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    Originally Posted by 21 Shump Street
    Actually that's not such a bad idea, having cards similar to soccer, 2 strikes and your out. If you get say 10 first strikes in a season your suspended etc.
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    isnt a red card equivalent to a flagrant 2? i think fines is the way to go, just cuz the refs make a bad call, the games should be reviewed after and any flop that was really extreme should result in a fine. Refs are human and Players have become excellent actors(bitches) we should'nt blame the refs fully blame David Stern for allowing it to get this bad.

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    yea but thats where you start getting into the grey area of being able to fully police this shyt.
    if im james jones, im a scrub, i might not have a contract next season, 5k means alot to me , so i dont wanna flop. but if micki arrison (heat owner) comes and says, yo, dont worry bout the fine, i got you (under the table of course), my ass would be flopping all game cuz the owner is picking up the tab and i get in his good graces and can possibly get a good contract cuz the owner likes me.
    i think flops should be reviewable, during the game (lets say last 2 min of each quarter) and result in a tech, not a fine, but a tech cuz a single point could be the difference between a loss and win. then these guys would think twice before flopping (im looking at you manu and battier)


    Originally Posted by zshopa
    isnt a red card equivalent to a flagrant 2? i think fines is the way to go, just cuz the refs make a bad call, the games should be reviewed after and any flop that was really extreme should result in a fine. Refs are human and Players have become excellent actors(bitches) we should'nt blame the refs fully blame David Stern for allowing it to get this bad.

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    I think most charges are "flops". I've played a lot of ball and unless i want to fall, i'm usually not going down with my feet planted. A lot of NBA players are bigger and stronger then I am. Jones for example is a pretty athletic and strong guy. It would take a bigger guy like a STAT or Tyson, going hard, to really knock him off his feet like that.

    I think that the game is fine the way it is, we don't need yellow cards and such. Just call more blocking fouls then ****ty flopping charges and we're good. BTW. Jefferies took a "charge" in this game too and I stood up and said "great play giraffe" But it was also an "iffy" call. I just thought "That's a veteran play by a savy and smart player". I think JVG even commented on that too!

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    I dont think the charges are the problem, you're told to fall and get the call but the plays like James Jones falling on his ass dramatically become a problem.

    Chris Webber said he would take out charges lmao imagine that

    Reggie Miller would add a ref working the monitors to confirm calls like flops, remember the ref who called the Jones flop only seen the fall as he was watching Novak's feet to make sure it was a 3, if the additional ref was watching the play from the monitor he could overturn the call and give us back our 3

    There are a few ways to fix this, the NBA and NBPA need to get together and fix this

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    That call was terrible and was a game changer in my book. That being said, I don't know how you can police it. It's a "grey area" like was pointed out above. i think drawing a charge as an outta control player goes to the rim is one thing. That WWF overreaction from a bow or forearm to clear space is quite another. Reggie Miller was famous for those antics. He would crowd a guy on defense, then go flying ten feet if the guy made a move to create space. No place in the game for all that nonsense.

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    I cant stand breen. For a knicks guy He sure loves lebrons nutss. Id love to watch the game on msg tommorow, but I think im gunna take the breen-less announce team instead(plus msg hd isnt as good as tnt)

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    Originally Posted by metrocard
    I threw up in my mouth when i seen that.

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    Originally Posted by metrocard
    Next time LeBron tries that on one of the Knicks he should be flipped over in dedication to Ward.

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