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    Default Brooklyn gets Joe Johnson...possibly Howard?

    David Aldridge: Breaking: Nets "very close" to acquiring Joe Johnson from Hawks for Farmar, Petro, Morrow, Williams, Stevenson and protected pick (Houston). Twitter

    Brooklyn is acquiring Joe Johnson....will they trade Johnson for Dwight Howard so the Magic get Lopez and Johnson?

    Whether they keep Johnson or not, if D Will stayed they would be a playoff team.

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    Yeah I would. Im not sure why everyone is saying that this is the nets giving up on Howard...

    If anything this is the Nets doing their best to do something to get howard. Nothing they can give now will give the Magic anything they want. But if I got offered Joe Johnson if I was the magic I would trade for him. Its better than nothing I guess.

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    Anybody would, but its not going to happen.
    The nets are settling for this, they moved on from DH.
    No way Orlando would accept such deal. Also, i heard that Orlando wouldn't talk to the nets about a deal, that's why Brooklyn took this road.

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    Done and done, apparently. Conditional on Deron Williams re-signing.

    And they didn't give up **** expect for Anthony Morrow (another pure SG when they are stacked there already, especially since they keep Green and Brooks in this deal).

    Looking like the Nyets' wild gambit(s) are going to actually pay off in spades, and like a masterfully played poker hand.

    Deron
    JoeJ
    Wallace
    Humphries
    Lopez

    6th Brooks/Green

    + a 5M and minnie mid exceptions to spend.

    Sighs.


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    Originally Posted by Forrest17
    Yeah I would. Im not sure why everyone is saying that this is the nets giving up on Howard...

    If anything this is the Nets doing their best to do something to get howard. Nothing they can give now will give the Magic anything they want. But if I got offered Joe Johnson if I was the magic I would trade for him. Its better than nothing I guess.
    thats not the nets plan. they didnt get johnson to trade him to orlando.. theyre gonna trade brooks, lopez, humphries, and some picks to orlando and try to have a powerhouse team with williams,wallace,johnson, and dwight

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    Originally Posted by Hayato
    thats not the nets plan. they didnt get johnson to trade him to orlando.. theyre gonna trade brooks, lopez, humphries, and some picks to orlando and try to have a powerhouse team with williams,wallace,johnson, and dwight
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    Originally Posted by NY17KNICKS
    again, you miss the fact that would not be possible to DUE TO MONEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
    theyd have the money

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    yeah and how is that?

    Gerald Wallace resigned, DWill signed, Joe Johnson signed =NOTHING FOR BIG BITCH

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    WOW, they moved Joe Johnsons terrible contract and all it took was some expiring contracts to dump his salary. Nice move by ATL.

    As for the Nyets

    Deron
    Joe Johnson
    Wallace
    Hump
    Lopez

    6th-8th seed playoff team at best.

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    ^ if the Nets are 6th to 8th at best, then barring some great moves by us, we will be lucky to make the playoffs.

    The Nets are locked, with very few question marks, and a pretty decent amount of upside. 6th or 7th seed at worst, a dangerous 3rd or 4th seed if some things break their way.

    Unless Nash comes, I would bet a lot that the Nets finish with a better record than us next year.

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    Originally Posted by iSaYughh
    ^ if the Nets are 6th to 8th at best, then barring some great moves by us, we will be lucky to make the playoffs.

    The Nets are locked, with very few question marks, and a pretty decent amount of upside. 6th or 7th seed at worst, a dangerous 3rd or 4th seed if some things break their way.

    Unless Nash comes, I would bet a lot that the Nets finish with a better record than us next year.
    Deron Williams
    Joe Johnson
    Wallace
    Humpries
    Lopez


    This team is no better than Atlanta the past 6 seasons!

    They have a better backcourt...we have a better frontcourt and will be a deeper team.


    This is dumb move by The Nets to keep Deron Williams....honestly if I was Deron Williams because of this move I would choose Dallas.

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    Too much overhyping our boys, and indiscriminately negging other players/squads. Reminds me of the insane lack of understanding on that many had for so long about how superor Lebron is.

    ATL:

    Jeff Teague
    JoeJ
    Marvin Williams
    JSmith
    Horford -- edit -- who was injured last year, but I'll assume was healthy

    Deron Williams alone is better than every single player on that roster. And this is a PG driven league, and they just got one of the very best:

    Heat -- Lebron

    OKC -- Westbrook

    Bulls -- Rose

    Celtics -- Rondo

    What did we lack all season that ****ed us up so bad? PG

    What did we gain during a stretch where our ship was righted and we had real promise: PG

    JoeJ a wash between the teams, tho now that he as a stud PG, he should be even more effective and not have to worry so much about distributing.

    Wallace is 10x the player Marvin Williams is. And he fits great on the team.

    Note: the Nets team *fits*. As Knick fans, I understand we haven't actually experienced this phenomina in about a decade, but it exists.

    Smith is better than Humphries -- Smith is also wild, and plays like he is the offensive centerpiece of ATL....which is one reason ATL never goes that far. Humphries rebounds and scores through mop up work at a high level, and a very efficient level. Exactly what they need from their PF.

    Horford is definitely better than Lopez. Both have some health concerns. Assuming they both are healthy: Horford's biggest strengths comparatively are rebounding and distribution of the rock -- two things the Nets are set at with Deron/JJ, Wallace/Humphrie tandems.

    The Nets, in pure total talent, are superior to the ATL teams you mention.

    But just as vital, they fit much better, and fit very well together (on paper, anyhow).

    The combination of this, would suggest a team much superior to ATL -- i.e., a notch below the upper crust of the NBA, with some potential for more given Brooks' talent as 6th man, and Lopez' upside.

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    ATL finished as the 5th seed. And again, this was w/o Al Horford -- their best overall player.

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    Originally Posted by iSaYughh
    Too much overhyping our boys, and indiscriminately negging other players/squads. Reminds me of the insane lack of understanding on that many had for so long about how superor Lebron is.

    ATL:

    Jeff Teague
    JoeJ
    Marvin Williams
    JSmith
    Horford -- edit -- who was injured last year, but I'll assume was healthy

    Deron Williams alone is better than every single player on that roster. And this is a PG driven league, and they just got one of the very best:

    Heat -- Lebron

    OKC -- Westbrook

    Bulls -- Rose

    Celtics -- Rondo

    What did we lack all season that ****ed us up so bad? PG

    What did we gain during a stretch where our ship was righted and we had real promise: PG

    JoeJ a wash between the teams, tho now that he as a stud PG, he should be even more effective and not have to worry so much about distributing.

    Wallace is 10x the player Marvin Williams is. And he fits great on the team.

    Note: the Nets team *fits*. As Knick fans, I understand we haven't actually experienced this phenomina in about a decade, but it exists.

    Smith is better than Humphries -- Smith is also wild, and plays like he is the offensive centerpiece of ATL....which is one reason ATL never goes that far. Humphries rebounds and scores through mop up work at a high level, and a very efficient level. Exactly what they need from their PF.

    Horford is definitely better than Lopez. Both have some health concerns. Assuming they both are healthy: Horford's biggest strengths comparatively are rebounding and distribution of the rock -- two things the Nets are set at with Deron/JJ, Wallace/Humphrie tandems.

    The Nets, in pure total talent, are superior to the ATL teams you mention.

    But just as vital, they fit much better, and fit very well together (on paper, anyhow).

    The combination of this, would suggest a team much superior to ATL -- i.e., a notch below the upper crust of the NBA, with some potential for more given Brooks' talent as 6th man, and Lopez' upside.

    I agree on some, disagree on other points you have made.

    Joe Johnson's play will not change based on his backcourt mate, like you said it will be a wash.

    But my comparison to Atlanta does not mean the makeup of the teams are identical, so your head to head comparison to Atlanta is highly misleading. not to mention you mentioned nothing of Atlanta's bench (Ivan Johnson,Pachulia and Willie Green), but that honestly does not matter.

    I used Atlanta because they are relevant to the topic, but you can easily compare this Nets team to Memphis, Nuggets, Dallas or Indiana....a playoff team for sure, but formidable?

    You mentioned their starting five and 6th man, but then what? Plus they have two untradable players in Joe Johnson and Wallace....and depending on what they give Humphries he could be a 3rd, meaning this will be the team they move with.

    You talk about how well they fit, but if any of those players with the exception of Humphries misses any time then they are dramactially different, if either Williams or Johnson misses they are a lottery team again!

    Look there is a natural bias here, I am a Knicks fan, these cowards are now in our territory so I wish them nothing but the worst....but hate a side, I am not at all intimated by this team!

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    Originally Posted by New New York
    Deron Williams
    Joe Johnson
    Wallace
    Humpries
    Lopez


    This team is no better than Atlanta the past 6 seasons!

    They have a better backcourt...we have a better frontcourt and will be a deeper team.


    This is dumb move by The Nets to keep Deron Williams....honestly if I was Deron Williams because of this move I would choose Dallas.
    but how would

    williams
    johnson
    wallace
    turkoglu
    howard

    look to you?

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