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    Wargames I could not agree more.

    It's Phil ****ing Jackson. The man has won 11 titles as a coach. I would not take lightly his wife saying stuff like that, and I would not take lightly the fact he was drafted by the Knicks, played over a decade there, & was a fan favorite. His accomplishments as a coach are already ridiculous. But can you imagine the heights his legacy would reach if he were to return and win a title with the Knicks, a 3rd different team? His popularity in NYC and basketball circles everywhere would ****ing explode.

    Plus he's "only" 66. I say only because plenty of coaches have still coached older than that. Jackson also claimed he was quitting coaching forever after the Bulls. Obviously that did not happen. If he wants to do it this would be an absolute no-brainer for the Knicks FO. A guy who has coached star talent to titles with two teams, a current team with star talent but struggling, a return to the team he started with.

    I couldn't see him taking over mid season though, I think if it happened it'd probably have to be next season.
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    Originally Posted by SSj4Wingzero
    Phil's not coming mid-season though. He's coming at the end of the year. If we fire D'Antoni now, we're just going to have the rest of the season with Mike Woodson as coach.
    we might actually have a chance with Woodson but for the future we have to throw money at Phil

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    Lets say this does happen, STAT will have to adjust his game. He will have to learn to play with his back to the basket in order to run the traingle. I say this because I assume he would run it through Lin, Melo and Stat.

    This could actually serve good for Amare's career from here on out. He's not that explosive above the rim type player any more and has to learn post moves and the use of his body to protect his shot and the ball.

    Melo would love this because it would provide him with the iso that Kobe and Jordan recieved all those years.

    I am all for Phil comming here but its a dream.

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    Amare is the one that doesnt fit in the triangle. He would have to learn to new skills but I got to agree him learning some post moves would extebd his career quite a bit. But who knows players these days all seem more or less allergic to post moves.

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    Phill is the best coach for this crop of players we have. The triangle will be the best offense that will make our two big men Tyson and Amare feel comfortable in the the paint. Melo's passing game (sharp crisp) and iso moments will also get its place in the Triangle. I will only suggest we keep our defensive coach since Phill's defense philosophy can be shaky a times.

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    Originally Posted by Bishop*
    Phill is the best coach for this crop of players we have. The triangle will be the best offense that will make our two big men Tyson and Amare feel comfortable in the the paint. Melo's passing game (sharp crisp) and iso moments will also get its place in the Triangle. I will only suggest we keep our defensive coach since Phill's defense philosophy can be shaky a times.
    Amar'e would be atrocious in the triangle.

    He doesn't protect the ball well, he doesn't operate with his back to the basket -- he faces up way too much, I don't think he's a good enough passer, he has atrocious foot work.

    Sometimes it seems as if he's incapable of operating in traffic from a stand still position. He's better when he's attacking with pace, but that's not exactly the triangle offense.

    Everyone else would fit well (Fields would have to improve that jump shot) but I'm not sure STAT would fit.

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    Y wont stat fit? When MJ retired first time, the ran the triangle through Pippen. And since stat is no horace grant (stat cant defend or rebound), why cant knicks have chandler play the role of grant, and have stat be the bill wennington knocking down elbow jumpers?

    This is just a hypothetical of course, what Steven A Smith says holds no weight, mostly because he sounds like a ignorant idiot the way he talks.
    As someone mentioned, a monkey , while defecating, with a banana in one hand, a typewriter infront of him, can piece together better journalism than Smith the wanna b hood ignoramus.


    Originally Posted by nuckles2k2
    Amar'e would be atrocious in the triangle.

    He doesn't protect the ball well, he doesn't operate with his back to the basket -- he faces up way too much, I don't think he's a good enough passer, he has atrocious foot work.

    Sometimes it seems as if he's incapable of operating in traffic from a stand still position. He's better when he's attacking with pace, but that's not exactly the triangle offense.

    Everyone else would fit well (Fields would have to improve that jump shot) but I'm not sure STAT would fit.

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    SAS claim to know Basketball. He was one of the head cheerleaders to bring Melo to NYC. What a jokster. Melo got paid and we are left with a player that can't play team basketball.

    Yesterday this moron put all the blame on Lin and Coach Mike D. Really? Before Lin arrived, what was the Knicks record? After he was hurt, what did the knicks do again? 9-1? The guy is a buffoon and should be treated as one.

    And back to Melo. How can you be a superstar in this league if you can't finish around the rim. What good are you if you can't play defense and on offense can't finish. My gosh, did the Knicks the hosed.

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    you say to-mato , i say tom-ato , baffoon, monkey! its all the same . There should be a thread on how much we hate all these so called know it alls and experts. The only ones i respect are Clyde, Breen and Hahn, to some degree Tim Legler and the legendary but always under appreciated Hubie Brown. The Jon Barrys , Smiths, Barkleys, are like the blind leading the blind.

    Originally Posted by LINvincible
    SAS claim to know Basketball. He was one of the head cheerleaders to bring Melo to NYC. What a jokster. Melo got paid and we are left with a player that can't play team basketball.

    Yesterday this moron put all the blame on Lin and Coach Mike D. Really? Before Lin arrived, what was the Knicks record? After he was hurt, what did the knicks do again? 9-1? The guy is a buffoon and should be treated as one.

    And back to Melo. How can you be a superstar in this league if you can't finish around the rim. What good are you if you can't play defense and on offense can't finish. My gosh, did the Knicks the hosed.

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    Originally Posted by NYallDay
    Y wont stat fit? When MJ retired first time, the ran the triangle through Pippen. And since stat is no horace grant (stat cant defend or rebound), why cant knicks have chandler play the role of grant, and have stat be the bill wennington knocking down elbow jumpers?

    This is just a hypothetical of course, what Steven A Smith says holds no weight, mostly because he sounds like a ignorant idiot the way he talks.
    As someone mentioned, a monkey , while defecating, with a banana in one hand, a typewriter infront of him, can piece together better journalism than Smith the wanna b hood ignoramus.
    Theoretically that could work, if STAT's shots fall. Last year he was killing from 15-18 feet with his jumper. This year his field goal percentage plummeted with that shot, and it's being contested more this season than it was last year. Plus he's not getting it in the same rhythm when the shots aren't coming out of PnR/pick-n-pop action. This year it's more of a spot up jumper, and it looks busted as hell.

    If last night was the first sign that he can hit that spot up jumper (and he started bricking late in that game, so I dunno) then yea, it might work if he's not being relied on in the post.

    I know Stephen A can be a blow hard. But the one thing that he said that stuck with me is his line about the eye test.

    "You can say whatever you want to me, but my eyes ain't gonna lie to me."

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    Would be very surprised if Jackson came here.

    But as far as "final hoorahs" go, it wouldn't get any better than this.

    Still don't think he is up for the NYC basketball circus, and despite the sum of our parts being very very talented not sure he is willing to stick his neck out to try to make this team be a true contender.

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    Originally Posted by iSaYughh
    Would be very surprised if Jackson came here.

    But as far as "final hoorahs" go, it wouldn't get any better than this.

    Still don't think he is up for the NYC basketball circus, and despite the sum of our parts being very very talented not sure he is willing to stick his neck out to try to make this team be a true contender.
    I think he could deal with the circus, I don't know if he wants to deal with Dolan tho.

    I say his coming here lies solely on how much institutional influence Dolan is willing to give up.

    That, to me, does not bode well for us.

    But oh boy do I wish...

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    If Jax came, unlike D'antoni, maybe he would allow Clyde to teach Lin and just in general teach the team how to play defense.

    If Clyde taught them then Jax would make them do it.

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    Originally Posted by nuckles2k2
    I think he could deal with the circus, I don't know if he wants to deal with Dolan tho.

    I say his coming here lies solely on how much institutional influence Dolan is willing to give up.

    That, to me, does not bode well for us.

    But oh boy do I wish...
    Exactly. And it indeed bodes *horribly* for us.

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    Default Let's be completely honest here...

    Our players do not have high enough basketball-IQ's to efficiently run the triangle.

    The triangle is only as good as the weakest person on the team understands it. We have some dumb people on our team.

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