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    Default Its about to go down guys!!!

    Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo! Sports is reporting that the "tentacles" of a 14-player trade involving Dwight Howard are in place and that a deal involving three, or possibly four, teams could be in the works very soon.
    While all the particulars are not yet known, the deal could go down as soon as Monday where Brook Lopez, additional players and multiple draft picks may be going to Orlando, Kris Humphries and a potential pick could be on their way to Cleveland and MarShon Brooks possibly entering the fray as a trade chip going to a fourth team to make the deal work financially. The deal would gut the Nets roster of players, but it would get them to their end goal of finally getting Howard in a Brooklyn uniform. Sources have also said that Magic brass are set for a Monday meeting at 9 am ET to see if this is truly the deal they want to make. The nation's Dwightmare may be close to coming to an end in short order. Stay tuned.

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    Originally Posted by bboycustom92
    Anyone take a look at this? Stephen A Smith is crazy
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    Also another thing we should be worried about...
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    if this goes through... we have a lot to handle in Miami and across bridge in Brooklyn. Looks like NYK is gunna be a 3 or 4 seed. I'm guessing

    1. Heat
    2. Nets(if they get howard)
    3. Knicks
    4. Chicago(maybe, if rose comes back)
    5. Pacers
    6. Celtics
    7. 76ers
    8. Up in smoke....
    Boston seeded at #6? They just got Jason terry, Resigned Bass, KG, Green and bradley will be making a return soon on top of that they drafted Fab Melo and sullinger, They lost Ray allen but still potential have one of the deepest teams in the league if they can stay healthy. I got

    1.Heat
    2.Nets-- (if they acquire Dwight)
    3.Boston-- ( Remember pierce was injured to start the season) if he's healthy + their added depth please don't sleep on this team.
    4.Knicks-- (if they stay injury FREE i would even put them 3rd seed)
    5.Pacers
    6.Bulls-- (unless Rose can make a BIG return )
    7.Sixers
    8.Wizards-- ( Wall, Beal, Ariza, Nene, Oakafor) in the EAST this is a playoff team.
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    1. Heat
    2. Nets
    3. Knicks
    4. Celtics
    5. Hawks
    6. Bulls
    7. 76ers
    8. Pacers

    On the fence
    Cavs
    Raptors

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    Originally Posted by metrocard
    1. Heat
    2. Nets
    3. Knicks
    4. Celtics
    5. Hawks
    6. Bulls
    7. 76ers
    8. Pacers

    On the fence
    Cavs
    Raptors
    Why would the hawks still be in the playoff picture without joe johnson remember they weren't making the playoffs before he got to atlanta let me fix this for you
    1. Heat
    2. Nets
    3. Boston
    4. New york
    5. Pacers
    6. Chicago
    7. Philadelphia
    8. Washington

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    Originally Posted by WeReady
    Why would the hawks still be in the playoff picture without joe johnson remember they weren't making the playoffs before he got to atlanta let me fix this for you
    1. Heat
    2. Nets
    3. Boston
    4. New york
    5. Pacers
    6. Chicago
    7. Philadelphia
    8. Washington
    your list is probably the most realistic possibility.

    Still don't know how the Roy Hibbert situation will pan out, but if the Pacers don't match the max offer the Trailblazers offered Hibert then the Pacers might finish 7th at best.

    NY has the ability to be the 2nd best team but it all depends on Jeremy Lin having everyone gel and having Amare come back to the player he was the first year he came here.

    Washington is a team I did not consider but they will be atleast a .500 team with the whole roster shaping up with Wall, Beal, Ariza, Nene, Okafor...and a bench of Seraphim, Vessly, Jordan Crawford, Booker...and Blatche will prob be amnestied...they have a pretty solid team this year. They have to stay healthy...Nene and Okafor can't stay on the floor.

    I would be happy with Knicks being in top 4 as long as they have home court advantage in the playoffs. And let's be healthy come playoff time for once!!!

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    Proposed Dwight Howard deal to Nets could contain more than 10 players
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    The Orlando Magic have intensified discussions about trading Dwight Howard, and the Brooklyn Nets are rapidly overtaking the Los Angeles Lakers as the strongest contender to land the disenchanted All-Star center, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

    Dwight Howard has listed only one team as his desired trade destination: the Brooklyn Nets. (AP)
    As Orlando sorts through the offers, Howard's potential destination is increasingly looking like the Nets, sources said. The tentacles of the proposed deal stretched across more than 10 players and three teams on Monday morning, with the Nets recruiting a fourth team to take on guard MarShon Brooks in exchange for an additional draft pick to send to Orlando.
    In the proposed deal, Howard, Jason Richardson and Earl Clark would be sent to Brooklyn, and the Magic would receive the Nets' Brook Lopez, Damion James, Sheldon Williams, Cleveland's Luke Walton and three future first-round picks, sources said. Cleveland would receive Orlando's Quentin Richardson, Brooklyn's Sundiata Gaines, Kris Humphries (on a one-year guaranteed deal), a first-round pick and $3 million from the Nets. Brooklyn also would send Brooks to a fourth team to get them an additional first-round pick to send to the Magic.
    Talks between the Magic and Nets remain fluid with some of the deal's parts moving in and out based on different scenarios. One proposed hangup to a trade: Humphries would be against taking a one-year contract with the Cavs, instead seeking a four-year deal, a league source told Y! Sports' Marc Spears.

    Despite Orlando’s desire to make Lakers center Andrew Bynum the centerpiece of a trade package, a significant stumbling block remains in Bynum’s reluctance to commit to a long-term contract if he's traded to the Magic, sources said. Orlando doesn’t want to face the possibility of trading for Bynum only to lose him to free agency after the upcoming season.
    The appeal of the Lakers' potential package for Bynum has also been diminished with Los Angeles sending its 2013 and 2015 first-round draft picks to the Phoenix Suns in the Steve Nash sign-and-trade deal. The NBA doesn’t allow teams to trade first-round picks in consecutive years, so the Lakers can’t offer Orlando their 2014 and 2016 first-round picks.
    The Magic are portraying patience in making a deal for Howard, but have a strong distaste for engaging in a prolonged process that drags into the summer. From new general manager Rob Hennigan through Orlando ownership, the Magic want to find the best possible deal for Howard soon and cut ties with him, sources said.
    [Also: Kevin Love urges Timberwolves to upgrade their roster soon]
    Bynum, 24, has one year left on his Lakers contract and has a short list of potential teams with salary-cap space and supporting cast that primarily include the Dallas Mavericks and Houston Rockets with the Cleveland Cavaliers and a "couple others" on the list, league sources said. If Bynum remains with the Lakers past the Howard derby, he’ll have strong incentive to accept a maximum contract extension to stay in L.A., sources said. Otherwise, he has expressed a desire to test the free-agent market.
    As much as Hennigan prefers to send Howard to a Western Conference team, the Magic keep coming back to the Nets as the best, safest package. Howard’s preferred trade partner – Brooklyn – has pushed into overdrive in offering up trade scenarios and options for the Magic, sources said. For now, Orlando prefers Lopez as a centerpiece player over having its pick of the Houston Rockets' roster, sources said.

    The Magic would be taking a risk trading for Andrew Bynum if he won't commit to staying. (Getty Images)
    The Nets started extension discussions with Lopez over the weekend, preparing for the possibility he could stay with them on a five-year deal or be moved to the Magic in a four-year contract as part of a sign-and-trade package for Howard. Lopez has been seeking a maximum contract extension --- five years for $78.6 million --- from Brooklyn, but the two sides are still negotiating a number. If Lopez is sent to the Magic in a sign-and-trade, the most he could get is $58.4 million over four years.
    Hennigan has been consistent in pushing teams to offer him multiple first-round picks, as well as be able to absorb one of the Magic’s high-priced veteran contracts, including Hedo Turkoglu and Richardson, sources said.
    [Also: Dislike of Rajon Rondo partly why Ray Allen chose Miami]
    While the Nets are still working to use Cleveland in a potential deal, they're finding traction with two other possible scenarios to find a home for Humphries' contract, a source said.
    Orlando further signaled its desire to start a complete rebuilding process when it sent restricted free-agent forward Ryan Anderson to the New Orleans Hornets on Sunday in a sign-and-trade deal. Anderson would’ve signed an offer sheet with the Hornets for $36 million over four years, and the Magic decided that was too steep a price to match. They Magic acquired backup center Gustavo Ayon in the sign-and-trade deal. (source yahoo sports)

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    Angry Stephen A. Smith was wrong about every playoff team

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    Newsflash!

    How in hell are they going to get Deron, JJ & Dwight? All are earning near 20 million and will be over that in a season or two. AND Gerald Wallace's 4 year, 40 million contract.

    Still don't get how it is possible especially when Crash isn't included in the supposed 11 player, 3 team trade. Do they plan on having 4 players on the roster and nothing else? Or potentially filling out the roster with D league recruits?

    Some team owners and their fans (NETS) are looking into every avenue and loop hole possible to go way above the salary cap to make an explosive (Grand Opening) season in their new location stadium.

    As for Stephen A. Smith comment on the Nets being better than the Knicks .. I dont see a Nets team with Deron, JJ, Gerald, and D.Howard being a better winning team than the Knicks .. coach Mike Woodson is a better coach than the Nets coaching-staff put together.
    Plus we just added assistant coach Jason Kidd to our bench .. a respected headcoach Woodson, and a well respected same-page facilitator PG-Kidd will turn the Iso-Melo offense Knicks into a moving the ball around, moving without the ball around teammates screeens, run-run lob pass offense, and run-run back on defense Knicks team for stops.
    Dont underestimate F/C-Jorts & Jordan defensive services (watch summer league games).

    Now if owner Dolan let the luxury-tax stop the resigning of our GELLIN-TRIO of RFA (role-players) .. Lin/Fields/and Novak .. then Stephen A. Smith comment may be a fact.

    I wonder why the Toronto Raptors did not go after RFA SG-Eric Gordon
    or SG-OJ Mayo with the same offer-sheet they handed Landry Fields???

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    Gordon is looking for a max contract and would demand a lot more than what they offered Fields

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    one of the biggest Rivalry is being born

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    If amar'e plays at a 20-10 level consistently we will be on par with miami. were gonna have solid bench( one of the best actually ), as well as the best front court in the league. with a camp well emerge as strong strong title contenders. lets not forget Dwight wont be ready to go right away when the season starts. gimme the knicks any day

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    If Rose is fit the Bulls are the 1st seed no questions asked.

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    If Amare puts up 20/10 this year I'd say everybody get out of the way. Knicks Number 1 seed especially with Kidd and Camby on the bench. But if amare doesn't, I say at least a 4 seed.

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    Originally Posted by DaTPRiNCE
    If amar'e plays at a 20-10 level consistently we will be on par with miami. were gonna have solid bench( one of the best actually ), as well as the best front court in the league. with a camp well emerge as strong strong title contenders. lets not forget Dwight wont be ready to go right away when the season starts. gimme the knicks any day
    Amare better step it up....he went from MVP caliber to unbearable to watch

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    Originally Posted by 21 Shump Street
    Newsflash!

    How in hell are they going to get Deron, JJ & Dwight? All are earning near 20 million and will be over that in a season or two. AND Gerald Wallace's 4 year, 40 million contract.

    Still don't get how it is possible especially when Crash isn't included in the supposed 11 player, 3 team trade. Do they plan on having 4 players on the roster and nothing else? Or potentially filling out the roster with D league recruits?
    Someone on ESPN radio said yesterday that the Nets will be on the hook for over $100 million dollars in LUXURY TAX payments over the next 4 years. Prokhorov is gonna have his guys working overtime to compensate.


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    Originally Posted by Paul1355
    Amare better step it up....he went from MVP caliber to unbearable to watch
    d'ants system to start the season was horrible he had Melo at point forward (not his game), Chandler in the post (ehhh, ok) and STAT as a stretch 4 (definitely NOT his game). Ant was using his starts wrong to try and create spacing for them, once woody took over what happened? Melo revived himself and went back to the elite player he is. Stat suddenly started playing up to his standards averaging about 19 under woody (which is great by me). and chandler got his dunks as thats all we need em to do. he worked his stars to their strengths not make them what they arent. STAT will be better for that fact alone.

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