Zach Randolph, Jamal Crawford hell we might see what Eddy Curry has got tonight
like any system, DAntoni system needs total buy-in from players, BUT it also requires a lot of sacrifice from offensive iso players.
as far as defense is concerned, it is doomed to fail unless you have great individual defensive players like LeBron for instance playing in it.
Clippers with DAntoni will be scary for sure, CP3 is the perfect player to run it.
As for players buying in to his system, he was coaching in NY for 2 & a half seasons before the Carmelo trade went down & it never really seemed that any of the players completely bought in other than guys who were padding their stats in contract seasons. David Lee & Chris Duhon had some good chemistry running the pick & roll in this system, but those teams were still horrible. At some point I think we need to look at the flaws in the system when so many players have come & gone in the time D'Antoni has been here & never once were they ever able to achieve any level of consistently good play.
What case? This thread should be closed.
It can be argued Mello quit on the coach. But its not a fact that can be clearly pin pointed, why? Well, simply because we all seen mello out there trying to run/play within D'Ants flawed system. We all seen him put up points rebound and dish out dimes within this wack system. Facts.
As far as quitting is concerned...it was the wack, clueles coach (that can't adapt to the game) quitting on Mello and the whole knicks organization. Why? Because he didn't know how to coach the talent he had. Fact.
I'm glad he's outta here... don't care where he ends up as long as he's not anywhere near the Knicks. I just hope his fans will follow him...that would be nice.
I get upset too when we lose, but I'm not going to misdirect my anger in such a way. That will just expose some envy issues and cluelessness. I would give the team some time to find a identity first before I go off on any particular player.
He's also been highly underrated as a passer as well, this season he averaged the most assists per game in his last 7 seasons, & for a guy who over his entire high school, college & professional career has been mostly looked upon to carry the scoring load for every team he's played on, I think it shows he's at least trying to look for his teammates more. Melo is not a point guard, he is not a guy who is accustomed to orchestrating an offense & shouldn't be looked upon to set guys up in motion for easy buckets. D'Antoni was trying to turn him into a point forward instead of using him to his strengths posting up guys down low. Instead of adapting his system to the players he had on the roster like any good coach would do, he tried to change the players' games to adapt to his system. This is what has consistently bothered me about him ever since he got the job as our coach.
Knicks fans that complain about Melo's style of play need to stop expecting him to be something that he's not. They want him to be Lebron James or Steve Nash, but he's not that type of player. Melo's a pure scorer in the mold of Bernard King. He's used to being the guy that gets the ball passed to HIM to do the scoring.
I also think he's shown much more of a consistent effort on the defensive end also. People ask why that effort wasn't there when D'Antoni was coaching here, but fail to realize that effort was lacking in the other players that played under him too, & that encompassed all the teams since he was our coach. I don't see why fans can't just be happy that they're seeing our best player starting to take some accountability for how the team performs, instead of pointing fingers at his teammates for their shortcomings. Melo handled all the negative backlash thrown his way this year like a true pro in my opinion, even when Linsanity broke loose & everyone was thinking this team was better off without him. I think with a full offseason training camp playing with Lin, Amar'e, Shump & Chandler under the same system that Mike Woodson is running, they'll be a much better team next year. Hopefully we'll be able to retain Steve Novak too. This team needs to build that team cohesion & trust in each other that you see in teams like the Spurs & Celtics. That type of chemistry is only built over time & growing pains are all a part of the process. Knick fans need to realize this.
Sorry for the longwinded post, but this hate towards Melo by some Knick fans just doesn't make sense to me & never has.
Well said^^ and that's basically all to it.
Absolutely, I agree with you here. I'm sure Melo would agree with that too. I think once he starts to develop more trust in his teammates after more practices & familiarity, the chemistry will be better. I really thought this team was making progress in the last few weeks of the season & their ability to stay away from any prolonged losing streak was really encouraging. Lin coming back will help to take some of the orchestrating load off of Melo's shoulders next season, but this season I thought Melo was at least making a conscious effort to get other guys involved.I think there's still room for him to pass more.
By the way, I'm not sure if I'm right, I'm thinking.... while it may help you catch the missed intricacies of games watching it for the second or third time, it may also bring you so deep into the game and you can't look at the whole picture any more.
For example, you followed every Melo's move, then you became him, you thought like him, and you felt each of his move was a nature thing to do.
Just like people so into Steve Novak would think he's better than Ray Allen. (Which I do. )
Forget it, I don't know what I'm talking about.