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    Originally Posted by RunningJumper
    How is Lin better than Nash overall?
    Defense and Youth. Youth = Endurance. Nash is not getting old, he's already old.

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    Originally Posted by Ghostowl
    Defense and Youth. Youth = Endurance. Nash is not getting old, he's already old.
    I've been living in Phx..... I've seen Steve Nash play a lot of games........

    Jeremy Lin's "D" is light years ahead of Nash. (The reason why I think Nash has never been able to win a title.) To give you an idea, Lin had three blocked shots in the game in Chicago which Derrick Rose aggravated his groin injury. (The injury occurred on one of Lin's blocks.) Nash never had three blocked shots in a game in his entire career!!

    Lin has also a five steal game, which Nash achieved only once in his career. Nash's career has spanned 16 years.

    Lin also sets screens and boxes out for rebounds. A lot more active away from the ball.

    I personally think Steve Nash was overrated because he never really did much outside the statistical realm. He never was a good defender and always played passive without the ball. (I don't recall Nash ever diving for a loose ball or making a hustle play. Not exactly Rajon Rondo...... Could be why Nash has been able to last a long time.) Jeremy Lin on the other hand will run through back screens, and be the finisher as well as the facilitator.

    Whoever gets Steve Nash next season will marvel at his assist numbers, but scratch their heads over why the team doesn't win.

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    Originally Posted by tkrieger
    I've been living in Phx..... I've seen Steve Nash play a lot of games........

    Jeremy Lin's "D" is light years ahead of Nash. (The reason why I think Nash has never been able to win a title.) To give you an idea, Lin had three blocked shots in the game in Chicago which Derrick Rose aggravated his groin injury. (The injury occurred on one of Lin's blocks.) Nash never had three blocked shots in a game in his entire career!!

    Lin has also a five steal game, which Nash achieved only once in his career. Nash's career has spanned 16 years.

    Lin also sets screens and boxes out for rebounds. A lot more active away from the ball.

    I personally think Steve Nash was overrated because he never really did much outside the statistical realm. He never was a good defender and always played passive without the ball. (I don't recall Nash ever diving for a loose ball or making a hustle play. Not exactly Rajon Rondo...... Could be why Nash has been able to last a long time.) Jeremy Lin on the other hand will run through back screens, and be the finisher as well as the facilitator.

    Whoever gets Steve Nash next season will marvel at his assist numbers, but scratch their heads over why the team doesn't win.
    Then how do you explain the Suns' amount of wins since Stoudemire left? I've watched a lot of Suns games on League Pass, and I've seen him amazingly keep his team in games.

    I like Lin, but he hasn't proven to be anywhere near Nash's level. In fact Nash is better than anyone on offense on our team, maybe even Melo.

    Youth? Lin was couldn't even play in the Playoffs, Nash is always in condition to play, and at a high level.

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    Originally Posted by Ghostowl
    Offensively: Chris Paul > Rondo > Nash > Lin

    Overall: Chris Paul > Rondo > Lin > Nash

    Before the fanboys get offended, I'm not saying Lin and Nash are bad. I'm just saying Chris Paul is pretty much at the top and so is Rondo
    Nash is pretty near the bottom of the list because of his defense
    do u genuinely believe this?

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    Listen you roll with all 3 this year. They finally get their offseason together, they got the coach "they" wanted. Melo and Amare should have some damn motivation after the playoff debacle. So I say we roll with this team this year. If the results remain the same, then its time to call it....

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    I agree.

    What do all the teams that managed to make it to the Conference Finals have in common?

    They have a core group of players that has not changed over the past 2 years.

    The Knicks cannot say that, and until they give their team more than a year to figure things out, they'll always be a first-round exit. When it comes to the playoffs, continuity in terms of roster and coaching is just as important as talent level.

    I would rather have Nash than Lin at this point, but I do not think that is a realistic idea. Nash is by far the better player - his shortcomings on defense compared to Lin's are not as alarming as the fact that he is a far far better offensive player than Jeremy Lin will ever be. Jeremy Lin cannot run an offense like Nash does. Jeremy Lin cannot shoot like Nash does. Nash is both the best passer and the best shooter in the NBA today, and he has also conditioned his body extremely well. I bet he'll play for another 4 years.

    That being said, as much as I like Nash, I do not think that his style of play would fit with Carmelo's.

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    Originally Posted by SSj4Wingzero
    I agree.

    What do all the teams that managed to make it to the Conference Finals have in common?

    They have a core group of players that has not changed over the past 2 years.

    The Knicks cannot say that, and until they give their team more than a year to figure things out, they'll always be a first-round exit. When it comes to the playoffs, continuity in terms of roster and coaching is just as important as talent level.

    I would rather have Nash than Lin at this point, but I do not think that is a realistic idea. Nash is by far the better player - his shortcomings on defense compared to Lin's are not as alarming as the fact that he is a far far better offensive player than Jeremy Lin will ever be. Jeremy Lin cannot run an offense like Nash does. Jeremy Lin cannot shoot like Nash does. Nash is both the best passer and the best shooter in the NBA today, and he has also conditioned his body extremely well. I bet he'll play for another 4 years.

    That being said, as much as I like Nash, I do not think that his style of play would fit with Carmelo's.
    "far far better offensive player than Jeremy Lin will ever be"?

    Well, I hope you are not right about this.

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