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    This 3 game winning streak feels great, but I can't help but wonder why this energy and effort was missing before. It's obvious guys were capable at playing with this intensity but were not. Credit is definitely due to Woodson but it's not like he's even gotten to really instill his sets yet. I'm happy but I do feel a bit frustrated because we could've been playing at this level all year.

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    He's getting them ready.. getting them motivated... which is what coaches are supposed to do.. Plain and simple Dantoni didn't do that. Notice the times Woodson scolded Amare and Fields for not getting back on defense or blowing an assignment? Accountability will make you do crazy things... like staying sharp and focused for 48 minutes. Because you know if you slip up you're getting benched..

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    Originally Posted by StEpHoN_mArBuRy
    He's getting them ready.. getting them motivated... which is what coaches are supposed to do.. Plain and simple Dantoni didn't do that. Notice the times Woodson scolded Amare and Fields for not getting back on defense or blowing an assignment? Accountability will make you do crazy things... like staying sharp and focused for 48 minutes. Because you know if you slip up you're getting benched..
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    -he's motivating them

    -Communicating with them

    -He's getting them to listen, He's not scared to give our stars a earful. Unlike Dantoni who would never yell at Melo or stat for their flaws and rather praise them & tell them their great in post game interviews, when their clearly not playing "great"

    -Making them feel like a TEAM, getting everyone involved im not a fan of the VERY QUICK substitutions especially if someone is hot, but i guess it works out for the better as the games progress.

    -Calls timeouts weather were up or down he calls timeouts regardless. I dont see how anyone could appreciate Dantoni only calling timeouts when we lose the lead... only to have his players looking at a Marked up game plan with nothing being said at all. "besides clapping his hands and saying "lets go". Seriously if you were a player how would you feel about that.

    -Yells at them when there doing something wrong "mainly on defense"

    -Woodson has them getting it done defensively and wont hesitate to sit a player when he's not giving it his all out there "as we saw with landry fields"

    Basically Woodson is doing something Dantoni was not doing and thats being a coach
    & dont sit here and tell me the offense is the same blah blah blah COACHING COMES DOWN TO WAY MORE WHATS GOING ON OFFENSIVELY. It also comes down to showing the players you actually CARE.

    Woodson is holding Stat & Melo accountable for what goes on in the locker room & on the floor
    , this why you see more defense being played by Amare & this is why you see a more focused Carmelo.
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    Originally Posted by Almost_famous718
    This

    -he's motivating them

    -Communicating with them

    -He's getting them to listen, He's not scared to give our stars a earful. Unlike Dantoni who would never yell at Melo or stat for their flaws and rather praise them & tell them their great in post game interviews, when their clearly not playing "great"

    -Making them feel like a TEAM, getting everyone involved im not a fan of the VERY QUICK substitutions especially if someone is hot, but i guess it works out for the better as the games progress.

    -Calls timeouts weather were up or down he calls timeouts regardless. I dont see how anyone could appreciate Dantoni only calling timeouts when we lose the lead... only to have his players looking at a Marked up game plan with nothing being said at all. "besides clapping his hands and saying "lets go". Seriously if you were a player how would you feel about that.

    -Yells at them when there doing something wrong "mainly on defense"

    -Woodson has them getting it done defensively and wont hesitate to sit a player when he's not giving it his all out there "as we saw with landry fields"

    Basically Woodson is doing something Dantoni was not doing and thats being a coach
    & dont sit here and tell me the offense is the same blah blah blah COACHING COMES DOWN TO WAY MORE WHATS GOING ON OFFENSIVELY. It also comes down to showing the players you actually CARE.

    Woodson is holding Stat & Melo accountable for what goes on in the locker room & on the floor
    , this why you see more defense being played by Amare & this is why you see a more focused Carmelo.
    Great post right here.

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    The fact of the matter is he is being a coach and being the leader..... I've said a few times that the best coaches lead their team. The media was trying to make the Star's be the leaders and blah blah blah (seriously though the media loves the Knicks being dysfunctional).

    Now the coach is the leader. Woodson is doing ok too. He seems to have improved offensively from Atlanta (though that could be the improved roster from there as well) while still drilling defense that happens to look a lot better than what he ran I Atlanta as well. It makes me wonder if he took ACCOUNTABILITY for Atlanta's playoff woes and improved upon himself as a coach since then.

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    All here have made good points.

    In summary:

    1. Coach was a real legit NBA player.
    2. Coach demands respect.
    3. Coach gives respect tp players.
    4. Treats them like men.

    It's simple human nature, people respond to respectful authority and someone who takes the time to help you be better.

    Example: I like when coach said about Lin, "I'm going to teach him to be a better PG". D'antoni just put Lin on the floor and hoped Lin would do something to save his job.

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    These suckas are scared of him, everytime they show him on the sidelines, he looks like he's ready to fight one of his players.He almost made Fields cry last night, it was a thing of beauty, GETTEM WOODY.

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    Originally Posted by CLYDE
    All here have made good points.

    In summary:

    1. Coach was a real legit NBA player.
    2. Coach demands respect.
    3. Coach gives respect tp players.
    4. Treats them like men.


    It's simple human nature, people respond to respectful authority and someone who takes the time to help you be better.

    Example: I like when coach said about Lin, "I'm going to teach him to be a better PG". D'antoni just put Lin on the floor and hoped Lin would do something to save his job.
    Originally Posted by fender0577
    These suckas are scared of him, everytime they show him on the sidelines, he looks like he's ready to fight one of his players.He almost made Fields cry last night, it was a thing of beauty, GETTEM WOODY.
    Which is it?

    The bottom line is these players have no place else to hide - Woodson has done a good job and the players look motivated b/c (in my opinion) they realize eyeballs will be on THEM (and not the coach) if they start not giving like a certain Mr. Anthony.

    I just hope it's not a honeymoon effect and this actually is sustainable. The way Woodson left Atlanta, I'm not sure.

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    Originally Posted by Almost_famous718
    This

    -he's motivating them

    -Communicating with them

    -He's getting them to listen, He's not scared to give our stars a earful. Unlike Dantoni who would never yell at Melo or stat for their flaws and rather praise them & tell them their great in post game interviews, when their clearly not playing "great"

    -Making them feel like a TEAM, getting everyone involved im not a fan of the VERY QUICK substitutions especially if someone is hot, but i guess it works out for the better as the games progress.

    -Calls timeouts weather were up or down he calls timeouts regardless. I dont see how anyone could appreciate Dantoni only calling timeouts when we lose the lead... only to have his players looking at a Marked up game plan with nothing being said at all. "besides clapping his hands and saying "lets go". Seriously if you were a player how would you feel about that.

    -Yells at them when there doing something wrong "mainly on defense"

    -Woodson has them getting it done defensively and wont hesitate to sit a player when he's not giving it his all out there "as we saw with landry fields"

    Basically Woodson is doing something Dantoni was not doing and thats being a coach & dont sit here and tell me the offense is the same blah blah blah COACHING COMES DOWN TO WAY MORE WHATS GOING ON OFFENSIVELY. It also comes down to showing the players you actually CARE.

    Woodson is holding Stat & Melo accountable for what goes on in the locker room & on the floor, this why you see more defense being played by Amare & this is why you see a more focused Carmelo.
    This is a fantastic post.
    Woodson is not a great coach(not yet), he is a good coach, but as i told my friend before Dumbtony was fired(yes, i think he was fired), that even an average coach can have the winning record with these guys. Unlike Dumbtony, Woodson makes adjustments during the game before its too late.

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    Feel the same way, too bad these guys are only playing for their reputations right now

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    Originally Posted by munco
    This 3 game winning streak feels great, but I can't help but wonder why this energy and effort was missing before. It's obvious guys were capable at playing with this intensity but were not. Credit is definitely due to Woodson but it's not like he's even gotten to really instill his sets yet. I'm happy but I do feel a bit frustrated because we could've been playing at this level all year.

    What u fear to realize or do your homework on before making this post....
    is the personal-conflict Dantoni been having with players in Phoenix & New York about
    his flawed coaching style and small rotation of players.
    Each of Dantoni's seasons as a Knicks headcoach players complained and received DNP.
    So playing 48 minutes of defense for Dantoni was out of the question....u get injured that way.
    Now playing for Woodson 10 Man Rotation u have plenty of energy for defense plus half
    the chance of getting injured with so much help defense from so many teammates....

    Stop forgetting the EC has always been about the best defensive team
    making the ECF. There is no place in the EC for a coach like Dantoni...

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    Originally Posted by Kiyaman
    What u fear to realize or do your homework on before making this post....
    is the personal-conflict Dantoni been having with players in Phoenix & New York about
    his flawed coaching style and small rotation of players.
    Each of Dantoni's seasons as a Knicks headcoach players complained and received DNP.
    So playing 48 minutes of defense for Dantoni was out of the question....u get injured that way.
    Now playing for Woodson 10 Man Rotation u have plenty of energy for defense plus half
    the chance of getting injured with so much help defense from so many teammates....

    Stop forgetting the EC has always been about the best defensive team
    making the ECF. There is no place in the EC for a coach like Dantoni...
    I think you should be in line to replace Herb Williams.......love the wisdom

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    Originally Posted by munco
    This 3 game winning streak feels great, but I can't help but wonder why this energy and effort was missing before. It's obvious guys were capable at playing with this intensity but were not. Credit is definitely due to Woodson but it's not like he's even gotten to really instill his sets yet. I'm happy but I do feel a bit frustrated because we could've been playing at this level all year.
    I think it has to do with timing, as well. Because players were out with injuries, because D'Antoni took a chance with Jeremy Lin who was a "new" body.

    Because it took time for the team to get used to playing with each other. Because Woodson is now coaching and the Knicks are playing more defensively than when D'Antoni was coaching. Because they have nothing to lose. They were doing terribly and Melo and D'Antoni didn't have the best relationship. And, I can't blame if Melo and some of the other players resented that Lin was getting all the limelight because of the media and the fans. It's only human to feel that way.

    But, there seems to be better team work now!!

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    Originally Posted by munco
    This 3 game winning streak feels great, but I can't help but wonder why this energy and effort was missing before. It's obvious guys were capable at playing with this intensity but were not. Credit is definitely due to Woodson but it's not like he's even gotten to really instill his sets yet. I'm happy but I do feel a bit frustrated because we could've been playing at this level all year.

    Its simple. The energy level has picked up on defense. Something that didnt concern MDA as much, if at all. Woody has put the proper emphasis in place. Defense first....

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    Originally Posted by Clyde & The Pearl
    Its simple. The energy level has picked up on defense. Something that didnt concern MDA as much, if at all. Woody has put the proper emphasis in place. Defense first....
    I don't believe MDA actually promotes zero defense. He wants fastbreaking on every play if the other team misses. As a result, one or both of your forwards run toward the other end when they see a missed shots. Woodson would want everyone to go after defensive rebounds because he runs more of a half-court offense.

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