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    Default How's this roster for next year?

    Assuming Lin is retained for a good portion of the MLE (probably all of it) and JR Smith, Novak and Fields all walk in free agency:

    5 - Chandler
    4 - STAT
    3 - Melo
    2 - Shump
    1 - Lin
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    5 - Marcus Cousin (best 7 footer out there no one's talking about)
    4 - Jorts (showed he can play, his option should be picked up)
    3 - DaJuan Summers (6'8"/240-ish strong/skilled SF/PF hybrid, good shooter, can't believe a team as bad as Detroit gave up on him; substantial upgrade over Fields in every facet of the game practically. Unfortunate because I still like Fields--he's just regressed so badly this year for some reason. We really need to think about upgrading his spot out on the wing)
    2 - Sylven Landesberg (6'6" skilled, great slasher, improved shooter, indications are that he's made some nice strides overall playing in Israel)
    1 - Matt Janning (6'4" skilled PG/SG, reminds me of Goran Dragic/Bulls version of Kirk Hinrich)
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    5 - Jerome Jordan (D-League assignment likely, I might look to moving him for a future pick, maybe packaged w/TD); maybe look into stealing Greg Stiemsma away from the Celts if the price is right)
    4 - Jeff Adrien (rebounding, dirty work, toughness, enforcer)
    3 - Ryan Wittman (attempting to replace Novak's pure 3-pt stroke)
    2 - 2nd round pick - 6'6" SG Chris Johnson (Dayton); 6'6" SG Kim English (Mizzou); sign PG/SG Willie Warren?
    1 - Toney Douglas (who I'd look to move for a future pick); maybe make a run at Patty Mills if he declines his $1M player option with the Spurs or look into signing Ben Hansbrough

    They'll probably look into signing a couple of vets but I don't see how -- cap will be over $61M to kick off the off-season. Plus with Chandler, STAT and Melo there's enough of a vet presence and enough leadership at the top..And not only that but next year's FA crop isn't that impressive anyway to say the least...Even if the cap room is there somehow, why overpay for role players just to say you signed a veteran?? I think we should piece it together with young/dynamic minimum level signings/acquisitions which we can exceed the cap in order to do. I'd love to go to war with this club -- I think this roster is a better, deeper team than we have right now to be perfectly honest with you. We're gonna have some nice options provided we look in the right places.
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    We're not going anywhere with Amar'e in the lineup.

    This is what you do:

    Amar'e to Timberwolves for Pekovic, Beasley, and Darko as filler.

    They get a dunk shot scorer in Amar'e to pair with the jumpshot Kevin Love and keep Kevin Love's rebounding.

    Rubio has Amar'e and Love to dish to.

    Knicks get Pekovic who is an animal getting better everyday. He'll bang for us where Amar'e can't plus he'll get his in the dirty way so there will be no conflict between Pekovic and Melo.

    Beas is Beas, gives us a great option off the bench as 6th man, dunk shot all day.

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    Here's My Current Off-Season Wishlist

    Stoudemire/Lin/Fields to Brooklyn for Williams(S&T)/Wallace- Unlikely but perfect for both teams, we get that ****ty Lin fan base out of the Garden, STAT stays close to where he just moved too, Fields is a kicker

    Re-Sign JR Smith, Steve Novak, Dan Gadzuric

    Buy a Late 1st Rounder- Draft (1)Arnett Moultrie 6'10 230 True PF(Jermaine O'Neal type) (2)Tyshawn Taylor 6'3 180 Combo PG off the bench(I think he's better than Mario Chalmers, Chauncey Billups type of player)

    Vet Signing- CJ Miles

    Starting 5
    C- Tyson Chandler
    F- Carmelo Anthony
    F- Gerald Wallace
    G- Iman Shumpert
    G- Deron Williams

    This allows Melo to stay in his comfort zone, we add a glue guy in Wallace to the starting 5 who still helps our defense, Deron is a better version of Billups, more athletic great 2nd option. Shumpert gets a lot of open looks, hopefully him and H20 are working all summer together

    Bench
    G- JR Smith
    F- Steve Novak
    F- Arnett Moultrie
    F- CJ Miles
    G- Tyshawn Taylor
    C- Dan Gadzuric
    G- Toney Douglas
    F- Josh Harrellson
    C- Jerome Jordan

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    We don't share the same view on Amar'e. Personally, I love the guy, shortcomings and all (not a great rebounder, he's might be a little injury prone now, etc.)...To me, this dude decided to come here when other douche-bags thumbed their noses up at us. I know we paid him big bucks when the Suns & no one else would but still man. It says a lot to me. And not only did he come here, but he came here and EMBRACED the city and everything that goes with it..He was PHENOMENAL last year for us. He single-handedly got this franchise turned around. And this year, true he was playing subpar for him but right before he got hurt, I thought he was finally playing at top performance again. Last night he showed a lot of rust but physically, I thought he looked good. So I think we're gonna be OK. I want him to succeed here and I think with Melo, Ty, Lin and a few smart low cost/high yield aquisitions, I think he can. We just have to hope and pray that his body (specifically his back now) holds up. Putting on the extra bounds in the off-season didn't help matters..We saw that as soon as he lost 10 lbs or so and got back down to 245, 250 lbs. he was much more light on his feet, much quicker & more explosive.

    That trade's not terrible btw. I don't do it for reasons stated and I don't think Minny or any team for that matter will touch Amar'e at his salary and with his injury history (esp. with the back problems in back to back yrs) but it's not a bad trade at all. I feel ya on Nikola Pekovic -- dude's big, tough and he can ball. And Beasley's got talent. I just don't think Minny's in a position to go all in on a player like Amar'e. There's a lot of risk with him. Would they assume that risk? I doubt it...The more I think about that trade, the better it sounds (I like how those players would fit with Melo) but as enticing as it sounds, I really wanna gut this out and win one with Amar'e. Flawed thinking maybe but it's how I feel.
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    Minny does the trade because Amar'e can put them over the top, they're in a position where they have a strong foundation and they need that one veteran that will come in and dunk, a guy that's won games in the league.

    If I'm Minny I do that deal all day: Amar'e for Pekovic Milicic and Beas. Then you hire D'Antoni and that's a contender in Minny next year.

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    I think after this year Amar'e has 3 years left, it wouldn't be the craziest risk for Minny.

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    I know how much people like to suggest trading Stat or Melo when the going gets tough, but neither one of them is being traded anytime soon. Lets not forgot the first few games after Woodson took the reigns, the team was wrecking everyone with our full lineup. Averaging some ridiculous number like, 20 point wins for a 6 or 7 game stretch. Lets give our starting 5 an entire season together for once. Too many new faces every year. I want to see these guys gel. We're talented and if we play to our talent level we can be a top 3 team in the East no doubt.

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    Originally Posted by Jinki£s
    I know how much people like to suggest trading Stat or Melo when the going gets tough, but neither one of them is being traded anytime soon. Lets not forgot the first few games after Woodson took the reigns, the team was wrecking everyone with our full lineup. Averaging some ridiculous number like, 20 point wins for a 6 or 7 game stretch. Lets give our starting 5 an entire season together for once. Too many new faces every year. I want to see these guys gel. We're talented and if we play to our talent level we can be a top 3 team in the East no doubt.
    That's a classic mistake, thinking it will work out because you put some time in with Amar'e. But if we look at it without emotion, it's not going to work with Amar'e and Melo.

    I think in the old days we made moves to make moves, but that doesn't mean that you don't do a move right now if it will improve your team.

    Pekovic is a no-brainer plus you got Beas, and he's perfect for 6th man because JR will walk.

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    You see how Denver cut their losses with Nene? That was smart, because they admitted their mistake and solved the problem at the root of the bud.

    Amar'e is a mistake at this point, we have to unload him asap. But he works for a team like Minny.

    Minny is a team deep on young talent but they do not have the flashy-balls veteran. He gives them an edge they're missing. It's exactly what they need. Because let's face it, Love is on year 3 now, or 4? and they haven't made the playoffs.

    You go for it if you're Minny, can't keep stockpiling talent forever.

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    Originally Posted by CA7
    Here's My Current Off-Season Wishlist

    Stoudemire/Lin/Fields to Brooklyn for Williams(S&T)/Wallace- Unlikely but perfect for both teams, we get that ****ty Lin fan base out of the Garden, STAT stays close to where he just moved too, Fields is a kicker

    Re-Sign JR Smith, Steve Novak, Dan Gadzuric

    Buy a Late 1st Rounder- Draft (1)Arnett Moultrie 6'10 230 True PF(Jermaine O'Neal type) (2)Tyshawn Taylor 6'3 180 Combo PG off the bench(I think he's better than Mario Chalmers, Chauncey Billups type of player)

    Vet Signing- CJ Miles

    Starting 5
    C- Tyson Chandler
    F- Carmelo Anthony
    F- Gerald Wallace
    G- Iman Shumpert
    G- Deron Williams

    This allows Melo to stay in his comfort zone, we add a glue guy in Wallace to the starting 5 who still helps our defense, Deron is a better version of Billups, more athletic great 2nd option. Shumpert gets a lot of open looks, hopefully him and H20 are working all summer together

    Bench
    G- JR Smith
    F- Steve Novak
    F- Arnett Moultrie
    F- CJ Miles
    G- Tyshawn Taylor
    C- Dan Gadzuric
    G- Toney Douglas
    F- Josh Harrellson
    C- Jerome Jordan
    Lin will never be moved, bank on that. Just like Houston never dealt Yao, if you're an NBA team it's too good to be true to have Lin. Lin is cash money, he will finish his career in New York no matter how much cash money he costs.

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    Originally Posted by orangeblobman
    Lin will never be moved, bank on that. Just like Houston never dealt Yao, if you're an NBA team it's too good to be true to have Lin. Lin is cash money, he will finish his career in New York no matter how much cash money he costs.
    yea seriously... all Dolan sees when he looks at Lin is a big fat $$$$$ sign.. nothing else.

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    Originally Posted by CA7
    ...we get that ****ty Lin fan base out of the Garden...
    What is THAT supposed to mean??!

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    Originally Posted by Newbie
    What is THAT supposed to mean??!

    It means he likes sucking Melo's dick. Melo will never take the Knicks to the final by himself, let alone win a championship. He is Kobe without the killer instinct. He gives you 25pts and nothing else.

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    Originally Posted by Den318
    It means he likes sucking Melo's dick. Melo will never take the Knicks to the final by himself, let alone win a championship. He is Kobe without the killer instinct. He gives you 25pts and nothing else.


    Oh, my!

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    Well, all I want to say is that it's one thing not
    to care for a particular player, but to call their
    fan base "****ty", well is just plain ****TY!!

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