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    I'm a little worried tbh.

    1) He started to look sharper again and finally became some kind of asset to us again on offense

    2) His contract is still very long and very nasty so an injured Amar'e on $20 mil. a year would hurt our cap tremendously....

    3) Starting to get injury prone in only his second year with us? Wow, I didn't expect this at all....I thought he'd eventually struggle with injury, but only in his final season or second final season and not because of back injuries but because of knee issues.

    This could really screw up our mid-term plan I hope they can get him back on track and healthy for the next 2-3 years...back injuries can become chronic and once that happens you're limited to 40-50 games a season playing at 70-80% because of no game sharpness due to the constant injury breaks.

    If he needs surgery it's probably better to do it right now, give him all spring and summer to recover and come back in September/October.

    Better than the half-hearted attempt we took last year where an injured Amar'e played at 50% and did more damage than good in the Playoffs.

    Just get him back to full fitness, if it means season done for him so be it. He's got plenty of years left on his contract, would be stupid to burn him now, especially because his contract is not insured.

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    Originally Posted by YuvalNYC
    my bad i thought teams could amnesty more than once just not in the same offseason...
    I'm pretty sure amnesty is not a one off but I believe there's a waiting period until you can use it again. I really can't remember but I believe it was 3-5 years. Where's LJ4ptPlay when you need him?!

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    Originally Posted by donchris
    Thank you for sharing your knowledge. The forum clearly needs it.

    Anyone ever heard of a guy named Larry Johnson? This was a long, long time ago before players stopped playing defense and called themselves 'Super Stars'. Anyway, Johnson played with chronic back injuries for years. And his injury was far more severe than a bulging disk. LJ's back issues ranged from a pinched nerve, back springs and a rupturing patellar tendon. Yet through all of this he still managed to help the Charlotte Hornets get 50 wins and went to help the Knicks make history as the first 8 seed to make it to the finals.

    Also keep in mind that Galinari has laminotomy back surgery and he's come back nicely. So retirement talk is nonsense.
    It wasn't that long ago, everyone should remember Grandmama, what I remember is that LJ lost a lot of his explosiveness after he started having back problems.

    LJ is a perfect example of why we should be concerned about Stat's back. This from Wikipedia.

    Johnson had entered the league as an explosive power forward, averaging over 20 points and 10 rebounds per game. However, after the injury to his back, Johnson was forced to develop an all-around game with an improved outside shot.

    On October 10, 2001, Johnson announced his early retirement from basketball due to chronic back problems that had plagued him for several years, after his point production had decreased for three straight years.

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    Originally Posted by smokes
    I'm pretty sure amnesty is not a one off but I believe there's a waiting period until you can use it again. I really can't remember but I believe it was 3-5 years. Where's LJ4ptPlay when you need him?!
    Pretty sure it's a one off. Teams get to use it once during the new CBA, if you haven't used it there is no expiration but we shot our bullet with Billups.

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    Amare Stoudemire (back) will be out four weeks in a best-case scenario, a source tells the Daily News.
    This report is from Monday night, so we're not taking it as gospel. On Tuesday, Stoudemire was scheduled to meet with a specialist in Miami to receive a second opinion. There's still no word on if this consultant recommended surgery. Either way, Amare's season is in real jeopardy as the Daily News' report suggests he'll need a month off even without surgery.
    4 weeks minimum.

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    Originally Posted by smokes
    I'm pretty sure amnesty is not a one off but I believe there's a waiting period until you can use it again. I really can't remember but I believe it was 3-5 years. Where's LJ4ptPlay when you need him?!
    I think the amnesty deal was a one-time deal as well.

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    Yea i just read about it, its a one time deal.
    too bad lol im sure they wouldve used it on stat...

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    I stand corrected! Still I reckon STAT will be back, this season or next, to dominate again

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    lesson learned! dont give up so much money on someone with back injury prone

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    Originally Posted by Number3
    lesson learned! dont give up so much money on someone with back injury prone
    lol this has been going on for the past decade.. unfortunately Dolan doesnt learn...

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    Originally Posted by Sprewell-Houston
    3) Starting to get injury prone in only his second year with us? Wow, I didn't expect this at all....I thought he'd eventually struggle with injury, but only in his final season or second final season and not because of back injuries but because of knee issues.
    Lockout season, there are plenty of younger players that experienced tough injuries this year. NBA was desperate to play as many games as possible and that's way it turned into an "ugly" season full of struggle and injuries.

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    Originally Posted by smokes
    4 weeks minimum.
    Not sure if that source is reliable yet, we'll prob no for sure by tonight or tomorrow

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    you guys have to relax he will be back soon and will be back to his best. Theyre professional athletes with world class physio and trainers and diets etc. The only time he would retire if he broke his neck or back! he will be back before the play-offs!

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    Originally Posted by masri01
    you guys have to relax he will be back soon and will be back to his best. Theyre professional athletes with world class physio and trainers and diets etc. The only time he would retire if he broke his neck or back! he will be back before the play-offs!
    That's easily a best case scenario, but grounded in absolutely no reality.

    A structural back injury, is a structural back injury.

    I'm not sure how much of an advantage you have being a world class athlete when we're talking about the spinal column, vertebrae, and tissue between the vertebrae.

    It's just gonna take time, time I don't that the team has, or can afford.

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