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    Originally Posted by knicksin60
    I'm sorry to go off topic but, did anyone see the move Isiah pulled off for the NY Knicks?
    not really thats actually relevant because Knicks fans should have that on theyre minds as the seconds close down on this season. if the baseball player Josh Hamilton is given many chances even after he screws up with booze and drugs, to say Zeke shouldn't be allowed another fair chance is being a hypocrite. look how hated and looked down Jeffries was the first time as a knick, not that bad now.

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    Originally Posted by iSaYughh
    You really think we think this is about "fashion"? Hah!

    I really don't care if Amare spends his every waking, non-playing hour pondering what color of pink to mach his suspenders too!

    This is the equivalent of Derek Jeter pimping his ass out, and building up his "brand" (ah, yes, Amare and his love for his "brand", more on this later) and wallet.....by teaming up to design and spread Boston Red Sox paraphenalia!

    Dude, saying that this designer "did most of the work"? Like that absolves Stoudemire in *any* way! Of course she did most of the work -- Amare is a ****ing fool, and ostensibly an NBA power forward for the NY Knicks. I have no doubt that he *doesn't* possess the actual abilities of an actual renaissance man to dabble in the arts and excel!

    This is so simple....a so-called New York Knick superstar, who constantly *talks* up about being a true Knick, and being all about the Knicks and the Knicks winning.....TEAMED UP to build a piece of clothing, celebrating an arch-rival (and yes, teaming up is possibly even *worse* than him actually having the ability to design some t-shirt that he was actually able to get a buyer for).

    This ****ing fraud walks on water to pull a stunt like this, and not be mercilessly flamed and called out.

    Can you imagine Paul Pierce TEAMING UP to HELP build a New York Knick shirt, worn by New York Knick fans...... And to be worn by LaLa, while Melo beasts down Pierces and other Celtics' throats!

    This isn't just absolute stupidity that he would let this happen (and make it for MIA!), or that he is a fraud of a ****ing Knick who speaks more double-speak than a character from Animal Farm...it's a complete combination of the two.

    It shows such a lack of class, awareness, and dignity that it's nearly mind-boggling. And when you factor *this* into everything else surrounding this fool and his fraudulent politiking to the media, and gimp defense and game? Hah...This is the true penultimate to him just telling NY Knick fans to suck his dick while he rides out the rest of his already-bloated, 20M/year deal.
    So because people in Miami are willing to give Amare money to buy a shirt he "designed", Amare shouldn't take it?

    I don't buy that this is a thing. LeBron had NY-themed shoes. It really bothers me in no way.

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    Originally Posted by KBlack25
    Really you guys are talking about fashion?

    I am pretty sure I know exactly how this went down:

    - Designer was looking for an NBA player to be the $ behind her NBA-centric designs

    - Designer found Amare or his agent, gave a pitch about it being a business opportunity

    - Amare put his $ behind the project in exchange for a split of the proceeds once he was entirely recouped, and got a creative credit

    Notice they say "Designer TEAMED UP with Amare...". I guarantee she did most of the work.
    Incorrect.......Amare would meet with Rachel Roy and her design team...he was more involved then just being a name.....

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    Originally Posted by skisloper
    Incorrect.......Amare would meet with Rachel Roy and her design team...he was more involved then just being a name.....
    Source?

    Even if it's the case, I don't find it to be worth discussing. Does not bother me at all. Certainly not as much as his play recently

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    Originally Posted by KBlack25
    So because people in Miami are willing to give Amare money to buy a shirt he "designed", Amare shouldn't take it?

    I don't buy that this is a thing. LeBron had NY-themed shoes. It really bothers me in no way.
    Dude, Amare is making 20M a year...he's been making bank for the past decade. He has a billion big time sponsors, and other opportunities. If he really wanted to get involved with fashion....you think this was his only opportunity to collaborate like this? Miami Heat? Not that I'm one to say how much somehow should make, or that they've made "enough"....but there is no way Amare did this for the money -- he did it because he really wanted to. If greed was involved, I'd find it more understandable, actually!

    I just really don't want an athlete from a team I root for, pay money to, follow.....to be spending his free time teaming up and collaborating to design team gear and fashion apparel for rival franchises.

    I just find it bush league, especially considering how much he talks -- and how little he actually walks.

    His play is what I'm more concerned about, like you; but stuff like this just adds insult to injury.

    Just no way Paul Pierce, Jeter, or really most prideful athletes for franchises would get caught in a spot like this.

    Honestly, this is why I find myself getting more and more into hockey. A bench player wouldn't be caught dead in a spot like this.

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    Default What Is This Nonsense!

    this thread is utterly ridiculous to read, if most of you fans can take your knick blinders off for a sec and put on your business hat many of you would realize that what he is doing is to ensure that he becomes a wealthy man instead of a "typical broke athlete has been" it solidifies his future for himself and family and opens other doors way after his playing days are over. So long as he puts the time in to improve himself during the offseason and dedicate to his condition what is the problem.

    Don't sit up here and act like you wouldn't want to capitalize on all the fair-weather bandwagon heat fans ready to buy anything with their logo on it so what? U mad because you didn't come up with idea yourself?!?

    I dont understand the logic of not taking advantage of an opportunity available to you because your loyal to the team? The same team the feels if your not preforming up to par they will trade you ass and cut their losses. There is no loyalty in sports when it comes to business...most of you posters are extremely intelligent I'm sure you can figure it out. I would rather you pimp yourself than let let someone else do it for you *cough* dolan pippin Linsanity to the fullest *cough*

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    Originally Posted by iSaYughh
    Dude, Amare is making 20M a year...he's been making bank for the past decade. He has a billion big time sponsors, and other opportunities. If he really wanted to get involved with fashion....you think this was his only opportunity to collaborate like this? Miami Heat? Not that I'm one to say how much somehow should make, or that they've made "enough"....but there is no way Amare did this for the money -- he did it because he really wanted to. If greed was involved, I'd find it more understandable, actually!

    I just really don't want an athlete from a team I root for, pay money to, follow.....to be spending his free time teaming up and collaborating to design team gear and fashion apparel for rival franchises.

    I just find it bush league, especially considering how much he talks -- and how little he actually walks.

    His play is what I'm more concerned about, like you; but stuff like this just adds insult to injury.

    Just no way Paul Pierce, Jeter, or really most prideful athletes for franchises would get caught in a spot like this.

    Honestly, this is why I find myself getting more and more into hockey. A bench player wouldn't be caught dead in a spot like this.
    Really when Jeter is trying to sell you razors and a Ford Car every other day SMH Bush league OOOAKAYY!!!

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    Originally Posted by WeReady
    this thread is utterly ridiculous to read, if most of you fans can take your knick blinders off for a sec and put on your business hat many of you would realize that what he is doing is to ensure that he becomes a wealthy man instead of a "typical broke athlete has been" it solidifies his future for himself and family and opens other doors way after his playing days are over. So long as he puts the time in to improve himself during the offseason and dedicate to his condition what is the problem.

    Don't sit up here and act like you wouldn't want to capitalize on all the fair-weather bandwagon heat fans ready to buy anything with their logo on it so what? U mad because you didn't come up with idea yourself?!?

    I dont understand the logic of not taking advantage of an opportunity available to you because your loyal to the team? The same team the feels if your not preforming up to par they will trade you ass and cut their losses. There is no loyalty in sports when it comes to business...most of you posters are extremely intelligent I'm sure you can figure it out. I would rather you pimp yourself than let let someone else do it for you *cough* dolan pippin Linsanity to the fullest *cough*
    What the?

    Amar'e made 100$ million in salary in his career already.

    He needs to do this to make sure he doesn't end up broke?

    He shouldn't end up broke off just one NBA season. Get real.

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    Originally Posted by orangeblobman
    What the?

    Amar'e made 100$ million in salary in his career already.

    He needs to do this to make sure he doesn't end up broke?

    He shouldn't end up broke off just one NBA season. Get real.
    you know how many nba players are broke after their playing days are over example: antoine walker

    do you know how much they pay agents business managers, accountants, posse, greedy family, baby mommas girlfriends an lord know who else wants a piece of the pie

    When your presented with opportunities to take advantage to build your wealth you wouldn't take it ? This is America you need to capitalize on everything thrown your way if not someone else will

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    Originally Posted by WeReady
    you know how many nba players are broke after their playing days are over example: antoine walker

    do you know how much they pay agents business managers, accountants, posse, greedy family, baby mommas girlfriends an lord know who else wants a piece of the pie

    When your presented with opportunities to take advantage to build your wealth you wouldn't take it ? This is America you need to capitalize on everything thrown your way if not someone else will
    That makes no sense.

    They're broke because they spend all their money on stupid ****. If they made more money, that would be gone too.

    If Walker made more cash, he would still be broke, because he would spend it all regardless.

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    so you used to be an accountant for nba players so you have the inside track to what they typically spend and what their expenses are? OkAY

    I don't get what you don't understand , by your logic basketball should be his world 24/7 with no outside opportunities. everyone should be like a antoine walker and waste their riches instead of building their wealth like Jordan OkAy

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    Originally Posted by WeReady
    so you used to be an accountant for nba players so you have the inside track to what they typically spend and what their expenses are? OkAY

    I don't get what you don't understand , by your logic basketball should be his world 24/7 with no outside opportunities. everyone should be like a antoine walker and waste their riches instead of building their wealth like Jordan OkAy
    I never said that.

    I just said that he shouldn't be going broke with 100$m earned up to this point in his career.

    And I don't need to be an accountant to tell you that if you went broke after making money like Walker, you spent your money on stupid ****.

    It's called living within your means.

    There is no reason why anyone who made as much money as Walker and Amar'e should ever go broke. Ever.

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    Originally Posted by WeReady
    Really when Jeter is trying to sell you razors and a Ford Car every other day SMH Bush league OOOAKAYY!!!
    Please. Try to think before you post a response as poor as this. It denigrates the forum -- at least be funny if you aren't going to make a decent point.

    Is Jeter collaborating with designers and teaming up to promote Red Sox paraphernalia? Who gives a **** if he promotes Ford. Who would give a **** if Stoudemire promoted Ford?

    It's painful I have to point this out to you directly: the issue isn't Stoudemire making money by promoting stuff, it is that he teamed up to design GOODS PROMOTING THE MIAMI HEAT. Dwayne Wade's woman is decked out in that **** while Wade rapes our team outta the playoffs.

    Also, again for the peanut gallery (you), it would even be more understandable if Stoudemire was actually part of some big "Ford Car" level of a promotion to make huge bank, and in the process he sold his NYK pride to celebrate and promote the Miami Heat (or some other rival). At least then he could just be easily lumped into the category like so many athletes, as a greedy mofo where their team and pride for their team's city doesn't mean much.

    Except this isn't even the case, and he reaches a level of disgrace and duplicity to the NYK that I haven't seen in a while from a player: the biggest fraud in NYC sports. A man who waxes perfectly like a politician about NYC pride, and bringing NYC titles, and being all about being a Knick and restoring dignity to NYC....

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    Originally Posted by WeReady
    you know how many nba players are broke after their playing days are over example: antoine walker

    do you know how much they pay agents business managers, accountants, posse, greedy family, baby mommas girlfriends an lord know who else wants a piece of the pie

    When your presented with opportunities to take advantage to build your wealth you wouldn't take it ? This is America you need to capitalize on everything thrown your way if not someone else will
    I'm sure Antoine Walker cries his ass to sleep every night, just wishing he made a few hundred extra K by promoting gear for rival teams of whomever he was playing for. Surely, he wouldn't be broke now!

    edit -- people like Walker, Mike Tyson, Random Lotto Winner....it has zero to do with how much money they ever have, or ever coulda had. Stoudemire has a million ****ing offers a day to capitalize on, of a million different varieties. He chose this.

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    Originally Posted by WeReady
    you know how many nba players are broke after their playing days are over example: antoine walker

    do you know how much they pay agents business managers, accountants, posse, greedy family, baby mommas girlfriends an lord know who else wants a piece of the pie

    When your presented with opportunities to take advantage to build your wealth you wouldn't take it ? This is America you need to capitalize on everything thrown your way if not someone else will
    Most of the NBA players who went broke because they spent their money unwisely like a lot of lottery winners. Period.

    Yes. They paid a lot to their agents, business mangers, accountants,.....
    But that would never be the reason they went broke. You knew that yourself right?

    But I agree with you that there's nothing wrong with grabing opportunities thrown to them at the right time.

    However, investing in business that designing shirts for Miami Heat seemed a little exaggerating. Unless that business meant to design shirts for all NBA teams.


    Edit: most of the NBA players who had made tons of money and went broke in the end.
    Last edited by rogeryy; May 02, 2012 at 07:25. Reason: to describe more clearly

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