Page 17 of 18 FirstFirst ... 1112131415161718 LastLast
Results 241 to 255 of 256

Thread: Philadelphia 76ers @ New York Knicks 03.11 12:00PM

  1. #241
    Veteran
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Posts
    6,920
    Rep Power
    18

    Thumbs up

    Originally Posted by Newbie
    Okay, as I mentioned on one of the other threads, I'm new to basketball
    because of Jeremy Lin.

    Under the circumstances, I don't think it's reasonable to think the Knicks
    will suddenly become an overnight sensation as a team. Yes, Lin pulled
    that off in the beginning, but that was media hype. I'm still a fan of his,
    I can't deny it.

    However, I don't think it's all Melo's fault, or anyone in particular. They
    need to practice as a team, learn to play as a team. AND, play more
    defensively. They need to be under the basket when someone misses
    a shot.

    I can't blame the coach 100%. EXCEPT for the lack of defense, and I don't
    think that has anything to do with Lin. I suspect the Knicks never had
    defense. And, THAT I can't understand.

    The Knicks 5 game losing streak has nothing to do with Lin's performance....
    but it does have 100% to do with the headcoach poor coaching, substitution,
    and player to coach relation.

  2. #242
    Member Newbie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    263
    Rep Power
    4

    Default

    Originally Posted by Kiyaman
    The Knicks 5 game losing streak has nothing to do with Lin's performance....
    but it does have 100% to do with the headcoach poor coaching, substitution,
    and player to coach relation.
    I agree, especially the poor coaching and substitution.

  3. #243
    Veteran petescud's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Florida
    Posts
    1,814
    Rep Power
    9

    Default

    I love you guys. Thought it was just me putting this poor play down. The people in/from NY deserve better then this BS. Off with their heads

  4. #244
    Member Newbie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    263
    Rep Power
    4

    Default

    Originally Posted by petescud
    I love you guys. Thought it was just me putting this poor play down. The people in/from NY deserve better then this BS. Off with their heads
    Okay, perhaps I'm the eternal optimist, but I have high hopes for next
    season. *Don't hate on me* But, even though the Knicks are losing,
    it STILL has been a fascinating ride since Linsanity took over.

    Last edited by Newbie; Mar 11, 2012 at 17:15. Reason: Grammar:)

  5. #245
    Veteran petescud's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Florida
    Posts
    1,814
    Rep Power
    9

    Default

    I think i speak for most of us that we all believe in a great team here next year, though a lot of that will depend upon 1)coach 2)what players we can keep 3)better defensive stopping

    i also love Lin. I don't think he's the problem here. Yeah, he turns it over a bit, but all young players do something wrong in the NBA. I think in the offseason Lin need to work on weights to get stronger and work against more Double teams in practice





    Originally Posted by Newbie
    Okay, perhaps I'm the eternal optimist, but I have high hopes for next
    season. *Don't hate on me* But, even though the Knicks are losing,
    it's STILL has been a fascinating ride since Linsanity took over.


  6. #246
    Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    California
    Posts
    426
    Rep Power
    5

    Default

    Originally Posted by Kiyaman
    The crazy combination of Knicks lineups on the court in the past 5 games has been ridiculous....as if our substitution was made to lose games.

    If our headcoach had a brain....
    Shump/Fields would be the only SG in Lin's backcourt lineup....JR Smith should be working with Bdiddy as a veteran backcourt lineup throughout the remaining of the season....Tyson, Stat, and Melo would have different types of "trio or quad" lineups to be in for more-offense or more-defense to choose from by now.........
    Tyson/Stat/ Jefferies, Tyson/Jefferies/Melo, Tyson/Jefferies/Novak, Jorts/Stat/Melo, and Jordan/Stat/Melo.....

    What did Dantoni prove by benching Stat & Melo? Nothing!
    He probably wouldve prove something if he had a certain lineup of players on the court....
    "Tyson, Novak, Jefferies, Field, Shump, Lin"...
    Now that I've calmed down a bit after a few drinks, I want to share my frustration with my fellow KO'ers. How in the hell did MDA allow the 3rd quarter meltdown to last as long as it did? Where is the leadership on this team in time of crisis?

    Sure I am disappointed about this loss but I am more concerned about the dejected look on player's face when they were on the bench.

    Yes, let's make some changes.

  7. #247
    Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    279
    Rep Power
    3

    Default

    Originally Posted by VeryGundy
    Now that I've calmed down a bit after a few drinks, I want to share my frustration with my fellow KO'ers. How in the hell did MDA allow the 3rd quarter meltdown to last as long as it did? Where is the leadership on this team in time of crisis?

    Sure I am disappointed about this loss but I am more concerned about the dejected look on player's face when they were on the bench.

    Yes, let's make some changes.
    It is hard to bench 37$ million dollars worth of "superstar/stars". --- the Melo & Amare people that refuse to accept that they don't defend - every single play when they are on the floor - and they can't outscore consistent teams with VOLUME-Ball. Calling 30% shooting (CLUTCH) - are already up in arms. Melo only recently started being more consistent raising himself over 40%.. the cost...? oh.. going 11-22/23? Lost a lot of games just so he could finally be more consistent offensively.. cept his defense is only for show.. usually late/slow because bad positioning or he was taking a break ~ and those turn into fouls.

    * I have hope that Amare and Melo will start actually playing their guts out and defending every play, being aware, ready, REBOUNDING, taking responsibility for their crap defense, oh and offensive rebounding, oh and floor spacing, and communication.

    * am seeing some.... improvement in the team -but ya know leadership is missing from the max cats.

  8. #248
    Veteran Wargames's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Posts
    1,193
    Rep Power
    8

    Default

    I am tired of this lack of leadership talk. Leadership wasn't the reason the coach didn't tell his team to defensively adjust to Lou Williams being hot and start doubling him on the perimeter. Bad coaching caused that. Leadership isn't the reason the Knicks don't have a Zone defense down to slow guys like turner down (Woodson shares the blame for that). Leadership isn't the reason the Knicks haven't been winning. Bad coaching is the reason the Knicks have been losing.

  9. #249
    Member lookgrabpull's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    69
    Rep Power
    0

    Default

    Originally Posted by Wargames
    I am tired of this lack of leadership talk. Leadership wasn't the reason the coach didn't tell his team to defensively adjust to Lou Williams being hot and start doubling him on the perimeter. Bad coaching caused that. Leadership isn't the reason the Knicks don't have a Zone defense down to slow guys like turner down (Woodson shares the blame for that). Leadership isn't the reason the Knicks haven't been winning. Bad coaching is the reason the Knicks have been losing.
    It's not this OR the other. It's both. If we want to be a force in this league we must have both planned, clever, versatile coaching AND strong leadership (motivating everyone to move their ass on D)

    Even if MDA had only one of these qualities we would have been so much better off.

    we can agree that our coach has neither, and our stars seem comfortable with sinking the entire boat for this reason. they have absolutely no respect for him.

  10. #250
    Veteran
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Posts
    1,270
    Rep Power
    9

    Default

    The coach is the problem.

    There is so much in this game alone proving the coach is the weak link to the team. For the sake of sounding redundant about his many flaws you only have to look at just one. For instance....he let J-Lin take more shots than everyone else on the team....wtf.

    LOL, this **** is getting hysterical. You just have to laugh at this crap or you'll end up jumping off a bridge or something.

  11. #251
    Veteran quiggle's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Posts
    1,246
    Rep Power
    0

    Default

    why did Renaissance Man turn his back on Turner for the dunk? one day later I still don't understand it.

  12. #252
    Veteran Wargames's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Posts
    1,193
    Rep Power
    8

    Default

    the biggest proof that its the coach is the problem is the fact we keep getting killed in the 3rd quarter. Usually at half time coaches make adjustments to the other team in order to compensate for any weaknesses or advantages they can see from the first 2 quarters. The knicks either don't do this or they do it very badly.

    The knicks as a team is dysfunctional as well from lack of early planning. The best comparison would be a strong boxer who isn't very smart. In the early rounds he will win off of physical abilty alone (talent, depth) but if that is all he has he will lose the later rounds as the smarter boxer simply out boxes him and causes him to lose stamina by avoiding his blows.

    Its the same thing with the Knicks. They come out strong, make some stupid rotational changes that have nothing to do with who the opponent has on the floor and boom the other team has them. No adjustments are made for rational purposes. All opposing teams have to do is survive the initial rush make adjustments and they will get the win. Who Doesn't tell his team to double team Lou William's after he get hot? Who took out Melo when he was hot scoring? Who took out Shump when he was giving Williams Fits?

    D'Antoni

  13. #253
    Veteran Wargames's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Posts
    1,193
    Rep Power
    8

    Default

    Originally Posted by quiggle
    why did Renaissance Man turn his back on Turner for the dunk? one day later I still don't understand it.
    Shut up troll... Can Quiggle get banned already. I mean he has a woman in a heat shirt in his signature he isn't even pretending to be a Knicks fan and obviously doesn't belong here.

  14. #254
    Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Posts
    108
    Rep Power
    0

    Default

    Coach is the problem for sure.

    I know Lin has things to correct & learn, but he is really a rookie. The league knows to pick him up at half court, press him, double team, but he gets no help. He is just left on his own. No one comes to get the ball, set a pick for him, etc. And the coach just watches.

    In all honestly, if the league did this to Chris Paul every game / minute he would also have tough games and be frustrated. I'm not comparing Lin to Paul, just making an observation.

    Would you not think that a coach who was a PG in his playing days would be able to help a young PG on his team?

  15. #255
    Veteran Wargames's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Posts
    1,193
    Rep Power
    8

    Default

    Originally Posted by CLYDE
    Coach is the problem for sure.

    I know Lin has things to correct & learn, but he is really a rookie. The league knows to pick him up at half court, press him, double team, but he gets no help. He is just left on his own. No one comes to get the ball, set a pick for him, etc. And the coach just watches.

    In all honestly, if the league did this to Chris Paul every game / minute he would also have tough games and be frustrated. I'm not comparing Lin to Paul, just making an observation.

    Would you not think that a coach who was a PG in his playing days would be able to help a young PG on his team?
    the issue this team (save for chandler) has at making Picks is a key issue few bring up. The whole offense is based on the pick and roll and only Tyson does the physical part (picking) well. Amare stands there and rarely puts his shoulder into defenders going over his pick. Melo never picks, but then again Melo rarely posts anymore these day.... Anyhow that is yet another structural part of the Knicks issues no one talks about.

Similar Threads

  1. the PO
    By 6thman in forum NY Knicks
    Replies: 22
    Last Post: Jan 25, 2012, 20:10
  2. Christmas Day: Bulls @ Knicks
    By jpz17 in forum NY Knicks
    Replies: 66
    Last Post: Dec 26, 2010, 11:41
  3. Chad Ford: Knicks Pitch To LBJ
    By Crazy⑧s in forum NY Knicks
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: May 27, 2010, 00:47
  4. Philadelphia 76ers vs New York Knicks 12/08
    By MSGKnickz33 in forum NY Knicks
    Replies: 18
    Last Post: Dec 10, 2007, 07:15
  5. New York Knicks vs Philadelphia 76ers Game Thread
    By MSGKnickz33 in forum NY Knicks
    Replies: 52
    Last Post: Dec 09, 2007, 21:12

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •