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    Originally Posted by 21 Shump Street
    Sh1t can we at least give Woodson a full offseason and 82 games plus playoffs before we start bitching. Before you bring up the fact that he didn't get past the 2nd round in Atlanta, take a look at the roster he had to work with. It was complete trash, our roster is much better.

    We were ridiculously struck down by injuries and everyone is downplaying that and we played the best team in the league. Surely some sense of stability and an improvement on defense will be welcoming?

    The East will be weaker next year with the Bulls missing Rose for most of the year and Deng to be out for the first few months. The Magic will be reshuffling and the Heat may break up the big 3 if they don't win it all this year. Next year could be our year to strike and let's quit the bitching for once and get behind our coach.

    He is miles in front of D'Antoni.
    doesnt mean we should give him a 2 or 3+ year extension

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    Woodson has done a pretty good job improving the Knicks defensively. Why don't some of you guys like this move?

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    Originally Posted by REALHEAT
    Woodson has done a pretty good job improving the Knicks defensively. Why don't some of you guys like this move?
    He's not a coach that will take you to the next level. The only other guy with a worse playoffs record than Melo is Woodson. Together, they will flounder like fish in the first round for the next 3 years. Then a rebuild, then maybe we go for the big name again in someone like Blake Griffin who may be weak by then.

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    Originally Posted by orangeblobman
    He's not a coach that will take you to the next level. The only other guy with a worse playoffs record than Melo is Woodson. Together, they will flounder like fish in the first round for the next 3 years. Then a rebuild, then maybe we go for the big name again in someone like Blake Griffin who may be weak by then.
    Hmm that's true. Well other than Woodson, I see Stan Van coming here. I think he's a nice fit. I think the players would respect him enough he'll do a pretty good job with them

    Yeah and I did take a peep at Woodson PO record. Pretty bad.

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    Woodson might be miles ahead of MDA, but he is still miles behind Jackson or Sloan. They showed some interest but Dolan wants no part of them.

    The biggest reasons are:
    1. His golden boy, Melo, plays happily under Woodson.
    2. Mike how-high Woodson fits perfectly to Dolan's tight lip policy with the media and Dolan can easily extent his power of influence into coaching.

    Lets face it, the probability of winning a championship with Woody is slim and none. He will get the Knicks into the playoffs but that is it! He doesnt have the championship blueprint nor the wits to outcoach some of the tops in the league.

    Look at what happened to the Kobe! Lakers played the extact type of iso offense as Knicks, except Lakers iso'ed the crucial the 4th and Knicks iso'ed the whole game. It absolutely killed the ball movement and took other players out of the game too! Half court set ISO offense will not win any championships!

    I guess Dolan and some fans are perfectly content in getting into the playoffs, while others like me,

    I want a Championship, and anything less is NOT acceptable!

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    Originally Posted by Cuckoo
    They showed some interest but Dolan wants no part of them.
    Did they? There were some rumors, but I can't recall Phil or Sloan saying he's interested in the job... my point is, there were also rumors Knicks were giving one year deals only and CP3 demaded a trade to NY and we all know how it actually turned out, with us signing Tyson to a multiple year contract and CP3 moving to LA.

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    Originally Posted by Dzwonsson
    Did they? There were some rumors, but I can't recall Phil or Sloan saying he's interested in the job... my point is, there were also rumors Knicks were giving one year deals only and CP3 demaded a trade to NY and we all know how it actually turned out, with us signing Tyson to a multiple year contract and CP3 moving to LA.
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    Knicks had not contacted Jackson...there is no guarantee he would take the job, but, "he would listen."
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    Originally Posted by orangeblobman
    Terrible move. Woodson is a bum coach, we saw this in the playoffs. I can't believe we pushed D'Antoni out of town but will give Woodson an extension.

    And we didn't even make a play at any big names.


    Mike Woodson is everything Dantoni is not!

    He demands defense from his players, he has the balls to tell them they are wrong and most important....his system worked with the players he had!

    Big Names!!! Dantoni was a big name!

    Jeff Van Gundy earned his name as our coach, and hopefully Woody will too!


    Plus....how can you blame our playoff performance on Woodson! Phil Jackson couldve been coaching with Calapari as top assistant and I assure you the results would have been the same!

    Miami looked like a team with chemistry and we looked like a team that had 3 players starting for us who had never played a playoff game together and one of our starters being a injured backup player!

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    Originally Posted by orangeblobman
    He's not a coach that will take you to the next level. The only other guy with a worse playoffs record than Melo is Woodson. Together, they will flounder like fish in the first round for the next 3 years. Then a rebuild, then maybe we go for the big name again in someone like Blake Griffin who may be weak by then.
    The Atlanta Hawks went from a lottery team to a 50 win team in 4 seasons under Woodson, that to me is taking a team to the next level

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    Woodson with a full off-season and way more talent than he had in Atlanta will make us a 50-55 win team. I pray to god Anthony/Stoudemire/Lin mesh like Ginobili/Duncan/Parker, Pierce/Garnett/Rondo or at least Nowitski/Kidd/Terry

    Our defense will be top 10 our offense will be top 10 if we find consistency and beat the teams we're suppose to beat then we have a great shot at being NBA Champions

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    I know everyone wants a championship, but let's be realistic and grateful for what we have. Look where we were two seasons ago. In the nba doghouse.

    This year was terrible with injuries, next year we will be healthier and have had a full offseason together. This will help us infinitely with chemistry. Tyson and Amare will be conducting workouts together with the dream, and Lin, Melo and Tyson will be playing in the olympics and training together.

    Giving Woodson 3 years with players that fit his system may not lead us to a title but we will definitely be in the upper realm of the NBA. For once we are surrounding the coach with players who fit his system (capable iso players) and with a few more minor pieces in the offseason, capable defenders who will also bring energy on the boards.

    Let's be realistic here:

    Phil Jackson: Nothing more than rumours linking him here and he bashed Melo and Amare's games.

    Jeff Van Gundy: People are just kidding themselves if they think he would come back here after all the Dolan drama, he isn't stupid and knows that money making and ticket sales are the hidden agenda's.

    Stan Van Gundy: Would have heard the horror stories from his brother and probably doesn't want to walk into another job where he will be torched and bashed by fans 24/7.

    Jerry Sloan: Kind of genuinely pissed he wasn't seriously considered but hey we may have made a call.

    Calipari: Already stated he wanted to stay with Kentucky, it's a cosy job and his previous tenure in the NBA proved to be unsuccessful.

    Let's give Woodson the courtesy of a full season before we tear him to shreds, we have a defensive minded coach who also has 2 very potent offensive weapons. Give him the chance he earned.

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    Originally Posted by New New York
    The Atlanta Hawks went from a lottery team to a 50 win team in 4 seasons under Woodson, that to me is taking a team to the next level
    He averaged 34 wins a year over 6 years with Atlanta.

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    Woodson still holds the record as the most lopsided 4-game playoff sweep, when his 3rd seeded Hawks were swept by 2nd seeded Magic.

    Different standards for different folks. Some are just ecstatic by making the playoffs; others are not.

    Why would you want Luol, Harden, Gasols when you have a chance get Howard, LeBron, Durant, or Westbrook??

    This thread will close in a couple of days. Knicks will make an annoucement of Woodson's multiyear contract within a few days!

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    I would say sloan but he's interested in the vacant spot in orlando

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    Lol...c'mon guys. You knew once Dolan said "fire your agent" and Woodson did, that he'd be the next coach.

    I would have loved Phil Jackson bringing the triangle offense to NY, but with Dolan running the show, that's just not gonna happen. One of the big draws of having Jackson as your coach is luring star players that want to play for him. But since the Knicks are pretty much capped out for the next few years, that's not gonna happen either.

    I think Woodson derserves a shot, especially since he has the support of the players.
    Don't forget, before Amare and Lin got injured, Knicks were looking real good. He also bought out the best of Melo in that game against the Bulls.
    The one mistake he made this season was not avoiding the Heat in the playoffs.
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