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    Breaking News Locker Room has no respect for Mike D'Antoni, Mike trying to use Melo as scapegoat

    There are articles of this from Howard Beck, Chris Broussard, RealGM, and reports from Stephen A, but I like this article by Frank Isola who broke the news best. [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

    The locker room has turned against Mike D'Antoni and some sources in the organization believe he is trying to use Carmelo as a scapegoat.

    Isola talks about the time D'Antoni denied the report that Melo told him to out Lin in even though Lin and Carmelo both confirmed the report among other examples of Mike not protecting Carmelo.

    He brought up a story about how the entire team was trashing Mike D'Antoni and Carmelo refused to join in and was silent the whole time.

    Mike D'Antoni needs to be fired. He's a coward who can't coach or utilize the talent of his star players and he's a piece of **** for using Carmelo as a scapegoat. All of you who blame Carmelo need to know this. Carmelo has done nothing but defend D'Antoni and try his best to fit into this whacky retarded system, and all D'Antoni has done is play behind the scenes games and thrown Carmelo to the wolves in press conferences. Please defend Carmelo. Mile D'Antoni MUST be fired.

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    God this is a disaster

    Honestly this teams better off without either of them. Every bit of drama and hardship we've had over the last few years has all involved them and it has lead to nothing except losses.

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    This is exactly what i've been saying this whole time. But people wanna act like Melo just went from the best scorer in the league to a scrub over the course of a few months. There's very few coaches in the league that could have this roster and not have them at least in the playoffs. There's really no need to trade anybody, just fire D'antoni and give P Jax as much money as he wants and we will win a championship

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    What really has me annoyed and confused is they're trying to trade Melo now. It makes no sense you gave up half your team for him and it's a shortened season with a lameduck coach.

    It's like eddy curry and zach all over again and they wanna keep the physicallt questionable center who plays no defense again. Melo has never had a six game losing streak in his career before coming to the Knicks. You send him to any team out there and they become better and the Knicks become bogged down with even more players for D'antoni to mismatch on the court.

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    They aren't trying to trade Melo.

    Whose in charge?



    "He said he's not trading anyone," said the source, with direct contact with Dolan. "He said it's up to the coach to figure it out."

    Via Frank Isola/New York Daily News


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    * Talks about Melo trade are just fantasy talk. No point in discussing this seriously.

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    Originally Posted by Wargames
    What really has me annoyed and confused is they're trying to trade Melo now. It makes no sense you gave up half your team for him and it's a shortened season with a lameduck coach.

    It's like eddy curry and zach all over again and they wanna keep the physicallt questionable center who plays no defense again. Melo has never had a six game losing streak in his career before coming to the Knicks. You send him to any team out there and they become better and the Knicks become bogged down with even more players for D'antoni to mismatch on the court.
    That's funny because Denver got better the day he left and we got worse the day he arrived. We like every team in the league will be better of without him and his low career shooting g percentage

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    Originally Posted by overratedmelo
    That's funny because Denver got better the day he left and we got worse the day he arrived. We like every team in the league will be better of without him and his low career shooting g percentage
    Denver also let Chauncey go, which opened up playing time for Ty Lawson, who runs the up-tempo style better than the 33+ year old Billups did.

    Denver was already seated nicely in the playoffs when they had Melo, they just didn't skip a beat because when your offensive system is predicated on scoring points in the paint and getting to the free throw line....you're gonna be able to incorporate multiple skill sets in your offense, and let everyone play their game.

    That's why Brewer scores inside, Afflalo can shoot from the perimeter or foray into the paint, Nene stays down load and is always top 5 in FG%, Gallo is still a perimeter shooter who's drives to the rim are more commonplace now. Ty Lawson is always penetrating and doing damage in the paint; Al Harrington plays outside-in, etc.

    Melo comes to the Knicks and the "system" is to space the court, not get in the way, and wait your turn.

    You establish yourself in the NBA, for close to a decade, with the skill set that you've cultivated since high school and college, have coaches at every level put you in position for success -- from high school, to Syracuse, to Denver, and even Team USA....then get to the Knicks and suddenly you have to fit the system? You have to stand away from the area where you've made a living, to space the court for a Pick-and-roll? This makes sense in what universe?

    Seems like we have a bunch of people around here who need to be part of the conversation, but they don't really know the subject matter as well as they think they do.

    LAL's offensive system is built around Kobe, Pau, and Bynum. OKC's offensive system is built around KD and Westbrook. Chicago's offensive system is built around Rose and the PG position. Philly's offense is built for it's wing players to have success.

    The Knicks offense is built around an ideology and a particular play, regardless of where the strength of the team is.

    But that's Melo's fault, right?

    Of course MDA is gonna use this to his advantage and try to scapegoat Melo. The media and fans are giving him all the ammunition he needs.

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    Damn bro your right, Denver got so much better!
    Im thinkin Gallo SINGLE HANDEDLY carries them to West Finals and becomes a former top 5 scorer.

    You make an account just to talk **** and cause trouble.

    This place is so f*cked up nowadays

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    There is a report the Knicks have offered Melo+Chandler for Howard+Hedo.
    They say Dolan agreeing would heat the talk up big time.

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    Carmelo Anthony has made his name in the NBA by scoring inside primarily.

    Mike D'Antoni's offense is predicated on the PG and center doing the majority of the scoring inside, while every one else spaces and shoots when open.

    STAT set a few screens, on the wing, for Melo in the Bulls game, for the first time all season. It took 41 games to see a 34 PnR, when those two players make a combined 32 million dollars.

    But this is Carmelo's fault...somehow, right?

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    Originally Posted by kinein
    They aren't trying to trade Melo.

    Whose in charge?



    "He said he's not trading anyone," said the source, with direct contact with Dolan. "He said it's up to the coach to figure it out."

    Via Frank Isola/New York Daily News


    Read more: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]


    * Talks about Melo trade are just fantasy talk. No point in discussing this seriously.
    If this is indeed true, than we're fuked. Cuz Melo can and will bury the team just to blame it on the coach, Amare is out of shape completely.
    And regardless, they don't need to hustle and give their best effort, since even if this team fails and they do get traded next offseason, then they keep their money and move to the next team, while blaming it on the "system". They'd be right in a lot of ways, but the team would eventually suffer.

    IF there are no roster/coaching changes, then DAntoni needs to man up. Whenever the starts aren't hustling, he should sit their asses down. Let melo earn his max salary while shooting 11 pts a game and becoming the joke of the league. Let amare watch wear his towel like a monk, while Lin and Chandler play perfect PnR (like we've seen them do). He'll soon become that old over-the-top former star that the media is going to rape.

    This alone would get more respect as a coach, and then he should sit his own ass down to do some homework on how to coach defense and come out with a plan for every situation he can think of.

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    I wanna see if Payton Manning goes to a new team and is forced to use their terminology, succumb to the whims of his new offensive coordinator, not get off to a good start, and see if that fan base implodes on itself and call for Manning's head


    OR

    If Payton Manning's new team realizes that Payton has had success in the NFL for long enough to realize his strengths and weaknesses, and does it's best to appease him and let him run what he's comfortable with.


    Which one seems more likely?

    I mean....even Miami let LBJ become the primary ball-handler when he came to the Heat. Wade is playing more off the ball with the addition of James.

    But yet, we need to make sure we run 1-5 PnRs all game, to the detriment of what Carmelo Anthony does well.

    THAT MAKES NO SENSE.

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    Trade Melo? Are you ****ing serious fire this ****ing piece of **** D antoni!!!!!!!! What a ****ing disgrace its not ****ing Melo why would you trade Melo, the face of your franchise and a ****ing prolific scorer under a right coach not speed ball dick head D antoni man we have to send a petition to the GM of the Knicks saying to fire D antoni asap!!! What a ****ing *******!... My bad im just pissed off that they want to do Melo away dirty and not know how to ****ing use him

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    Originally Posted by BachaCho
    Trade Melo? Are you ****ing serious fire this ****ing piece of **** D antoni!!!!!!!! What a ****ing disgrace its not ****ing Melo why would you trade Melo, the face of your franchise and a ****ing prolific scorer under a right coach not speed ball dick head D antoni man we have to send a petition to the GM of the Knicks saying to fire D antoni asap!!! What a ****ing *******!... My bad im just pissed off that they want to do Melo away dirty and not know how to ****ing use him
    I'm not saying we should trade melo. All I'm sayin is that this situation is poisonous. Because this trio of Melo-Amare-Dantoni is not working on AND off court. This is bad for the entire team, and if management doesn't want to change anything, than we are ****ed.
    Fire Dantoni and bring a new coach that would sort this mess out = great.
    Trade Amare to unclog the post and provide more defense and hustle - and melo will become the superstar that we know he is = great.

    But to leave it as it is will kill us, and Melo and Amare's frustration will destroy whatever basketball coaching abilities our bullheaded coach has.

    Management has to intervene.

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    Originally Posted by lookgrabpull
    I'm not saying we should trade melo. All I'm sayin is that this situation is poisonous. Because this trio of Melo-Amare-Dantoni is not working on AND off court. This is bad for the entire team, and if management doesn't want to change anything, than we are ****ed.
    Fire Dantoni and bring a new coach that would sort this mess out = great.
    Trade Amare to unclog the post and provide more defense and hustle - and melo will become the superstar that we know he is = great.

    But to leave it as it is will kill us, and Melo and Amare's frustration will destroy whatever basketball coaching abilities our bullheaded coach has.

    Management has to intervene.
    MDA won't be back tho, he already requested an extension prior to the season, and was denied. If he had a shot at getting a new deal and coming back, he would have had it already.

    But you're right. Something needs to be done. I say just remove MDA now to make the situation less volatile.

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