfcourt when hes getting double teamed and hes so far out near the halfcourt line, the double teamer as time to go back to his man. All this takes up clock and then we are forced into either Jlin drive in (he turns it over or takes a bad short shot) or he pulls up a the 3pt line with a hand in his face.

    Mike needs to figure out a way to get the ball out of Jlin's hands fast when he gets doubleteamed so the defense is at a disadvantage and we can make our move. Or Jlin needs to learn how to split it (i.e. Chris Paul is the best at this). For someone whose an offensive genius, Mike is a dunce when it comes to making adjustments on the fly. Actually not even on the fly, we've had the same thing happen to us since the boston game and still no tweaks.
    Damn I basically repeated everything you said before I even read your post.

    You get a +1 for that sir!

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    Originally Posted by nyk_nyk
    Damn I basically repeated everything you said before I even read your post.

    You get a +1 for that sir!

    appreciate tha props

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    What happened to the Dantoni Lovers? (Sounds like a Pizza Hut pizza) Ron, Kblack et all. I'd love to get their opinion on what has transpired the last few games...

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    Originally Posted by nyk_nyk
    THIS IS IT!!!!!

    Obviously, our two stars have to play a bit better as well but this is it. The Linsanity was a combination of teams not being prepared for his style of play plus we played mostly bad teams during that 7 game stretch.

    I notice every team we play now (thx to MIA) knows to trap Lin near half court or in the paint. He's still effective but not nearly as much and his passing game has regressed a bit. He will learn but it only gets harder for him at this point. Even more so in the playoffs when teams can fully gameplan for an entire series.

    It doesn't help when your STAR teammates can't hit a damn shot. Or when your STAR PF does a pick n' roll with and lets the entire WORLD know he's open by immediately throwing both his hands up into the air. OHHH OHHHHH LOOK AT ME EVERYONE IM OPEN!! You gotta be incognegroe with that **** as you roll to the basket. If he could jump and catch an ally, it would also help so teams would play back on him on the roll. Instead they crowd him so he can't get a low pass.

    Melo cant make a jumper to save his life. 38% shooting for the season.

    J.R. Smith cant shoot since first game here.

    Fields can't play with Melo on the floor cause Melo is stagnant and doesnt keep the defenders moving.

    Lin gets trapped and double teamed constantly cause the only person he can pass to and know is gonna sink a shot is Novak who is now being smothered by the other team.

    There is a reason why every time we won in the past 15 games, Lin had 8+ assists and Novak had 15+ points. It's not rocket science people. Our star PF is no longer the threat he was inside and our star SF has lost his shooting touch because he cant jack 20+ shots a game anymore.

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    they should give some minutes to Toney Douglas on the SG position. Let him and Shump/Landry share minutes, so that all of them can be quite fresh

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    Let's say that we put Lin back on the bench and let Melo and Stat have as touches as they want, and you think we'll start winning?! Haven't we played this game before?

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