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    A team with some young guns and a few ol rusty ratchets will put in some work.

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    Default Call Oakley n Mason..start a reunion..

    NY is a victim of it own vision..Weakness last year was Perimeter Defense..and Offensive Identity from Point Guard..So does getting older help guard 3 pt line n close up on jumper shooters remains to be seen...giving away more picks..means you not scouting to find a gem..Getting older doesn't mean you getting better...

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    Originally Posted by RealNYK78
    NY is a victim of it own vision..Weakness last year was Perimeter Defense..and Offensive Identity from Point Guard..So does getting older help guard 3 pt line n close up on jumper shooters remains to be seen...giving away more picks..means you not scouting to find a gem..Getting older doesn't mean you getting better...
    But what it means is we have 3 huge contracts for 3 years and truth is younger guys will not make these 3 into a championship team.....the additions of 2 solid 25 minute leadership guys in Kidd and Camby will help.....
    In 3 years we we will be able to start again or resign any of our big time players....
    No matter what in 3 years we will still have Lin and Shump and all the cap room to build...worse case if shump and Lin continue to grow we have a back court for the next 8 years,

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    Originally Posted by skisloper
    But what it means is we have 3 huge contracts for 3 years and truth is younger guys will not make these 3 into a championship team.....the additions of 2 solid 25 minute leadership guys in Kidd and Camby will help.....
    In 3 years we we will be able to start again or resign any of our big time players....
    No matter what in 3 years we will still have Lin and Shump and all the cap room to build...worse case if shump and Lin continue to grow we have a back court for the next 8 years,
    yes, but anything can happen in 3 years, I'm mainly worrying about what happens now. Will Lin be healthy, will he be worse, better or the same. We just don't know. These are my concerns and they should be yours as well. The addition of Kidd and Camby is a Hugh plus and their presense should educate Lin and Shump...in the least help cover any slack.

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    I think he meant to post on the Celtics forum

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    One of the reasons we lost alot of winnable games last season was because the team couldn't close out a quarter or defend the lead. With the addition of Camby and Kidd, we have 2 guys that have a high basketball IQ. They may be up in age but they understand how to win games and hopefully that rubs off on some of our key players.

    Chandler
    Amare
    Melo
    JR (Shump)
    Lin

    Camby
    (possibly Jeffries... or any vet min/amnesty player)
    Novak
    JR
    Kidd

    This looks solid and balanced to me.

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    So what Kidd is old? He's better now than Baron Davis 10 years ago.
    And Camby is still better than many 10 years younger PF/C.
    Also both will be bench players here, so I don't understand comparison to Dwight Howard.

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    Originally Posted by nyk_nyk
    One of the reasons we lost alot of winnable games last season was because the team couldn't close out a quarter or defend the lead. With the addition of Camby and Kidd, we have 2 guys that have a high basketball IQ. They may be up in age but they understand how to win games and hopefully that rubs off on some of our key players.

    Chandler
    Amare
    Melo
    JR (Shump)
    Lin

    Camby
    (possibly Jeffries... or any vet min/amnesty player)
    Novak
    JR
    Kidd

    This looks solid and balanced to me.


    Like it or not Melo stops the movement of the Ball......yes lets hope he improves.....
    JR stops the movement of the ball....yes lets hope he improves....

    Melo and JR together will not improve enough that the ball does not get stopped when they are both on the court....JR is not a starting SG....

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    Originally Posted by skisloper
    Like it or not Melo stops the movement of the Ball......yes lets hope he improves.....
    JR stops the movement of the ball....yes lets hope he improves....

    Melo and JR together will not improve enough that the ball does not get stopped when they are both on the court....JR is not a starting SG....
    JR does not stop ball movement like that. His main issue is that he takes some questionable shots. Remember who sent a lot of passes to Novak in the corner for 3.

    As for Melo, he's already addressed the improtance of Kidd and allowing him to run the offense. He has said he's trying to get adjusted to playing off the ball.

    Full training camp and some stability = A BETTER YEAR

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    Originally Posted by nyk_nyk
    JR does not stop ball movement like that. His main issue is that he takes some questionable shots. Remember who sent a lot of passes to Novak in the corner for 3.

    As for Melo, he's already addressed the improtance of Kidd and allowing him to run the offense. He has said he's trying to get adjusted to playing off the ball.

    Full training camp and some stability = A BETTER YEAR
    JR dribbles for half the shot clock

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    1) The Knicks arent an old team.

    2) If Nets get Dwight, they are still nowhere near us. 3 Players arent going to do much. They have no depth and who knows if daren and joe can even work together.

    3) Bottom Line: Nets will have potential, but thats about it.

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    Originally Posted by BIG APPLE SPORTS
    Its a known fact that you need verteran leadership on your team in order to win championships. 2008 Celtics, 2011 Mavs, 2004 Pistons, 2006 Heat, every Spurs championship team, Shaq-Era Lakers...Or just have the best player in the sport mixed with other great players.

    Since we don't have the best players in the sport on one team i'd rather take the safe road of having battle tested vets...

    If you don't understand the importance of having vets that can still contribute at a fairly higher level then their avg position player then you don't know basketball or what it takes to win. This thread is a piece of ****, And it seems you don't know what it takes to win besides "Get Chris Paul and we win!". If Camby was playing 30 mpg he would be averaging about 10 points 12 rebounds and 2.0 blocks. That's better then what Roy Hibbert produced in his 30 mpg and he was an All-Star center...

    Shut up and research before blasting one of the most important aspects of a championship team.

    +1 Repped i couldn't of said it better than myself

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    I'm thinking about it now, and the problem is that Knicks are bringing in old players, it's the move were they bring in big Names and we're supposed to be happy, but really we have not moved much because Kidd and Camby are cooked turkeys. They will have a strong positive effect but this is not as much as you expect. Maybe in the beginning they will win some nice games, but by year Three it's different. Then they are useless.

    So it won't win us anything big, we'll just squeeze a few regular season wins.

    You know, this isn't soccer or baseball, it's tougher to buy a team. Guy's trying to buy a brand-name team but they don't fit.

    Prediction: 46 wins

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    Originally Posted by madsqgardensnyk
    1) The Knicks arent an old team.

    2) If Nets get Dwight, they are still nowhere near us. 3 Players arent going to do much. They have no depth and who knows if daren and joe can even work together.

    3) Bottom Line: Nets will have potential, but thats about it.
    Are u on crack.......our Knicks team is the same as last year without Davis/Fields/Jeffries an we replace them with Camby/Kidd...I agree an upgrade...

    NETS are no where near us if they get howard ...I hope u are being sarcastic...

    Williams
    Johnson
    Wallace
    ???
    Howard

    Thats as good as any line up in the NBA and all the pieces fit......

    Knicks/Nets
    PG NETS
    SG NETS
    SF KNICKS
    PG EVEN ( GOD KNOWS WITH AMARE )
    C NETS

    BENCH KNICKS.....

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    Originally Posted by skisloper
    Are u on crack.......our Knicks team is the same as last year without Davis/Fields/Jeffries an we replace them with Camby/Kidd...I agree an upgrade...

    NETS are no where near us if they get howard ...I hope u are being sarcastic...

    Williams
    Johnson
    Wallace
    ???
    Howard

    Thats as good as any line up in the NBA and all the pieces fit......

    Knicks/Nets
    PG NETS
    SG NETS
    SF KNICKS
    PG EVEN ( GOD KNOWS WITH AMARE )
    C NETS

    BENCH KNICKS.....
    Nets would be top 2 in the league if they get Howard. The drawback about JJ is his selfishness, but with DWill and Howard, that will disappear. But Dwill is a mesh player, he will get these guys working on the same page....now they're downfall is if Avery decides to be General Johnson again. Guessing Teletovic starts at the 4 for them as a stretch 4. JJ has a size advantage at the 2 and can get on the block, opening up the perimeter for DWill to slash or Teletovic to shoot.

    Kidd takes the pressure off Lin as the floor general. It can only be good, Kidd will get Melo in scoring position, very similar to how he worked with Dirk, when all the defensive attention is on the 2 man game, Kidd can easily go over the top for a Tyson dunk. Camby provides a 20-24 minute guy who can come in and give the 4 and 5 spots productive minutes off the bench.

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