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Why Sixers do this trade:
They enquired about Amare earlier in the season and are dying to get a star back in Philly. It is well known management knows Iggy isn't the answer there and Iggy has been in many trade rumours before. Plus Lou Williams is expected to bounce at the end of the season (public comments by Iggy, and will probably recieve a bigger contract in Brooklyn, etc). Subesquently they will need more offensive firepower and Spencer Hawes contract expires at the end of the year. Elton Brand only has 1 more year on his bloated contract and before you go on with the "Stats contract is uninsured no one will want it bull****", him on the team will sell more tickets, jerseys etc and pay off his salary in revenue in the first season or two.
Why Knicks do this trade:
Obviously getting rid of STAT's contract is a massive plus but we get a brilliant perimeter defender in Iggy. Combined with Shump we would have the best perimeter defense in the league and become an elite overall defensive team. I suggest moving Melo to the 4 spot as he is proven to thrive there and it creates a mismatch in our favour. Also giving us a very athletic team. This team as constructed is a better version of the April team we had with Melo at the 4 and STAT and Lin out, except Lin's back and we replace Fields with Iggy.
Giving us a lineup of:
Giving them a lineup of:
The combination of the best perimeter defenders in the game will give us a serious 1-2 punch against the likes of Wade, Westbrook, Rose and CP3. Carmelo and Lin are very capable scorers still giving us enough firepower in games and Iggy would be a great 2nd/3rd option. With Tyson becoming the primary beneficiary of the pick and roll and no worrying about getting STAT his touches I would think it would be reasonable to see him averaging 13-15ppg.
** Bonus incentives for this trade.
1. Vucevic may prove to be a decent and legitimate backup behind Chandler, and a young center like him will be very tradeable should we not require his services.
2. Iggy is an underrated playmaker and ball handler, this gives us 4, yes four players in the starting lineup capable of facilitating the offense and creating their own shot.
3. Better salary space allows us to retain Novak, Fields etc.
Thoughts? Feel free to shoot me down, all I ask is that you give me decent feedback and reveal why.
Last edited by 21 Shump Street; May 01, 2012 at 22:21.
"The Knicks are back" - Amare
Last edited by Paul1355; May 02, 2012 at 00:29.
"The Knicks are back" - Amare
I find it insane that Amar'e Stoudemire is going to get paid over $400,000 dollars for punching a glass case to a fire extinguisher. He doesn't deserve to get paid for games 3 or 4. His trade value is zero. I don't think anyone wants him. If the Knicks can trade him for Elton Brand or Drew Gooden, I'd go for it.
I would trade Amare for anything if a team would take him.
Heck I would trade him for a sandwich!
No team in their right mind would take him.
(Two teams missing from your list who would want him if he was healthy and cheaper - Suns and Denver)
I think the only team that would take him would be the bobcats..
He would be brought in instead of Diaw whom they traded..
You guys are F;in crazy!!!!!!!!!!!
He is owed 60 million dollars which ZERO of it insured.......
It was not insured due to the problems with his knees....well guess what now Amare has major issues with his back 2 seasons in a row...
why would any team roll the dice for 60 million dollars ???????
Igoudala is like a top 20 player and a top 3-5 SF...and one of the ball all around players in the game...We'll have to give up Shumpert if we want Iggy, who's much better than STAT right now.
We're better off trading with the Bobcats who need scoring desperately
The sixers have tried to trade for Amare before and would likely do it now. They still have their amnesty and would likely use it on brand or keep brand for next season and have the amnesty in the wings for Amare for the 2 seasons after Brand comes off the books.
They admitted that they tried to trade for Amare during the last losing streak and he would fit into what they're trying to do on offense. They also want a lead scorer. I don't know how the salaries match but IF and I mean IF the Knicks made the Amare trade it would likely be with the Sixers.
Iggy on the flip would work well with Woodson due to his defense and I don't know who else could be in the trade due to salary matching.
Also on the flip and irresponsible as Amare is for injuring himself the Knicks need to think long and hard before they pull that trigger. ZBO was kicked out of town and we all know in hindsight that was a bad move. The Knicks would need to be pretty confidant that moving Amare wouldn't be looked back as being foolish either.
Why would Philly trade Iggy? Dude's one of the best defenders in the league... but if did, I'd welcome him with open arms.
come one guys,
he is simply un-tradeable until his final year of contract
Keep in mind if the beat the bulls they inherit there playoff schedule and then face the winners of magic/pacers if they move to the ECF I could see them sitting by and not making any moves even though they would be there by a fluke. However if they don't make noise then they have no reason to not trade for Amare. They can simply amnesty brand (who normally is a lot worse than Amare and earns 17 mil a year) and upgrade their PF position with a dominant scorer.