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    Originally Posted by Real NY Baller
    Some of the funniest sh!t I've seen around here was people calling him a genius...without seeing any signs of it.
    Can't believe people are still on the guys bandwagon saying he's still a better coach than Woody even after Woody takes the same team that D'Antoni was coaching to a losing record and plays .700 ball with them.

    I compared D'Antoni to the NY Giants Jim Fassel who was an awful in-game manager, Fassel never got another NFL head coaching job because he got exposed as a mediocre coach despite taking a team to the Super Bowl. Let's see what happens to D'Antoni but his rep took a big hit in NY.

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    but the truth is.... Mike Woodson is the same thing.
    He hasn't got a clue about offense. He can't make any offensive adjustments or make decent plays. -- I have never seen it.

    D'Antoni and Woodson are both very incomplete.

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    Originally Posted by nyk_nyk
    Do you really not understand the game of basketball? Jalen looked at Thomas because Antoni only addressed ONE SIDE of the game. He mentioned Carlisle and the way he had his players prepared on BOTH sides of the ball. Jalen even asked Antoni about coverage and he didn't give him anything. A good coach would have addressed it, even if it were for a few players that felt it would help them perform better.

    A coach who isn't worried about what the other team might be doing isn't preparing his team enough. What happens if the quick plays Antoni runs doesn't result in made shots? Sounds familiar? Antoni - "we just didn't hit shots"

    This is why you prepare on both sides of the ball and make defense just as important as offense. If you're having trouble scoring at least you can defend well enough to hold off the opponent until you get going offensively.

    Damn do you really not understand the logic??
    Couldn't have said it better myself.

    Originally Posted by Real NY Baller
    xD,

    Everyone knows D'Ant is a joke and one of the worst coaches of all times. I don't think anyone (fan or player) ever really had faith in him. I used to think some of the fan support for him were from clueless fans pretending to know something about BBall... but now I'm coming to the realization that all the support he has gotten from around here were all alternate accounts made by D'Ant's brother Dan Antonio. I used to wonder what in the hell his job was..

    There's no way a knowledgable person claiming to know this game will support his flawed system. He was a scrub when he played the game and it showed when he started coaching it. Some of the funniest sh!t I've seen around here was people calling him a genius...without seeing any signs of it.(Oh, my bad, not people...I mean Dan). LOL
    LMFAO, you a fool man, you made me spit out my food when i read that, Good one.

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    Originally Posted by Real NY Baller
    I used to wonder what in the hell his job was...
    If you don't know how to coach your players, scream LET'S GO and hope they'll figure it out themeselves.

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    Originally Posted by KnickolasMGL
    but the truth is.... Mike Woodson is the same thing.
    He hasn't got a clue about offense. He can't make any offensive adjustments or make decent plays. -- I have never seen it.

    D'Antoni and Woodson are both very incomplete.
    I think 18W - 6L has earned Woodson more of a look in NY. I think his tendency to hold even the star players accountable is a refreshing change over the blatant favoritism that D'Antoni would show to "his guys" over his tenure. Of course there's always things you can pick out about any coach & critique, but since JVG was our coach, I don't think there's been a better one than Coach Woodson in how he's been able to get these guys to play consistently on the defensive side of the ball. That is what this team needs to get into the habit of doing if they ever want to develop a winning culture here. The speedball system of D'Antoni was not well suited for this city or this conference. You need to be able to play defense on a consistent basis if you want to beat teams like the Heat & Celtics.

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    Originally Posted by Dzwonsson
    If you don't know how to coach your players, scream LET'S GO and hope they'll figure it out themeselves.
    That's hilarious & so true. Seems like all you would ever hear during every time out went something like "Let's GO! We gotta run! Let's GO! Let's GO! Come on guys, let's GO!"

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    Originally Posted by STAT1
    I think 18W - 6L has earned Woodson more of a look in NY. I think his tendency to hold even the star players accountable is a refreshing change over the blatant favoritism that D'Antoni would show to "his guys" over his tenure. Of course there's always things you can pick out about any coach & critique, but since JVG was our coach, I don't think there's been a better one than Coach Woodson in how he's been able to get these guys to play consistently on the defensive side of the ball. That is what this team needs to get into the habit of doing if they ever want to develop a winning culture here. The speedball system of D'Antoni was not well suited for this city or this conference. You need to be able to play defense on a consistent basis if you want to beat teams like the Heat & Celtics.
    How did Woodson hold our star players accountable ?
    Just curious .....everyone keeps making that statement but please someone tell me how ?

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    Originally Posted by skisloper
    How did Woodson hold our star players accountable ?
    Just curious .....everyone keeps making that statement but please someone tell me how ?
    He has been shown many times on television talking about how Melo needed to get into better shape, how Amar'e needed to play better defense & improve on his low post game this summer, & both those star players have been quoted during interviews saying how much they respect his coaching style, Melo in particular has pointed out his respect for the fact Woodson has held him accountable to give forth more of an effort on defense since he took over as the head coach.

    I believe this goes a long way in winning a team's respect. Look at how the San Antonio Spurs all respect Greg Popovich, he is not afraid to get into any of their faces when they're messing up, not even their star player Tony Parker during a Finals game. Whether you're the face of the franchise or the 12th man on the bench, Mike Woodson has made it known that he expects everyone to play to a certain standard. This is what won Glen Grunwald & James Dolan over during their interview to decide if Woodson would get a contract extension & his willingness to hold players accountable has been reported several times in the news media since Woodson took over the head coaching duties.

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    If nothing else, Mike Woodson's Knicks will be held accountable.

    Woodson made that point loud and clear after his first game as the team's interim head coach.

    "I'm going to do everything I can possibly do to win basketball games, that's my job," Woodson said. "I'm going to be held accountable and I'm going to make damn sure that (the players are) held accountable to win."

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    More Accountability; Melo Backs Woodson Posted on [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] by [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
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    “I’m a big supporter of what coach Woodson has done,” said Anthony. “His approach to the game, and what he gets out of all his players, even me. He holds everybody accountable and that’s what we need.”
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    Still, the Knicks are winning under new coach Mike Woodson. [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] and talked about what Woodson brings ([Only registered and activated users can see links. ]).
    The biggest thing now is he holds guys accountable on the basketball court regardless of who it is like myself, Amar’e, Tyson [Chandler], Jeremy [Lin]. Regardless of who it is he holds guys accountable. That’s big especially in this day and age.”
    With Stoudemire out a lot of the accountability, responsibility and pressure now falls to Anthony.
    Oh it’s a lot. It’s a lot. It’s a team. I am not the only one on a team. A moment like this is where it becomes fun. I have been around this league for eight years. This is my ninth season, so I’ve been in situations like this before and it’s a very fun time. It’s a very fun situation to be in. Of course we would like it a little bit better where we are not fighting for it to solidify a spot, but at times like this it becomes fun.”
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    Mike Woodson was assumed to be a lame duck upon arrival when he took the New York Knicks’ head coaching job on an interim basis last month, but now it appears he may have some long-term hope after all. Knicks stars Carmelo Anthony and Amare Stoudemire have come out and publicly endorsed Woodson as their coach, [Only registered and activated users can see links. ].


    “I would love to see him around here past this year,” Anthony said. “Just to see what he’s brought to our team, the confidence that he’s instilled into everybody, the belief that he has in everybody. Just his coaching style, the way he’s coached, kind of a hard-nosed coach. Holds everybody accountable out there, saying that everybody is responsible for their own actions. I would love to see him back here.”


    “Coach Woodson has done a great job for us,” Stoudemire added. “He’s done a phenomenal, phenomenal job. I love his attitude. I love his coaching style. It would be nice.”

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    It's doesn't get any worse than that, does it? Pretty much what all of us in the anti-D'antoni crowd suspected all along. The guy is good guy, but he's just not what I want (personally) as a leader/coach.

    He sincerely believes his philosophy is so sound, & his style so innovative that it cannot be stopped. Well, perhaps in theory & on paper, but in practice... Relying/depending on LONG, low-% shots is a receipe for disaster when the playoffs begibns, & stars get calls, the play gets physical & refs put their whistles away.

    It's like... YO, dude. You're a professional. You make millions. This is your job. COVER ALL BASES. Not to even take the time to gameplan, so your team is prepared? Well, compare that style to POPS in SA. Well, there you go.

    And, trust me... Not like D'antoni is the zen master himself Phil Jax. Phil is the the man who invented less-is-more, b/c he's poignant. D'antoni is just ****y.

    Look at today's NBA player. They wont work unless prodded, so if you put your trust in them... GOOD LUCK with that.

    Relying on talent & system might work in college, but in the pros everyone has talent & system. Those who work harder & prepare will always prevail over the lazy & arrogant.

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    I cant believe J Rose put MDR on blast like that. It confirms every non biased Knicks fans believe that MDR had no clue on how to coach effectively and win. Had no Idea what defense was.

    The guy was an absolute joke. There is now way in hell this team should have started the season 8-15. It was too talented.

    Woody has a good defensive philosophy and he seems to point out to players what will be needed (Melo in shape & STAT defense) but, he seems to have some flaws generating offensive plays. He has to do a better job here. Novak getting minimal looks in the playoffs just cant happen. JR & Melo dominating offensive play cant happen when they're not hitting their shots.

    I wanted Laimbeer, but I'll back Woody until he shows me my support is futile...

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    Originally Posted by KnickolasMGL
    but the truth is.... Mike Woodson is the same thing.
    He hasn't got a clue about offense. He can't make any offensive adjustments or make decent plays. -- I have never seen it.

    D'Antoni and Woodson are both very incomplete.
    Lol...

    Yet Woodson took less-of-a-team aka injury riddled, and beat the HEAT at least one game. Go figure.

    Boy some of you guys should just change your signature to clueless fan.

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