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    Originally Posted by orangeblobman
    Kidd is powerful and he can have a positive effect but he is very old compared to the much younger billups in Denver.

    I think you should start kidd over Lin so that kidd will have to set the tone, then Lin.comes in and plays 34 minutes for you

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    Idk, Kidd has been very clear that he wants to be a backup from now on since his body cant take over 20 minutes a game anymore, i like the idea but it is kind of pointless if Lin will end up playing 34 min. Lin has to get thrown in the fire immediately since we are in a win now state. We don't have time for development stages with Lin, he has to learn on the fly.

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    Originally Posted by Kiyaman
    I would rather have Lin, Fields, Novak, under Kidds leadership.
    The ISO-Melo offense is out the window once Kidd enter the lockerroom.
    another recall of when Billups became a Denver Nuggets.
    If Kidd have any say-so JR.Smith will not be a Knicks next season .. I got my money on it.
    Can you physically make a post without having a shot at this.

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    That is one thing I know Kidd will control though, we cant win with just giving the ball to Melo every time and Kidd knows that.

    Kidd wont deal with Melo's **** lmao

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    It's an OK signing. Kidd is at an age that his game may disappear overnight, I would have preferred a 1 year deal or a younger PG that could play starter minutes if Lin goes down. I have a feeling Kidd will be worthless in year 2 and 3.

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    Originally Posted by tiger0330
    It's an OK signing. Kidd is at an age that his game may disappear overnight, I would have preferred a 1 year deal or a younger PG that could play starter minutes if Lin goes down. I have a feeling Kidd will be worthless in year 2 and 3.
    I am thinking he will be here for next year & the year after & will either become trade bait as a low cost expiring contract in year 3 or retire.

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    I have the same feeling. In year 3 he will not be able to get up from the bench, so that if we ever have consecutive home games, he will stay on his bench seat and sleep in the arena, waiting for the next game.

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    They should have given that money to Starbury.

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    People underestimate how important Kidd will be to this team.

    Once Lin went down last year we had Toney Douglas, Mike Bibby, and a 75% Baron Davis at best.

    Davis was inconsistent and was hurt on and off. It took Bibby the whole season to find his shot. Douglas is terrible and needs to be traded.

    What this means is we made the playoffs last year with only having Lin for a short amount of time and no legit backup.

    Imagine what this team can do with a PG orchestrating the offense. With Lin and Kidd we have two for the whole season.

    Think about this people.

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    Kidd was a good move that only adds without subtracting anything from the team. If he is able to pass on some his PG smarts (which he has done a few times before) he could really help groom Lin into a career High Caliber starting PG (I feel he is a starter level now but honestly there was room for improvement).

    Also if the knicks could get Camby I will be happy since a lot of people underestimate how important having Haywood behind Tyson was to the Mavs championship. It allowed Tyson to play even more aggressive on Defense since he knew his absence wouldn't negatively affect the Mavs at the 5.

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    Originally Posted by Wargames
    Kidd was a good move that only adds without subtracting anything from the team. If the knicks could get Camby I will be happy since a lot of people underestimate how important having Haywood behind Tyson was to the Mavs championship. It allowed Tyson to play even more aggressive on Defense since he knew his absence wouldn't negatively affect the Mavs at the 5.
    exactly, many times Tyson would not be as aggressive as usual on defense because he needed to save his energy and/or be careful he didnt pick up any fouls knowing that the team would suffer on defense without him....

    The same goes on offense for Kidd spelling Lin. Lin was usually his aggressive self but could not always be as effective because the guy was playing 40 min a night..with Kidd as the backup, Lin can go full force when he is out there and not worry about the team sucking when he is not on the floor.

    Having depth is key to being a good team. Helps in so many ways.

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    Originally Posted by Paul1355
    exactly, many times Tyson would not be as aggressive as usual on defense because he needed to save his energy and/or be careful he didnt pick up any fouls knowing that the team would suffer on defense without him....

    The same goes on offense for Kidd spelling Lin. Lin was usually his aggressive self but could not always be as effective because the guy was playing 40 min a night..with Kidd as the backup, Lin can go full force when he is out there and not worry about the team sucking when he is not on the floor.

    Having depth is key to being a good team. Helps in so many ways.
    your right Lin could defintely penetrate the paint more if he has little fear of drawing fouls. Hopefully that could lead to him getting more calls for himself as well.

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    Originally Posted by orangeblobman
    I have the same feeling. In year 3 he will not be able to get up from the bench, so that if we ever have consecutive home games, he will stay on his bench seat and sleep in the arena, waiting for the next game.
    classic

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    Originally Posted by orangeblobman
    I have the same feeling. In year 3 he will not be able to get up from the bench, so that if we ever have consecutive home games, he will stay on his bench seat and sleep in the arena, waiting for the next game.
    Hahahaaaaaaaaaaa.......

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    Jason Kidd can never question whether or not Mavericks star Dirk Nowitzki is really his friend. It seems before Kidd decided to head to New York, he was set on staying with Dirk and getting the most that he could out of a return engagement with the Dallas Mavericks.

    Well a couple of funny things happened with that situation according to the Dallas News. The first was the Mavericks lost the Deron Williams sweepstakes and the second was that as a domino effect, Kidd got cold feet.

    When he spoke with Nowitzki gave him a straight shot of honesty.

    “I changed my mind, and Dirk understood,” Kidd said. “When we talked, he said to go to New York.”

    As stated, Deron Williams’s decision played a VERY big role in the outcome of why Kidd changed his mind.

    “Deron, I thought he brought up some very valid points on why he didn’t go to Dallas,” Kidd said. “If it’s just him and Dirk and something happens to Dirk, then Deron’s all alone.”

    Certainly it could not have been just his backpedaling inner voice and Deron Williams that would push him into leaving a team he sat on the championship podium with.

    “I went out to play golf and I just didn’t feel right,” Kidd said last week. “I talked to my wife and to Jeff [Schwartz, his agent] and they both said, if you don’t feel comfortable, don’t do it.”

    It seems that Kidd obviously didn’t take this decision lightly and spoke with his support system to ensure that heading to New York was the right thing to do.

    Regardless of whether or not it was Dirk being a good bro or not, there is something very telling in the fact that he would not push Kidd into staying.

    Is it that he doesn’t see Kidd’s contributions as being that vital? Or did he basically do his boy a solid and let him get off what could be a struggling Mavs train guilt free?

    Those answers will continue to unveil themselves soon enough.


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    No way was Dirk saying "we don't need you".

    Dirk's a stand-up guy and he was telling him, "do what you gotta do, man, we understand".

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    Just goes to show that Dirk and Kidd are stand up guys with a lot of class. You would love to have either of them on your team. Kidd will have as much effect on our back court as Tyson did on our front court. Knicks for 2 or 3 seed in the east.

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