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    Originally Posted by CA7
    I'm hoping to try and swing a trade for Tayshaun Prince

    Problem is it means losing out on Camby

    Kidd gets the MLE

    use the scrub package Douglas, Gadzuric, Jordan, Harrellson and some cash plus a pick for Prince, this guarantees Detroit major cap room in 2013 after using the amnesty clause on Villanueva

    We can then sign Jared Jeffries back and use the bi annual exception on Kenyon Martin and a vet minimum salary for Daniel Orton a guy who could learn from Chandler after getting no shot in Orlando

    Then re-signing JR and Novak probably bringing on Junior Junior Swish as our 3rd PG gives us a very good roster

    G- Lin/Kidd/Smith
    G- Smith/White/Shumpert
    F- Anthony/Prince/Novak
    F- Stoudemire/Martin
    C- Chandler/Jeffries/Orton

    Prince could act as our Battier
    Martin as our Haslem

    2 guys who add to our already solid defense pushing us into elite category
    We need Camby to allow our defense to hold up when TC is on the bench, last year i begged god every game to not let him get in early foul trouble. Plus Princes contract is horrible isn't it?

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    Originally Posted by BIG APPLE SPORTS
    We need Camby to allow our defense to hold up when TC is on the bench, last year i begged god every game to not let him get in early foul trouble. Plus Princes contract is horrible isn't it?
    I feel you nothing like being able to rest Chandler and have Camby in there instead of STAT or Jeffries protecting the rim

    Prince's deal is bad for Detroit because they suck and no matter how good he plays they wont be any better

    He could really help us as a 3/4 off the bench playing off of our 1-2 Punch in STAT and Melo well, hits the corner 3, can defend, great glue guy.

    If Camby somehow took the BAE, Kidd MLE(3mil) and the scrubs for Prince that would be ****ing awesome

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    Default Camby's defense is still awesome

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    Lol that is the definition of hustle.


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    Originally Posted by CA7
    I feel you nothing like being able to rest Chandler and have Camby in there instead of STAT or Jeffries protecting the rim

    Prince's deal is bad for Detroit because they suck and no matter how good he plays they wont be any better

    He could really help us as a 3/4 off the bench playing off of our 1-2 Punch in STAT and Melo well, hits the corner 3, can defend, great glue guy.

    If Camby somehow took the BAE, Kidd MLE(3mil) and the scrubs for Prince that would be ****ing awesome
    Originally Posted by BIG APPLE SPORTS
    We need Camby to allow our defense to hold up when TC is on the bench, last year i begged god every game to not let him get in early foul trouble. Plus Princes contract is horrible isn't it?

    Repped, both good post

    To add on Jeffries goes through injury problems alot in the season and Tyson tends to get in foul trouble most of the time as stated, sometimes Tyson has to even tone down his defense just so he can keep himself in the game which makes us more vulnerable in the paint. Now Chandler can remain a little more aggressive knowing he has legit backup insurance that can spare him at least 25 minutes per game. Come playoff time Camby will be BIG for us, he's exactly the kind of Vet big you want coming off the bench to keep the defensive presence in the paint down low and Rebound the ball (9 RPG last season).

    Some people complain about his age, yes this is not the 90's anymore and Camby has slowed down but a (38) year old Camby off the (bench) is a MAJOR improvement down low for us. He's not going to Get you alot of points but he does covers alot of weaknesses we had coming off the bench which was an interior defensive presence and Rebounding.

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    Originally Posted by BIG APPLE SPORTS
    We need Camby to allow our defense to hold up when TC is on the bench, last year i begged god every game to not let him get in early foul trouble. Plus Princes contract is horrible isn't it?
    We are addressing depth, I think we need to address the TWO (SG). This article though basically says the same thing about Camby.

    One source said the Knicks have been “very aggressive’’ in pursuing the free agent and have a “very good shot’’ at landing him, already having talked to the Rockets about a sign-and-trade for Camby, who played for the Knicks from 1998-2002.
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    That indicates that possibly TD, JORTS, or Jordan may go with the S&T

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    Media Updated article

    Looks lke JR at the Two

    Camby to meet today


    Miami no longer is a favorite to land Camby after giving their mid-level exception to Ray Allen, but center is a key position for the Heat, and they are willing to do a sign-and-trade with the Rockets.
    A source said the Nets, Mavericks and Spurs also are interested in Camby. The Nets would be torpedoing their shot at Dwight Howard if they joined the fray.
    The Knicks probably canít do sign-and-trades to acquire both Jason Kidd and Camby and still retain their $3.09 million mid-level exception. The Knicks may decide ó if Camby agrees to join them ó to sign Kidd via the $3.09 million mid-level exception (a three-year $9.3 million package) and do the sign-and-trade with the Rockets and not the Mavericks.
    That appears to be the holdup on any sign-and-trade with Dallas to complete the Kidd acquisition. The Knicks still need to see what assets they have to deal to the Rockets, for whom Camby played the last 19 games of the 2011-12 season.
    The Knicksí chief asset to build contract money is Dan Gadzuricís $1.4 million veteran minimum deal. Toney Douglasí $2 million expiring contract is another asset The partially guaranteed final-year deals of centers Josh Harrellson and Jerome Jordan are also assets, as are second-round picks.
    The Knicks also have an aggregate $3 million in cash to throw into a deal. On July 1, their ability to add money to a trade package was restored. Teams are only allowed to put a total of $3 million into a deal in a season.
    The Knicks have pursued Camby for what amounts to four seasons, always making bids at the trading deadline. At the end of his stint with the Knicks, Camby was dealt unceremoniously on draft night in 2002, along with Nene and Mark Jackson, to the Nuggets in a disaster of a deal for Antonio McDyess.
    The Knicks have their eye on Camby as a better big man off the bench than anyone they have. The club has thought of bringing back Jared Jeffries, but his knee trouble is a concern. The Post reported in April Jeffries would consider going to Germany for the controversial blood-therapy program and he did, leaving soon after the Knicks were eliminated in the first round of the playoffs.
    Camby, who was drafted by Toronto in 1996, when Grunwald helped run the Raptors draft, already has talked with the Knicksí front office on the phone. Camby is not interested in the $1.4 million veteranís minimum.
    If Harrellson and Jordan are traded, the Knicksí Summer League team will be rendered meaningless. They wonít have a draft pick to play because Kostas Papanikolaou was with the Greek National Team in Venezuela for the Olympic Qualifying Tournament. Greece was eliminated last night, but he canít play in the Summer League because heís under contract.
    The Knicks still have not re-signed Steve Novak. His agent, Mark Bartelstein, said he is still talking to a few teams. The Knicks do not want to overpay, even if they can sign him with their Bird exception.
    J.R. Smith is expected to re-sign for the 20 percent salary bump for one-year, $2.85 million.
    There didnít seem to be a big market for Smith. The Clippers, who had interest in Smith after he returned from China in February, backed away and used their full mid-level exception on Jamal Crawford. Smithís lousy playoffs and recent arrest didnít help.
    The Knicks still have on their radar Spanish League point guard Pablo Prigioni, who is four years younger than Kidd. He is looking for a little more than the minimum and the Knicks have to find a way. The Knicks already have signed Italian Leaguer James White, an athletic swingman with 10 NBA games under his belt.
    The Post reported exclusively Jeremy Linís offer sheet from the Rockets will be matched by the Knicks sometime after July 11. Lin is not expected in Las Vegas to rejoin the Select Team, from which he withdrew because of his contract status


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    Kidd, SG, White, Jeffries, Camby = defensive powerhouse.

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    Alan Hahn
    Knicks envision this starting five next season: Jeremy Lin, J.R. Smith, Carmelo Anthony, Amar'e Stoudemire and Tyson Chandler. With a bench unit of: Jason Kidd, Steve Novak, Marcus Camby, James White and Josh Harrellson, with Iman Shumpert returning from injury by mid-season. Depth at the SG spot is an issue until Shumpert returns, which is why the team will monitor available names for vets min when the dust settles on free agency. Potential candidates so far: Michael Redd, Rudy Fernandez and Roger Mason Jr. Names such as Randy Foye, Courtney Lee and Shannon Brown should be out of vets min range.
    about 2 hours ago

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    Add the Clippers to teams interested in Rockets free agent C Marcus Camby, a source said. Nets to set up meeting. NY & MIA still interested.

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    I'd get concerned about losing JR now

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    J.R is taking a little longer then i expected to bring back. Not that we've met em and he doesnt want to sign, but the market for him is quiet maybe after July 11th we'll pick up and lock him up but im still queasy,

    Camby looks to be returning and i love it. were the favorites so far to land em now if only we capitalize and lock em up. he'd be the perfect fit in NY

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    Originally Posted by Almost_famous718
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    Knicks envision this starting five next season: Jeremy Lin, J.R. Smith, Carmelo Anthony, Amar'e Stoudemire and Tyson Chandler. With a bench unit of: Jason Kidd, Steve Novak, Marcus Camby, James White and Josh Harrellson, with Iman Shumpert returning from injury by mid-season. Depth at the SG spot is an issue until Shumpert returns, which is why the team will monitor available names for vets min when the dust settles on free agency. Potential candidates so far: Michael Redd, Rudy Fernandez and Roger Mason Jr. Names such as Randy Foye, Courtney Lee and Shannon Brown should be out of vets min range.
    about 2 hours ago

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    Still think Kidd will be playing the 2 more often than we realize due to Shumps injury

    And people are forgetting the log jam we will have at the guard spot once Shump returns if we add a legit guard.

    But maybe im over analyzing this.

    Once Shump returns bench will be:

    Kidd
    J.R
    White
    Novak
    Camby

    Jeffries spot minutes.

    I love that....I guess White would be the odd man out if we signed a legit guard like Michael Redd.

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    Im guessing we didnt convince camby today....Not a good sign

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