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    Very early days no doubt but thought I'd get people's opinions on the matter. He spent the first half of the season in the background attempting to instill at least a basic comprehension of the important role defence plays in winning games. The question is: Did he re-assess his offensive approach during this time as a result of experiencing a different type of offence? Watching the Knicks - Magic game again yesterday confirmed my thoughts that the Knicks offensive game is still very much centered on quick ball movement and good look shots. The difference (on offence) between the Woodson era and the D'Antoni era is that the players appear far more confident and motivated with this approach. Woodson makes sure of this by addressing any potential issues early with his time outs and adjustments. Defensively it's like night and day and -on that end- Woodson seems to have already stamped his name on the Knicks. Do you think Woodson will continue to stick with a combination of run and gun/ISO, or will he gradually attempt to bring in his old approach?

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    Apologies as I've just realised this probably should have gone into the Woodson appreciation thread. Admins feel free to merge.

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    Shame shame shame TakMan....Mike Woodson headcoaching philosophy that turned the Atlanta Hawks into a 52 win season team....were from Woody beating the Hawks oponents at their own game, Woody big problem with the Hawks were the Hawks GM never gave Woody one decent PG to rely on throughout his term as the Hawks headcoach.

    The Knicks beat the Magic at their own game the other night, the Magic is a 3-ball shooting team (it reminded u of Dantoni only offense for 4 seasons).
    We did not beat the Pacers, Philly, or Bucks with that offense.

    Woody "System" is all about 85% of his 10 man rotation putting out their full-effort in their defensive talent to get playingtime the next game....this defensive formular has been working to the Knicks advantage with players putting more energy on defense than offense making the Knicks team-defense better each game 8-1....Woody defense in 9 games is averaging 86 points from oponents compared to Damphoney giving oponents 96 points.

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    I don't know about his coaching philosophy growing, but his head and belly sure have grown a bit. JK Woodie! Your our man now, do us proud!

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    Originally Posted by Kiyaman
    Shame shame shame TakMan....Mike Woodson headcoaching philosophy that turned the Atlanta Hawks into a 52 win season team....were from Woody beating the Hawks oponents at their own game, Woody big problem with the Hawks were the Hawks GM never gave Woody one decent PG to rely on throughout his term as the Hawks headcoach.

    The Knicks beat the Magic at their own game the other night, the Magic is a 3-ball shooting team (it reminded u of Dantoni only offense for 4 seasons).
    We did not beat the Pacers, Philly, or Bucks with that offense.

    Woody "System" is all about 85% of his 10 man rotation putting out their full-effort in their defensive talent to get playingtime the next game....this defensive formular has been working to the Knicks advantage with players putting more energy on defense than offense making the Knicks team-defense better each game 8-1....Woody defense in 9 games is averaging 86 points from oponents compared to Damphoney giving oponents 96 points.
    See whilst it was Woodson's defence that made atlanta a well placed team in the East, it was his lack of variety offered on offence that did not allow them to perform in the playoffs. Even the worst defensive teams step it up in the playoffs. This is where a balance is required. Woodson himself stated that the Knicks would keep certain aspects of D'Antoni's offence during his tenure. He's still running the pick n roll and we're still shooting lots of 3's. My interest is whether Woodson is going to progressively change the offensive plan or whether he's trying to add to his tactics.

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    Originally Posted by TakMan
    See whilst it was Woodson's defence that made atlanta a well placed team in the East, it was his lack of variety offered on offence that did not allow them to perform in the playoffs. Even the worst defensive teams step it up in the playoffs. This is where a balance is required. Woodson himself stated that the Knicks would keep certain aspects of D'Antoni's offence during his tenure. He's still running the pick n roll and we're still shooting lots of 3's. My interest is whether Woodson is going to progressively change the offensive plan or whether he's trying to add to his tactics.

    I will repeat it again "Woodson did not have a decent starting PG throughout his tenor as the Hawks headcoach", to take the Hawks pass the first-round.
    And the Hawks still dont have a PG to lead them pass the first round.

    When Kobe got knocked out of the playoffs in the first round (2007), Kobe went berserk asking to be traded, to cool down Kobe for the next season Lakers added PG-Derrik Fisher in their training-camp to go to the 2008 FINALS.

    Wade didnt have a decent PG and got blown-out of the first round two seasons in a row (2008 & 2009)....the Heat added Point-Foward Lebron James with combo-guard Wade to go straight to the 2010 FINALS.

    A PG creativeness controls all fazes of the offense in a playoff series....thats the reason why Marbury was a question-mark his entire career in the NBA as a high salary PG.

    Dantoni's so-call offense is a play we used in High School when our oponents had good defensive-bigmen that dont pick up any fouls for knocking u senseless. We had to play the peremeter like Dantoni so-call offense, the only thing different was we had double-screens set for our best shooters, when Dantoni didnt have any screens in his offense.

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    TakMan....I have to agree with u on a few things about Woody coaching, all of a sudden Woody decreased the players rotation down to 7+ players vs the Hawks when we have a game the next day WTF....plus taking the 2+ substitution players out the game so fast when they were just warming up to their oponents. Now that is all the signs of Dantoni....Why? because in the Hawks game we seen both C-Chandler & PG-Davis make consistent foolish mistakes quarter after quarter....I believe both Chandler/Davis were indirectly telling headcoach Woodson to give Jordan & Douglas some playingtime in the beginning of this back to back....Woodson act like he too, have a personal beef with players....just like Damphoney.

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