2012-2013 Official Knicks Roster

Kidd Karma

Benchwarmer
An athletic 2 guard is the major need at this point...CJ Miles? Anything interesting on the Raptors roster we can raid in sign and trade for Landry?
 

NYk_Reloaded718

★KNICKS-TAPE★
Give K-Mart the Bae

and sign Iverson for Vet min

we would have the 06 nuggets:smokin:

Iverson
Jr smith
Melo
K-mart
Camby
 

NYk_Reloaded718

★KNICKS-TAPE★
on a serious note I asked Jared Zwirling on twitter if the Knicks still had teh BAE and he said no.
Damn well that sucks, oh well at least we still have gadz contract to S&T which is about a little under 2mill... could be a extra asset mini Bae we can still use
 

Fat Elvis

Benchwarmer
Projected Stats for Knicks in 2012-13

Melo - 24ppg, 6.5 rpg, 3apg
Stat - 19ppg, 8rpg, 1.5 bpg
Chandler - 12ppg, 10rpg, 1.8bpg
Lin - 16ppg, 8apg, 2spg
JR - 13ppg, 4rpg, 3apg

Novak - 9ppg
Camby - 8ppg, 7rpg. 1.5bpg (in 25 mpg)
Kidd - 5ppg, 4apg (in 20 mpg)
Shump - 12ppg, 4rpg
Jeffries - 3ppg, 3rpg

They still need a third point guard and another shooting guard to hold them off until Shump returns, but they're looking decent so far.
 

gmf1369

Benchwarmer
Starting Lineup:

PG: Jason Kidd
SG: J.R. Smith
SF: Carmelo Anthony
PF: Amar'e Stoudemire
C: Tyson Chandler

Bench:

PG: Jeremy Lin
G/F: James White
SF: Steve Novak
F/C: Jared Jeffries ???
C: Marcus Camby
C: Dan Gadzuric


Other:

Kostas Papanikolaou

IR:

Iman Shumpert

Knick's Brass looking at both G/F Dahntay Jones and G Randy Foye

Besides being an older Celtic style team, we have a chance to be more complete then the last two years. Durability is still our Achilles heel... Everyone needs to stay healthy at least going into the playoffs, where we could make a run at a Championship...
 

knickerbocker12

Benchwarmer
add in pablo.

Starting Lineup:

PG: Jason Kidd
SG: J.R. Smith
SF: Carmelo Anthony
PF: Amar'e Stoudemire
C: Tyson Chandler

Bench:

PG: Jeremy Lin
G/F: James White
SF: Steve Novak
F/C: Jared Jeffries ???
C: Marcus Camby
C: Dan Gadzuric


Other:

Kostas Papanikolaou

IR:

Iman Shumpert

Knick's Brass looking at both G/F Dahntay Jones and G Randy Foye

Besides being an older Celtic style team, we have a chance to be more complete then the last two years. Durability is still our Achilles heel... Everyone needs to stay healthy at least going into the playoffs, where we could make a run at a Championship...
 

Paul1355

All Star
:mrgreen:

Starting Lineup:

PG: Jason Kidd
SG: J.R. Smith
SF: Carmelo Anthony
PF: Amar'e Stoudemire
C: Tyson Chandler

Bench:

PG: Jeremy Lin
PG: Pablo Prigioni
G/F: James White
SF: Steve Novak
F/C: Jared Jeffries ???
C: Marcus Camby
C: Dan Gadzuric


Other:

G/F: Kostas Papanikolaou

IR:

G: Iman Shumpert

Knick's Brass looking at both G/F Dahntay Jones and G Randy Foye

:mrgreen:
Dude Jeremy Lin is starting over Jason Kidd

And Mike Woodson confirmed it today...Nate Taylor: Mike Woodson said Jeremy Lin will be the starter when the team matches Houston's offer. Twitter

Why would we pay 5 mil a year for someone that is backup to a 3 mil a year player??
 

gmf1369

Benchwarmer
Dude Jeremy Lin is starting over Jason Kidd

And Mike Woodson confirmed it today...Nate Taylor: Mike Woodson said Jeremy Lin will be the starter when the team matches Houston's offer. Twitter

Why would we pay 5 mil a year for someone that is backup to a 3 mil a year player??

Lin might be named starter but things "COULD" change by season opener. Kidd proven winner, pass first PG at this point of his career better suited for this starting lineup, but we will see. What is said now doesn't hold much water.

Lin is a future investment, Kidd is a chip to win now! Knicks would of paid more in a sign & trade but Dallas wasn't having any part of that. So for the BAE, Kidd took it. Kidd is also a proven winner. Lin right now is a hot commodity and his pay is more then his "RAW" Potential is worth. 3 years + Team option, he has room to develop or flop! Come the fourth year who knows, TEAM OPTION = YES/NO

:thumbsup:
 
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Kiyaman

Legend
Lin might be named starter but things "COULD" change by season opener. Kidd proven winner, pass first PG at this point of his career better suited for this starting lineup, but we will see. What is said now doesn't hold much water.

Lin is a future investment, Kidd is a chip to win now! Knicks would of paid more in a sign & trade but Dallas wasn't having any part of that. So for the BAE, Kidd took it. Kidd is also a proven winner. Lin right now is a hot commodity and his pay is more then his "RAW" Potential is worth. 3 years + Team option, he has room to develop or flop! Come the fourth year who knows, TEAM OPTION = YES/NO

:thumbsup:


This is Jason Kidds team now .. it will be Kidds decision what games Lin start, and what games Lin dont start. The Knicks are a TEAM now...
 

NY17KNICKS

★Melo Mafia★
Marc Berman
While Woodson said Lin wears the starter jersey when training camp opens in October, Carmelo piped in it might be good for Jeremy to come off bench behind Kidd. “If [Lin] comes off the bench, playing behind a guy like Jason Kidd, playing under a guy and learning from Kidd, he should take advantage of this opportunity — just having JKidd on our team,’’ Anthony said. No doubt Melo has ball more in his hands when Kidd is on court. But I hope that's not what he's thinking. Read more at the New York Post ›

Some of you guys will have a field day with that statement :teeth:
 

Crazy⑧s

Evacuee
Marc Berman
While Woodson said Lin wears the starter jersey when training camp opens in October, Carmelo piped in it might be good for Jeremy to come off bench behind Kidd. ?If [Lin] comes off the bench, playing behind a guy like Jason Kidd, playing under a guy and learning from Kidd, he should take advantage of this opportunity ? just having JKidd on our team,?? Anthony said. No doubt Melo has ball more in his hands when Kidd is on court. But I hope that's not what he's thinking. Read more at the New York Post ?

Some of you guys will have a field day with that statement :teeth:

I'd have to agree with him.

It wouldn't be a step backwards to not start at the beginning of the season, or the entirety of the season, for that matter.

Whatever's best is best. I think we can rely on both Lin and Woodson to want to make that happen.
 

Paul1355

All Star
Lin might be named starter but things "COULD" change by season opener. Kidd proven winner, pass first PG at this point of his career better suited for this starting lineup, but we will see. What is said now doesn't hold much water.

Lin is a future investment, Kidd is a chip to win now! Knicks would of paid more in a sign & trade but Dallas wasn't having any part of that. So for the BAE, Kidd took it. Kidd is also a proven winner. Lin right now is a hot commodity and his pay is more then his "RAW" Potential is worth. 3 years + Team option, he has room to develop or flop! Come the fourth year who knows, TEAM OPTION = YES/NO

:thumbsup:

What Lin during Linsanity made him stand out as a legit starting PG. Kidd can not do half of what Lin did during Linsanity. The old Kidd would have started over Lin but Kidd is now 39, he is a good backup.

Lin should start he is better and getting paid more, period.

Kidd and Lin will most likely play at the same time as well now that we have Priogioni as a 3rd PG.
 

NYk_Reloaded718

★KNICKS-TAPE★
Marc Berman
While Woodson said Lin wears the starter jersey when training camp opens in October, Carmelo piped in it might be good for Jeremy to come off bench behind Kidd. ?If [Lin] comes off the bench, playing behind a guy like Jason Kidd, playing under a guy and learning from Kidd, he should take advantage of this opportunity ? just having JKidd on our team,?? Anthony said. No doubt Melo has ball more in his hands when Kidd is on court. But I hope that's not what he's thinking. Read more at the New York Post ?

Some of you guys will have a field day with that statement :teeth:
I actually think Lin coming off the bench is better for Lin, i think woody already said Lin will start but Lin coming off the bench gives Lin more of chance to be more aggressive and play the more attacking style he favors + it also gives our bench that extra scoring boost.

With Jason kidd in the starting Lineup, i feel will control the tempo a little better and make sure things don't get out of hand. Chandler+kidd i love it, i know JLIN and Tyson had great chemistry but Kidd&Chandler i feel the chemistry on the court will be even GREATER.

Either way we will probably see alot of Jason kidd and Lin on the Floor together next season, weather it be Jason kidd in the starting lineup or Jeremy Lin you cant go wrong either way both are great PG's
 

gmf1369

Benchwarmer
What Lin during Linsanity made him stand out as a legit starting PG. Kidd can not do half of what Lin did during Linsanity. The old Kidd would have started over Lin but Kidd is now 39, he is a good backup.

Lin should start he is better and getting paid more, period.

Kidd and Lin will most likely play at the same time as well now that we have Priogioni as a 3rd PG.

Your backward thinking is what is off... Jeremy Lin is an up tempo point guard like Steve Nash but no where refined... Jason Kidd & Pablo Prigioni at this point in their careers are no better then a "PASS FIRST POINT GUARD", and for our starting lineup with Melo, Smith, & Stat that are scorers they need a pass first point guard rather than an up tempo pg who causes many turnovers.

Lin coming off the bench gives two things:

Up tempo energy & from what we have on the bench would be the scorer


Jeremy Lin needs to improve his ball handling, recognition of what he is seeing, understanding he is the couch on the court, on the ball defense as well could improve...

Lin could become a spark off the bench, but Knicks and Melo want to win now, to do that you want a Veteran Point Guard to guide these 3 scorers is the best way to get it done. Is Kidd the best option, yes he just won a Championship two years ago from doing what he will do for us be pass first point guard.

Lin is our future, not our now. But you see the $ dollar signs on why he should start you are as foolish as those comments that were made by the coaching staff. He will be a part of the team, and learn from experienced players in his position while training and proving he is ready to take those reigns.

LinSanity was a fad, something made to sell Merchandise. 25 games NOT the full season... LinSation was all good points but we saw the negative ones because we are the true fans... Jeremy Lin won a few games but because of his turnovers we lost just as many... Lin is getting paid because of his hot commodity right now, is it justified ~ NO!
Everyone is looking at the marketability of the New York Hype surrounding this kid, unfortunately he is still 50/50 on what type of player he could be! We hope he will be that guy, but from a skill set Jeremy Lin has "RAW POTENTIAL"!
Get your facts straight!
 
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CA7

Scoring Champ
To be honest Lin should come off the bench but he wont

If we were starting Shumpert, I'd take Lin in the starting line up but with Smith as the 2 we need a legit pass first PG which Lin is not in the starting line up
 

Paul1355

All Star
Your backward thinking is what is off... Jeremy Lin is an up tempo point guard like Steve Nash but no where refined... Jason Kidd & Pablo Prigioni at this point in their careers are no better then a "PASS FIRST POINT GUARD", and for our starting lineup with Melo, Smith, & Stat that are scorers they need a pass first point guard rather than an up tempo pg who causes many turnovers.

Lin coming off the bench gives two things:

Up tempo energy & from what we have on the bench would be the scorer


Jeremy Lin needs to improve his ball handling, recognition of what he is seeing, understanding he is the couch on the court, on the ball defense as well could improve...

Lin could become a spark off the bench, but Knicks and Melo want to win now, to do that you want a Veteran Point Guard to guide these 3 scorers is the best way to get it done. Is Kidd the best option, yes he just won a Championship two years ago from doing what he will do for us be pass first point guard.

Lin is our future, not our now. But you see the $ dollar signs on why he should start you are as foolish as those comments that were made by the coaching staff. He will be a part of the team, and learn from experienced players in his position while training and proving he is ready to take those reigns.

LinSanity was a fad, something made to sell Merchandise. 25 games NOT the full season... LinSation was all good points but we saw the negative ones because we are the true fans... Jeremy Lin won a few games but because of his turnovers we lost just as many... Lin is getting paid because of his hot commodity right now, is it justified ~ NO!
Everyone is looking at the marketability of the New York Hype surrounding this kid, unfortunately he is still 50/50 on what type of player he could be! We hope he will be that guy, but from a skill set Jeremy Lin has "RAW POTENTIAL"!
Get your facts straight!

This post sounds like someone who just reads the newspapers and didn't actually watch the games....Lin took over basketball games single handedly and he did it with both Mike D and Woodson as his coach.

Lin made everyone better, he made Novak better, Fields better, hell even Jeffries played better on offense under Lin, Tyson always had nice passes to him... unfortunately the knee injury couldn't prove to you how good he actually is with melo and amare..

One thing I will say is that when melo first came back, Lin did the mistake of sacrificing his offensive game to just pass to Melo. he should play the same way during linsanity and just look to drive every moment he can and kick it out to open players. He deferred to melo too much.

This can learned easily.

His weaknesses can be learned quickly. And when they are, then do you think he should start?

Players who have the ball most of the time have the most turnovers. Look who had the most amount of turnovers per game....Derron Williams had the most at 4 per game...John Wall had 3.9...Steve Nash 3.7...Rajon Rondo 3.6...and all of these guys are elite PG...turnovers come with the position however lin should improve it and he will.

And to say someone is a fast break PG and basically saying can't be effective in a half court with melo, Amare, and Chandler is just as "foolish" as anything I have heard. Good players can adjust. One thing a player in a half court offense needs is a jump shot, the ability to slash at will, and able to run a good pick and roll...Lin can do all of these with ease.

Lin just has to be aggressive and draw defenders to him and you will see ball movement at its finest.

You can watch every Knick game last year and you will see a pattern...a PG that can't drive to the basket can't draw defenders to him which makes the defense focus on the star players like Melo and Amare. Lin drew guys to him and because of that other players were always open and it became a fluid offense with little stagnation.

If there was stagnation, then Lin would just drive to the hoop and draw a foul or make some ridiculous lay up so he WAS ALWAYS EFFECTIVE.

I am not saying he is perfect, but he is the best option at PG for us right now.

Woodson said he will start and the games he will play and the numbers he will put up will keep him a starter because he is too good.

You should watch those games Lin played during linsanity again and honestly tell me that he should sit on the bench for Jason Kidd...please bro.

I just smh thinking about Lin sitting on the bench when the guy is so dynamic.


I know you are just looking at Kidd as the orchestrator and Lin the scorer but Lin can do both...Kidd can't score like he use to which makes him 2nd string PG...its as simple as that.

And yes the dollar signs make a difference...its simple..the guy getting paid more should start and get more minutes. SHOULD.
 
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