You can't teach "heart and will". Our 2 superstars or bums (that's what i call them) have no heart. They want someone to do all the dirty work (hustle, blocks, steals, rebounds, DEFENSE!!!) and give them the ball to score. The Knicks should just sit them and let them watch how the game of basketball is play. At this time, i wouldn't be upset if they traded both of them for a sack of potato.