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    I posted this since as of 6/22/2012 the Knicks have enough cap room that this list actually matters

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    Players marked with an asterisk are not on rookie scale contracts (for former first-round picks) but are eligible for restricted free agency as a player with three years or less of NBA experience. Players finishing their rookie scale contracts are marked as restricted until decided otherwise and their Qualifying Offer is listed. Teams needed to officially issue that Offer by June 30, 2012, to make the player restricted.

    Point Guard

    (name, team – 2011-12 salary – status)

    Deron Williams, Brooklyn Nets – $16.4 million – Player Option ($17.8 million)
    Steve Nash, Phoenix Suns – $11.7 million – Unrestricted
    Aaron Brooks, Phoenix Suns – $2.0 million – Restricted ($3.0 million Qualifying Offer)
    Raymond Felton, Portland Trail Blazers – $7.6 million – Unrestricted
    Kirk Hinrich, Atlanta Hawks – $8.0 million – Unrestricted
    Jason Kidd, Dallas Mavericks – $8.6 million – Unrestricted
    Andre Miller, Denver Nuggets – $7.8 million – Unrestricted
    Chauncey Billups, L.A. Clippers – $2.0 million – Unrestricted
    Jameer Nelson, Orlando Magic – $7.8 million – Player Option ($7.8 million)
    D.J. Augustin, Charlotte Bobcats – $3.2 million – Restricted ($4.4 million Qualifying Offer)
    Jason Terry, Dallas Mavericks – $10.7 million – Unrestricted
    George Hill, Indiana Pacers – $2.1 million – Restricted ($3.1 million Qualifying Offer)
    Jordan Farmar, Brooklyn Nets – $4.0 million – Player Option ($4.3 million)
    Leandro Barbosa, Indiana Pacers – $7.6 million – Unrestricted
    Goran Dragic, Houston Rockets – $2.1 million – Unrestricted
    Jerryd Bayless, Toronto Raptors – $3.0 million – Restricted ($4.2 million Qualifying Offer)
    Derek Fisher, Oklahoma City Thunder – $3.4 million – Unrestricted
    Randy Foye, L.A. Clippers – $4.3 million – Unrestricted
    Mo Williams, L.A. Clippers – $8.5 million – Player Option ($8.5 million)
    Jonny Flynn, Portland Trail Blazers – $3.4 million – Unrestricted
    Keyon Dooling, Boston Celtics – $2.2 million – Unrestricted
    Ishmael Smith, Orlando Magic – $0.5 million – Unrestricted*
    Ramon Sessions, L.A. Lakers – $4.3 million – Player Option ($4.6 million)
    Jeremy Lin, New York Knicks – $0.8 million – Unrestricted*
    Sundiata Gaines, Brooklyn Nets – $0.9 million – Unrestricted*
    A.J. Price, Indiana Pacers – $0.9 million – Unrestricted*
    Baron Davis, New York Knicks – $1.3 million – Unrestricted
    Royal Ivey, Oklahoma City Thunder – $1.2 million – Unrestricted
    John Lucas, Chicago Bulls – $0.9 million – Unrestricted
    Gilbert Arenas, Memphis Grizzlies – $0.4 million – Unrestricted
    Jannero Pargo, Atlanta Hawks – $1.1 million – Unrestricted
    Delonte West, Dallas Mavericks – $1.1 million – Unrestricted
    Walker Russell, Jr., Detroit Pistons – $0.4 million – Unrestricted*
    Darius Morris, L.A. Lakers – $0.5 million – Unrestricted*
    Terrell Harris, Miami HEAT – $0.5 million – Unrestricted*
    Carldell Johnson, New Orleans Hornets – $0.5 million – Unrestricted*
    DeAndre Liggins, Orlando Magic – $0.5 million – Unrestricted*
    Ronnie Price, Phoenix Suns – $1.1 million – Unrestricted
    T.J. Ford, Golden State Warriors – $1.1 million – Unrestricted
    Anthony Carter, Toronto Raptors – $1.3 million – Unrestricted
    Roger Mason, Washington Wizards – $1.1 million – Unrestricted
    Jamaal Tinsley, Utah Jazz – $1.2 million – Team Option ($1.3 million)
    Donald Sloan, Cleveland Cavaliers – $0.2 million – Unrestricted*
    Manny Harris, Cleveland Cavaliers – $0.4 million – Unrestricted*
    Patty Mills, San Antonio Spurs – $0.3 million – Unrestricted*
    Courtney Fortson, Houston Rockets – $0.2 million – Unrestricted*
    Mike James, Chicago Bulls – $0.6 million – Unrestricted
    Jerome Dyson, New Orleans Hornets – $0.1 million – Unrestricted*
    Ben Uzoh, Toronto Raptors – $0.2 million – Unrestricted*
    Armon Johnson, Brooklyn Nets – $0.1 million – Unrestricted*
    Earl Boykins, Houston Rockets – $0.2 million – Unrestricted
    Blake Ahearn, Utah Jazz – $0.1 million – Unrestricted*

    Shooting Guard

    (name, team – 2011-12 salary – status)

    Eric Gordon, New Orleans Hornets – $3.8 million – Restricted ($5.1 million Qualifying Offer)
    O.J. Mayo, Memphis Grizzlies – $5.6 million – Restricted ($7.4 million Qualifying Offer)
    Ray Allen, Boston Celtics – $10.0 million – Unrestricted
    Landry Fields, New York Knicks – $0.8 million – Unrestricted*

    Carlos Delfino, Milwaukee Bucks – $3.5 million – Unrestricted
    Nick Young, L.A. Clippers – $3.7 million – Unrestricted
    Jamal Crawford, Portland Trail Blazers – $5.0 million – Player Option ($5.2 million)
    Louis Williams, Philadelphia 76ers – $5.2 million – Early Termination Option ($5.4 million)
    J.R Smith, New York Knicks – $1.4 million – Player Option ($2.6 million)
    Mickael Pietrus, Boston Celtics – $1.2 million – Unrestricted
    Courtney Lee, Houston Rockets – $2.2 million – Restricted ($3.2 million Qualifying Offer)
    Rudy Fernandez, Denver Nuggets – $2.2 million – Restricted ($3.2 million Qualifying Offer)
    DeShawn Stevenson, Brooklyn Nets – $2.5 million – Unrestricted
    Damion James, Brooklyn Nets – $1.2 million – Unrestricted
    C.J. Miles, Utah Jazz – $3.7 million – Unrestricted
    Shannon Brown, Phoenix Suns – $3.5 million – Unrestricted
    Josh Howard, Utah Jazz – $2.2 million – Unrestricted
    Gerald Green, Brooklyn Nets – $0.4 million – Unrestricted
    Terrence Williams, Sacramento Kings – $2.4 million – Unrestricted
    Jodie Meeks, Philadelphia 76ers – $0.9 million – Unrestricted*
    Marco Belinelli, New Orleans Hornets – $3.4 million – Unrestricted
    James Anderson, San Antonio Spurs – $1.5 million – Unrestricted
    Matt Carroll, Charlotte Bobcats – $3.9 million – Early Termination Option ($3.5 million)
    Brandon Rush, Golden State Warriors – $3.0 million – Restricted ($4.1 million Qualifying Offer)
    Alonzo Gee, Cleveland Cavaliers – $0.9 million – Unrestricted*
    Danny Green, San Antonio Spurs – $0.9 million – Unrestricted*
    Tracy McGrady, Atlanta Hawks – $1.3 million – Unrestricted
    Jerry Stackhouse, Atlanta Hawks – $1.3 million – Unrestricted
    Willie Green, Atlanta Hawks – $1.2 million – Unrestricted
    Jason Kapono, Cleveland Cavaliers – $1.2 million – Unrestricted
    Marquis Daniels, Boston Celtics – $1.2 million – Unrestricted
    Sasha Pavlovic, Boston Celtics – $1.2 million – Unrestricted
    Cory Higgins, Charlotte Bobcats – $0.5 million – Unrestricted*
    Anthony Parker, Cleveland Cavaliers – $2.3 million – Unrestricted
    Travis Leslie, L.A. Clippers – $0.5 million – Unrestricted*
    Keith Bogans, Brooklyn Nets – $0.8 million – Unrestricted
    Michael Redd, Phoenix Suns – $1.3 million – Unrestricted
    Mo Evans, Washington Wizards – $1.2 million – Unrestricted
    Kelenna Azubuike, Dallas Mavericks – $0.4 million – Unrestricted(I didn't know he was still in the league)
    Bobby Simmons, L.A. Clippers – $0.5 million – Unrestricted
    Morris Almond, Washington Wizards – $0.1 million – Unrestricted
    Alan Anderson, Toronto Raptors – $0.2 million – Unrestricted
    Xavier Silas, Philadelphia 76ers – $0.1 million – Unrestricted*
    Cartier Martin, Washington Wizards – $0.1 million – Unrestricted

    Small Forward

    (name, team – 2011-12 salary – status)

    Gerald Wallace, Brooklyn Nets – $9.5 million – Player Option ($9.5 million)
    Nic Batum, Portland Trail Blazers – $2.2 million – Restricted ($3.2 million Qualifying Offer)
    Jeff Green, Boston Celtics – $4.5 million – Restricted ($7.2 million Qualifying Offer)
    Chase Budinger, Houston Rockets – $0.9 million – Team Option ($0.9 million)
    Grant Hill, Phoenix Suns – $6.5 million – Unrestricted
    Sam Young, Philadelphia 76ers – $0.9 million – Unrestricted*
    Matt Barnes, L.A. Lakers – $1.9 million – Unrestricted
    Andres Nocioni, Philadelphia 76ers – $6.7 million – Unrestricted
    Anthony Tolliver, Minnesota Timberwolves – $2.1 million – Unrestricted
    Donte’ Greene, Sacramento Kings – $2.0 million – Restricted ($3.0 million Qualifying Offer)
    Bill Walker, New York Knicks – $0.9 million – Unrestricted
    Devin Ebanks, L.A. Lakers – $0.8 million – Unrestricted*
    Dahntay Jones, Indiana Pacers – $2.7 million – Player Option ($2.9 million)
    Jeremy Evans, Utah Jazz – $0.8 million – Unrestricted*
    Eduardo Najera, Charlotte Bobcats – $2.8 million – Unrestricted
    Derrick Brown, Charlotte Bobcats – $0.9 million – Unrestricted*
    Damien Wilkins, Detroit Pistons – $1.1 million – Unrestricted
    Dominic McGuire, Golden State Warriors – $0.9 million – Unrestricted
    Chris Wright, Golden State Warriors – $0.5 million – Unrestricted*
    Trey Thompkins, L.A. Clippers – $0.5 million – Unrestricted*
    DaJuan Summers, New Orleans Hornets – $0.8 million – Unrestricted
    Steve Novak, New York Knicks – $1.0 million – Unrestricted
    Rasual Butler, Toronto Raptors – $1.2 million – Unrestricted
    Diamon Simpson, Houston Rockets – $0.1 million – Unrestricted*
    Jamario Moon, Charlotte Bobcats – $0.1 million – Unrestricted
    James Singleton, Washington Wizards – $0.2 million – Unrestricted
    D.J. Kennedy, Cleveland Cavaliers – $0.1 million – Unrestricted*

    Power Forward

    (name, team – 2011-12 salary – status)

    Kevin Garnett, Boston Celtics – $21.2 million – Unrestricted
    Tim Duncan, San Antonio Spurs – $21.2 million – Unrestricted
    Michael Beasley, Minnesota Timberwolves – $6.3 million – Restricted ($8.2 million Qualifying Offer)
    Brandon Bass, Boston Celtics – $4.3 million – Player Option ($4.3 million)
    Kris Humphries, Brooklyn Nets – $8.0 million – Unrestricted
    Kenyon Martin, L.A. Clippers – $2.5 million – Unrestricted
    Carl Landry, New Orleans Hornets – $8.5 million – Unrestricted
    J.J. Hickson, Portland Trail Blazers – $2.4 million – Restricted ($3.4 million Qualifying Offer)
    Elton Brand, Philadelphia 76ers – $17.1 million – Early Termination Option ($18.2 million)
    Antawn Jamison, Cleveland Cavaliers – $15.1 million – Unrestricted
    Shawne Williams, Portland Trail Blazers – $3.0 million – Player Option ($3.1 million)
    Jason Thompson, Sacramento Kings – $3.0 million – Restricted ($4.1 million Qualifying Offer)
    Marreese Speights, Memphis Grizzlies – $2.8 million – Restricted ($3.8 million Qualifying Offer)
    Ryan Anderson, Orlando Magic – $2.2 million – Restricted ($3.2 million Qualifying Offer)
    D.J. White, Charlotte Bobcats – $2.0 million – Restricted ($3.0 million Qualifying Offer)
    Anthony Randolph, Minnesota Timberwolves – $2.9 million – Restricted ($4.0 million Qualifying Offer)
    Renaldo Balkman, New York Knicks – $1.7 million – Unrestricted
    Ronny Turiaf, Miami HEAT – $4.4 million – Unrestricted
    Troy Murphy, L.A. Lakers – $1.3 million – Unrestricted
    Boris Diaw, San Antonio Spurs – $9.0 million – Unrestricted
    Chris Wilcox, Boston Celtics – $3.0 million – Unrestricted
    Ersan Ilyasova, Milwaukee Bucks – $2.5 million – Unrestricted
    Darrell Arthur, Memphis Grizzlies – $2.0 million – Restricted ($3.0 million Qualifying Offer)
    Louis Amundson, Indiana Pacers – $2.4 million – Unrestricted
    Jason Maxiell, Detroit Pistons – $5.0 million – Player Option ($5.0 million)
    Jordan Hill, L.A. Lakers – $2.9 million – Unrestricted
    Craig Brackins, Phildelphia 76ers – $1.4 million – Unrestricted
    Chris Johnson, New Orleans Hornets – $0.8 million – Unrestricted
    Derrick Caracter, L.A. Lakers – $0.8 million – Unrestricted
    Brian Cook, Washington Wizards – $1.3 million – Unrestricted
    Ian Mahinmi, Dallas Mavericks – $0.9 million – Unrestricted
    Earl Clark, Orlando Magic – $1.2 million – Player Option ($1.2 million)
    Luke Harangody, Cleveland Cavaliers – $0.8 million – Unrestricted*
    Vladimir Radmanovic, Atlanta Hawks – $1.3 million – Unrestricted
    Ivan Johnson, Atlanta Hawks – $0.5 million – Unrestricted*
    Brian Scalabrine, Chicago Bulls – $1.3 million – Unrestricted
    Brian Cardinal, Dallas Mavericks – $1.3 million – Unrestricted
    Yi Jianlian, Dallas Mavericks – $0.8 million – Unrestricted
    Vernon Macklin, Detroit Pistons – $0.5 million – Unrestricted*
    Reggie Evans, L.A. Clippers – $1.2 million – Unrestricted
    Juwan Howard, Miami HEAT – $1.3 million – Unrestricted
    Shelden Williams, Brooklyn Nets – $1.0 million – Unrestricted
    Jared Jeffries, New York Knicks – $1.2 million – Unrestricted
    Francisco Elson, Philadelphia 76ers – $0.9 million – Unrestricted
    Lavoy Allen, Philadelphia 76ers – $0.5 million – Unrestricted*
    Jeremy Evans, Utah Jazz – $0.8 million – Unrestricted*
    Lance Thomas, New Orleans Hornets – $0.5 million – Unrestricted*
    Ryan Reid, Oklahoma City Thunder – $0.5 million – Unrestricted
    Sean Williams, Boston Celtics – $0.1 million – Unrestricted

    Center

    (name, team – 2011-12 salary – status)

    Andrew Bynum, L.A. Lakers – $14.9 million – Team Option ($16.1 million)
    Roy Hibbert, Indiana Pacers – $2.6 million – Restricted ($3.7 million Qualifying Offer)
    Brook Lopez, Brooklyn Nets – $3.1 million – Restricted ($4.2 million Qualifying Offer)
    Chris Kaman, New Orleans Hornets – $12.7 million – Unrestricted
    JaVale McGee, Denver Nuggets – $2.5 million – Restricted ($3.5 million Qualifying Offer)
    Marcus Camby, Houston Rockets – $12.9 million – Unrestricted
    Spencer Hawes, Philadelphia 76ers – $4.1 million – Unrestricted
    Kwame Brown, Milwaukee Bucks – $6.8 million – Unrestricted
    Aaron Gray, Toronto Raptors – $2.5 million – Unrestricted
    Robin Lopez, Phoenix Suns – $2.8 million – Restricted ($4.0 million Qualifying Offer)
    Jermaine O’Neal, Boston Celtics – $6.2 million – Unrestricted
    Nazr Mohammed, Oklahoma City Thunder – $3.8 million – Unrestricted
    Omer Asik, Chicago Bulls – $1.9 million – Unrestricted*
    Semih Erden, Cleveland Cavaliers – $0.8 million – Unrestricted*
    Ben Wallace, Detroit Pistons – $2.2 million – Unrestricted
    Hamed Haddadi, Memphis Grizzlies – $1.3 million – Unrestricted
    Mehmet Okur, Portland Trail Blazers – $10.9 million – Unrestricted
    Greg Stiemsma, Boston Celtics – $0.5 million – Unrestricted*
    Daniel Orton, Orlando Magic – $1.1 million – Unrestricted
    Solomon Alabi, Toronto Raptors – $0.8 million – Team Option ($0.9 million)
    Hasheem Thabeet, Portland Trail Blazers – $5.1 million – Unrestricted
    DeSagana Diop, Charlotte Bobcats – $6.9 million – Player Option ($7.4 million)
    Ryan Hollins, Boston Celtics – $0.3 million – Unrestricted
    Jason Collins, Atlanta Hawks – $1.3 million – Unrestricted
    Joel Przybilla, Portland Trail Blazers – $0.7 million – Unrestricted
    Eddy Curry, Miami HEAT – $1.2 million – Unrestricted
    Tony Battie, Philadelphia 76ers – $1.3 million – Unrestricted
    Greg Oden, Portland Trail Blazers – $1.5 million – Unrestricted
    Jamaal Magloire, Toronto Raptors – $1.3 million – Unrestricted
    Kyrylo Fesenko, Indiana Pacers – $0.3 million – Unrestricted
    Mickell Gladness, Golden State Warriors – $0.1 million – Unrestricted*
    Mikki Moore, Golden State Warriors – $0.1 million – Unrestricted
    Dan Gadzuric, New York Knicks – $0.1 million – Unrestricted

    I bolded the players I found interesting. Obviously the Knicks should try to keep their players and I know the clear choice of an offseason acquisition would be Nash. However he's teased coming here before and the rumor is the Knicks aren't even front runners [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

    So in my mind if that happens the Knicks should go with the Ray/Ray plan Raymond Felton (future Backup PG) and Ray Allen (outside 3 pt shooter to ease the load on Novak)

    also I think Shannon Brown could be the steal price wise in comparison to production this year and Robin Lopez could be a really cheap decent backup center.
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    Alan Hahn is saying its unlikely the Knicks can afford to go after Steve Nash, JR Smith will likely remain on the Knicks and he confirms the Knicks do in fact have $3 Million in cash considerations this year to make moves.

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    Originally Posted by Wargames
    Alan Hahn is saying its unlikely the Knicks can afford to go after Steve Nash, JR Smith will likely remain on the Knicks and he confirms the Knicks do in fact have $3 Million in cash considerations this year to make moves.

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    Hahn says the following:

    [Technically, the Knicks could use the full MLE, but it would be a great risk. Why? Because if they are held at the instituted hard cap, they can not add any more players for the entire 2012-13 season. This means if a player is injured, you can not sign a free agent to a veteran's minimum or even a D-League player to a 10-day contract.]

    Instead, expect the Knicks to go with the $3 million tax-payer MLE, which would not trigger the $4 million apron and hard cap. It would allow them to sign a free agent at $3 million, use the $1.9 million bi-annual to sign another player and still have the luxury of adding as many veteran's minimum contracts as they please throughout the season. Trust me, this matters, especially when a player is amnestied or waived after the trade deadline.
    I guess Nash is pretty much out of the question, & I would highly doubt Ray Allen would be interested for a $3 million dollar deal either (unless he just relishes the opportunity to go after the Heat next year on a stacked Knicks' squad, but I would picture him re-signing in Boston unless we could offer him more than $3M).

    That may leave us with Jason Kidd or Ray Felton as the next options for PG, & possibly add a dirty work player like a Kenyon Martin or Reggie Evans to shore up our frontcourt for the $1.9M BAE (I'm really not keen on the idea of bringing back Jared Jeffries, he really has no skills to offer this team other than taking a charge every now & then). We need someone who can add some more toughness to this team, add a little bit of edge, & be 1 of those players that get under the skin of the players on the other team.

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    This is why I also look forward to seeing if Glen Grunwald and his crafty group can come up with another Tyson Chandler-type plan, using some of the other assets on this team. Consider the value in Landry Fields ($2.6 million qualifyer), Toney Douglas' expiring contract ($2 million) and non-guaranteed money in Dan Gadzuric ($1.3 million), Josh Harrellson ($762,195) and Jerome Jordan ($762, 195).

    If a team is looking to sell and take nothing back, the Knicks have the pieces, plus $3 million in cash considerations, to put on the table.
    That's in addition to everything else. I don't know if it can be used in a sign and trade but if not maybe the Knicks can in fact buy there way into the first round this year. The Thunders 28th pick is up for grabs since rumor is the Thunder do not want to have to pay for a late draft pick who likely wont get playing time. Hell Reggie Jackson was drafted at 24 for them and can't break into their regular rotation.

    But yeah Nash is a stretch and I am not sure Felton deserves the 3 Mil MLE he really under performed in a contract year and wasn't in shape.

    Originally Posted by STAT1
    I guess Nash is pretty much out of the question, & I would highly doubt Ray Allen would be interested for a $3 million dollar deal either (unless he just relishes the opportunity to go after the Heat next year on a stacked Knicks' squad, but I would picture him re-signing in Boston unless we could offer him more than $3M).
    Actually I think Ray Allen is gone the Celtics are focused on trying to keep KG (and hopefully will overpay him) and it seems Ray has been having issues with Rondo off the course all season. Along with Avery Bradley being the better 2 guard there he lost his starting spot. Also not for nothing Ainge has been trying to trade him for about 2 seasons.

    NY would be a good place for him he would be a rotation player here with good minutes and his ability to effective without the ball would be great. We also know Spike Lee is in his ear right now trying to sell him on coming to NY.
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    Lost some respect for Nash. So he cares more about cash than winning. Portland Phoenix and Toronto? All horrible choices.

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    Surprised to see people talking about fitting Nash when he already said he doesn't wanna come to the Knicks

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    Pipe Dream

    MLE- Nash

    BAE- Odom

    Vet mins - Grant Hill, Jeffries, Pietrus
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    Pending this bird rights ruling stays in our favour and we resign Lin, Novak, Jeffries & Fields, I think a few things need to happen.

    Our biggest need is to strengthen our back court, and if we are being realistic, our Full MLE will be needed to secure a backup PG while our Bi-Annual will be needed to bolster the SG spot.

    I really think Nash is a pipe dream at this point, and my preference for backup Pg's would be 1. Miller and 2. Felton, both of these are pretty realistic for the MLE. We really need a solid backup PG and despite what most people think, Douglas had some solid games under Woodson last season.
    A PG rotation of Lin - Miller/Felton - Douglas is vastly improved from last year.

    Shump will probably take till feb/march to be back to his form and funnily enough I think it is possible for us too become too stacked at the SG position later in the season. Unless Ray Allen is willing to come for the Bi-Annual let's give him a pass. Deshawn Stevenson could be had for that money and provides great defense and above average 3pt shooting. By keeping Fields he can get some minutes at the SG but also share the backup SF duties with Novak.

    I really don't think back up center is that big of a need, sure it would be great so grab Camby. But Stat should see some time at center with Chandler on the bench to fully utilise his scoring, Jeffries & Stat can alternate between the PF/C positions when Chandler is sitting.

    Either way a lineup of:

    Lin - Miller/Felton - Douglas
    Stevenson - Smith - Shump - Fields
    Melo - Novak - Fields
    Amare - Jeffries - Novak
    Chandler - Jeffries - JJ

    Has us set for a solid run next year.

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    Nyk Logo Fill in needs

    We have to address needs this year

    Pay for another 2nd round pick!

    I believe we have to lock up atleast two decent point guards this off season.

    The ideal scenerio for PG would be to draft one guy like Scott Machado or Darius Johnson-Odom....then sign someone like Jason Kidd or Andre Miller as our backup with the draft pick as our 3rd string so we don't have Toney Douglas ballhandling anymore


    The biggest need is outside shooting, The Heat won the championship because of guys like Battier, Miller and Chalmers knocking down outside shots.

    This is where a draft prospect like Kim English and/or free agents like Ray Allen and Shannon Brown can be useful. We need players to spread the floor for Lin, Melo and Amare to drive to the hoop.

    I lost my confidence in Landry Fields and I believe JR Smith will sign the player option. Fields does not help spread the floor, therefore he is useless on this team.

    For the forward position I would like someone from the draft like Kevin Jones, he averaged 10.9 rebounds and 4.3 offensive rebounds a game.

    Needs in order:

    Backup PG
    SG that is an outside threat
    Forward that can bring hustle and rebounding, a younger version of Jared Jeffries

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    Terrel Harris could be a good option for a spark off the bench should J.R. opt out. Great perimeter defense, can hit the outside shot, good shooter of balance, etc.

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    Originally Posted by 21 Shump Street
    Pending this bird rights ruling stays in our favour and we resign Lin, Novak, Jeffries & Fields, I think a few things need to happen.

    Our biggest need is to strengthen our back court, and if we are being realistic, our Full MLE will be needed to secure a backup PG while our Bi-Annual will be needed to bolster the SG spot.

    I really think Nash is a pipe dream at this point, and my preference for backup Pg's would be 1. Miller and 2. Felton, both of these are pretty realistic for the MLE. We really need a solid backup PG and despite what most people think, Douglas had some solid games under Woodson last season.
    A PG rotation of Lin - Miller/Felton - Douglas is vastly improved from last year.

    Shump will probably take till feb/march to be back to his form and funnily enough I think it is possible for us too become too stacked at the SG position later in the season. Unless Ray Allen is willing to come for the Bi-Annual let's give him a pass. Deshawn Stevenson could be had for that money and provides great defense and above average 3pt shooting. By keeping Fields he can get some minutes at the SG but also share the backup SF duties with Novak.

    I really don't think back up center is that big of a need, sure it would be great so grab Camby. But Stat should see some time at center with Chandler on the bench to fully utilise his scoring, Jeffries & Stat can alternate between the PF/C positions when Chandler is sitting.

    Either way a lineup of:

    Lin - Miller/Felton - Douglas
    Stevenson - Smith - Shump - Fields
    Melo - Novak - Fields
    Amare - Jeffries - Novak
    Chandler - Jeffries - JJ

    Has us set for a solid run next year.
    If Nash is not attainable I wouldn't mind Jason Kidd as an alternative PG option, even at his age. I don't think DeShawn Stevenson is the right choice for this team, he really is not a good shooter (career 33% from beyond the arc) & is more of a spot up guy, not someone who can run off screens to get open shots.

    We need someone who can consistently knock down an open J in order to be able to spread the floor to open passing & penetrating lanes for guys like Lin & Melo. Ray Allen is perfect because he gets himself open by running his man off screens all the time. We need guys who can play off the ball who won't just stand around twiddling their thumbs while Lin & Melo have the ball in their hands.

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    #1 Getting Stat to post n play more defense instead bashing Twitter Followers..

    #2...Sign Combo Guards that can defend n handle the ball... Houston's Lee 6-6 defender Combo Guard... ...Spurs Green...

    #3..another big Body to play defense...Reggie Evans Camby

    #4 ..NOt overpay Lin and have Veteran back up that may need to start...NAsh is a last resort...Felton or Flynn.

    #5..Don't sign Novak.. maybe Jr Smith but with Caution...Ray Allen would be more sense coming off the bench but has old legs...could better 6th man...

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    Update****

    Reports are coming out that Ray Allen may favor the Heat. They could amnesty Mike Miller and give Ray Allen the 3 Million. However if they knicks are pushing the cap boundaries so are the Heat and their owner may not be as readily a spender and Dolan so thats in the air.

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    Also Randy Foye has expressed interest in coming to the knicks as a Guard. This makes a lot of sense considering the current bottleneck at G that the clippers have and Foye already knows his role as a back up G and had the 2nd highest 3pt % last season.

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    I am ok with Randy Foye over Ray Allen, he's not as good as Allen but he is younger than Allen and would likely fit in better since he can help bolster both guard positions with limited minutes at PG and minutes at SG as well.
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    Originally Posted by Wargames
    Update****

    Reports are coming out that Ray Allen may favor the Heat. They could amnesty Mike Miller and give Ray Allen the 3 Million. However if they knicks are pushing the cap boundaries so are the Heat and their owner may not be as readily a spender and Dolan so thats in the air.

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    Also Randy Foye has expressed interest in coming to the knicks as a Guard. This makes a lot of sense considering the current bottleneck at G that the clippers have and Foye already knows his role as a back up G and had the 2nd highest 3pt % last season.

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    I am ok with Randy Foye over Ray Allen, he's not as good as Allen but he is younger than Allen and would likely fit in better since he can help bolster both guard positions with limited minutes at PG and minutes at SG as well.
    I wouldn't mind foye he could shine in this system he can play the 2 or the 1 and give us much needed depth in both those areas, i see him as a poor mans OJ Mayo.

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    if the heat amnestied miller, wouldn't he be a better option? Miller is the one guy i wouldn't mind moving to NY from MIA.

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