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    Originally Posted by CA7
    agreed, we're fine with Woodson and I know what a lot of our problems are, the 1st is consistency not only on the court but personnel, if we keep switching players and coaches we'll never reach our potential, the Heat added 2 role players, the Knicks added, 10 new guys if my count is right(Anthony, Stoudemire, Fields and Jeffries were the only rotation guys who played last year), Toney doesn't play and we added Lin, Smith, Shumpert, Novak, Harrellson, Jordan, Chandler, Davis, Bibby and Gadzuric

    we have a core now lets establish our identity and get the ball rollin
    Haha. I just posted the same thing in another thread...

    I agree.

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    Originally Posted by iSaYughh
    True. There's a lot to be said for consistency too. I need to lay off Woodson some myself and not refer my angers with elements of this franchise onto him.

    I guess if Jackson will come he comes. But outside of that, I'd have to agree n say absolutely no to anyone else; and give Woodson a legit chance, let him stay, and let's see what he can do with a full off season of finally a legit roster that stays together.

    If by all-star break things look super whack, maybe we have to find a new coach. But honestly, at that pt, we will know our problems are much deeper than the coach.
    if a full training camp doesn't work I'm all for blowing it up and starting from scratch ala OKC

    Originally Posted by Real NY Baller
    Haha. I just posted the same thing in another thread...

    I agree.
    lol its the truth dude, when's the last time the Knicks had a consistent core and identity.......2001 maybe

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    Originally Posted by CA7
    agreed, we're fine with Woodson and I know what a lot of our problems are, the 1st is consistency not only on the court but personnel, if we keep switching players and coaches we'll never reach our potential, the Heat added 2 role players, the Knicks added, 10 new guys if my count is right(Anthony, Stoudemire, Fields and Jeffries were the only rotation guys who played last year), Toney doesn't play and we added Lin, Smith, Shumpert, Novak, Harrellson, Jordan, Chandler, Davis, Bibby and Gadzuric

    we have a core now lets establish our identity and get the ball rollin
    Simple question:
    If you could have Phil Jackson sign a 3 year deal or Woodson who would you want ?

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    Originally Posted by CA7
    if a full training camp doesn't work I'm all for blowing it up and starting from scratch ala OKC



    lol its the truth dude, when's the last time the Knicks had a consistent core and identity.......2001 maybe
    We already do not have our SG for Training camp....But it will be fun to see a starting 5 of Lin, Shump, Melo, Stat and CHandler.....even more fun if PHIL JACKSON IS THE COACH

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    Originally Posted by skisloper
    Simple question:
    If you could have Phil Jackson sign a 3 year deal or Woodson who would you want ?
    Lets see Melo is 27 and will be 28 on the 29th, so having Phil for 3 years means we'll have him until Melo is 31 maybe the last year he's in his Prime Prime, if Phil comes I want him to bring a legit assistant someone who will take over after him but will have a large role while he's here so the players become comfortable in the system. If we get Phil and then add a different coach with a new system then NO

    Phil Jackson for 3 years means at least 3 ECF and at least a finals appearance and a potential Championship

    So if he brings a legit assistant then I'm down

    Originally Posted by skisloper
    We already do not have our SG for Training camp....But it will be fun to see a starting 5 of Lin, Shump, Melo, Stat and CHandler.....even more fun if PHIL JACKSON IS THE COACH
    Shumpert will be back the earliest November(unlikely) and latest January, but at least we have a core starting 5 now we gotta lock up the supporting cast.

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    Originally Posted by CA7
    Lets see Melo is 27 and will be 28 on the 29th, so having Phil for 3 years means we'll have him until Melo is 31 maybe the last year he's in his Prime Prime, if Phil comes I want him to bring a legit assistant someone who will take over after him but will have a large role while he's here so the players become comfortable in the system. If we get Phil and then add a different coach with a new system then NO

    Phil Jackson for 3 years means at least 3 ECF and at least a finals appearance and a potential Championship

    So if he brings a legit assistant then I'm down



    Shumpert will be back the earliest November(unlikely) and latest January, but at least we have a core starting 5 now we gotta lock up the supporting cast.
    I only picked 3 years because that when our big 3 contracts expire but I imagine it will be a 4 year deal with a 35-40 million price tag.

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    If we can strike gold and acquire Phil Jackson, then im all for it

    But

    If we cant, i wouldn't mind giving Woodson more time. Only because he's had such little time to work with our players and it's not completely fair to judge him based off this series with half the roaster injured
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    I never thought Jax would come here. But I've changed my mind.

    This would actually have real legacy (and pride) implications for him.

    Unlike the Lakeshow....despite us being talented, nobody actually expects us to win and be legit. We're still cast in the shadows of the Dark Ages of the NYK empire.

    Jackson coming, and making a winner out of us, would cement his legacy firmly above pretty much any coach in NBA history, IMHO. And there would be no counter-arguments anymore about just winning with well-oiled, HOF juggernauts who were expected to win (a la Cashman winning chips with the Yanks, but to a lesser degree).

    I just don't know if anybody would want to work with Dolan. Idk.....Unless you needed the $ jump (which Jax doesnt).

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    I don't think we get Phil Jackson to be honest.

    I think Dolan will go after another big name though, and it wouldn't shock me if John Calipari was standing on our sidelines next year.

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    It would be a waste of time b/c he is to old and would only coach for about two years.I want a coach that will be hear for a while and good ofcourse.

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    Originally Posted by KBlack25
    I don't think we get Phil Jackson to be honest.

    I think Dolan will go after another big name though, and it wouldn't shock me if John Calipari was standing on our sidelines next year.
    Idk why Calipari would come either...but ****, many a prey have fallen for the Dolan paycheck combined with big city prospects and basketball lure of MSG.

    Call me crazy, but I think it's Jackson or Woodson. When Dolan and MDA beefed and split, the centerpiece was Melo -- and Woodson, a natural, copacetic fit with Melo, became coach as result. Melo has also played extremely well since Woodson took over. Dolan wants, more than anything, for Melo to play extremely well.

    *Dolan stuck his paws into the deal for Melo and cemented his rep further as a horrible owner to work under.

    *Dolan parted ways with Walsh, a pseudo-NYK savior who most liked, again, with circumstances surrounding Melo.

    *Dolan then parted ways with another high-profile coach, again, with circumstances directly surrounding Melo.

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    Dolan is a type of dude who can damage your reputation for good .... oh yeah he pays u well but who wants all the goddam headaches and sh1t that comes with dealing with Dolan...

    Dolan destroys his front office continuously and lets the media and dumbasses have all the say in matters concerning the future of the team.
    He gives no fuok about winning, the Knicks team name by itself earns enough dough to keep him happy...

    Imagine a team like Spurs letting Popovich go for some dumb reasons.
    If Pops was here he'd be fired by Dolan somehow..

    PJ aka the Zen Master understands this ish.

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    i don't think Phil Jackson would change this team that much, you will still have the same problems and Woody never had Lin healthy for a while

    Davis is a huge disappointment and washed up

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    Originally Posted by Paul1355
    i don't think Phil Jackson would change this team that much, you will still have the same problems and Woody never had Lin healthy for a while

    Davis is a huge disappointment and washed up
    no surprise at all,
    he is an amnesty waive for godssake

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    Originally Posted by Real NY Baller
    I like what he's done. Injuries hurt us this year. I like Woodson because he is a no nonsense coach. He preaches Defense and holds everyone accountable. Not all coaches do this. I don't think there is a better coach (thats available) for this group of guys. I can't blame him for the way we are being treated in the post season, we are suffering because we are lacking depth. If we had a full healthy roster and still received these results...I'll have no prob shopping around.

    I too, like what Woody's done during the regular season, annnnnd I dont see a better headcoach available this offseason. I understand "interim" Woody's decision to give the helm of the offense to Melo & JR to run in a losing postseason series. I dont like it, but I do understand it.

    Knicks fans need to get their mind off of Phil Jackson & Sloan, they are executive material headcoach who will not accept a 3rd tier G.M. Grunwald pick of litter FA he signed from the bottom of the market to fill the roster.

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