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    Originally Posted by CoolClyde
    finestrong dude! i agree with p0nderiffic, excellent posting and toasting.
    i agree wholeheartedly, Knicks need to f*cking make something happen with that starting 2 spot, open for the taking in the world's greatest arena!

    but, NOOOOOOOOOOO, Knicks are gonna lay back and wait for the money to dry up around the league and see who's left. what f*cking losers the entire front office are, from the top on down. jeez!

    I think Brandon Rush will be matched by GS no matter what, so forget him.
    I like Weems, and i'm def a fan of Chris-Doug Rob and Meeks (shall inherit the earth) but I think Randolph Foye should just come in here and take over the spot.

    be aggressive!! Glenwald!! do your job!! arghhhhhhhhhh!
    ****in' A, Clyde...I don't get what's going on right now. If I had to guess -- they prob. have their eyes on a couple of different guys and are waiting to see if they get any offers, feeling if they don't, they'll have a better shot to sign one of them. I just don't agree with that at all. It's too risky...Guys could go off the board just like that...Poof -- you blink your eyes and they signed a vet. min. deal with someone else...You wait on a guy you like, you risk losing him..Simple as that...Look at Jeremy Lin for Christ's sake...You can make a legit case that if we came with a strong enough initial offer, he would've been a Knick...Look at Marco Belinelli -- dude was available for awhile, now we're hearing he's in advanced talks with the Bulls. Courtney Lee just got scooped up by Boston (granted that was through a trade but still)...You get the idea -- if you got your eyes on a guy -- say Jodie Meeks -- why not step up and offer the guy a contract? What the hell have they got to lose? You get rebuffed, no problem. On to the next best option on your list, right on down the line. It's an easy phone call to make, really. These guys know exactly what we have to offer -- the vet minimum...They also all know that along with that, we could possibly offer up the starting 2G spot for a NY Knick team that's built to compete for it all. Some guys might pick that over more money to go play for another less competitve team. Seen it before -- look at JR Smith (although I remain skeptical if JR actually did receive better offers than the Knicks' offer).

    What if tomorrow we hear that some team out there scooped up Sonny Weems over night? If we really do like him, I'd be pissed to hear that...It could happen man. What if talks with Belinelli break down with the Bulls and Weems was their safety choice? Who loses on that -- the Knicks!

    Anyway, just looking at clips trying to refamiliarize myself with Weems -- I dunno man, is it me or does this guy have some Andre Iguodala to him? Build/body type and game-wise...That's who he most closely resembles to me -- a poor man's Iggy. That wouldn't be bad, man. I believe Weems' agent -- this would be a steal for the Knicks. The above article also mentioned the Knicks possibly having interest in Mo Evans as well. Of the two, I'm much more interested in Weems. Younger, more athletic, more upside...I think he'd be good here.


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    excellent vids of Weems! the kid skies effortlessly and I def see shades of Iggy! if memory serves me correct, he had a nice game with Craptors vs knicks, where he shot the ball pretty well and was the nail in the coffin to defeat the O&B.

    according to his bastard agent, his shooting game has improved overseas, so the kid's gotta be a valuable asset. the Knicks would be major mobbly deep with an athletic 2 like Weems added to the fold. i approve.

    i think (no Ho)Mo Evans or RonBrewskie are high on the Knicks interest list at this point, both of these guys would improve Knicks defensively, but i'm not sure they'd be starting 2. maybe Brewer.

    i'm so sick of this wait and see 'tude. look how well it worked with Lin.

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    Originally Posted by CoolClyde
    excellent vids of Weems! the kid skies effortlessly and I def see shades of Iggy! if memory serves me correct, he had a nice game with Craptors vs knicks, where he shot the ball pretty well and was the nail in the coffin to defeat the O&B.

    according to his bastard agent, his shooting game has improved overseas, so the kid's gotta be a valuable asset. the Knicks would be major mobbly deep with an athletic 2 like Weems added to the fold. i approve.

    i think (no Ho)Mo Evans or RonBrewskie are high on the Knicks interest list at this point, both of these guys would improve Knicks defensively, but i'm not sure they'd be starting 2. maybe Brewer.

    i'm so sick of this wait and see 'tude. look how well it worked with Lin.
    Foye is my no. 1 choice for this spot but I won't be upset at all if we land Brewer. He is great defensively and lengthy enough at 6'7 to guard alot of the better SG/SF's around the league. People bring up his poor outside shooting but most of the minutes at the 2 guard spot will go to JR Smith anyway. He plugs a hole for us and ensures our defensive intensity is right there from the start with Tyson. Also gives us a legitimate defensive back up to Melo if Novak plays PF.

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    That video of highlights made weems mid range pull up jumper look smooth as hell. That shot is a dying art right now in the NBA.

    If the Knicks want him they should have a good chance to get him, while his agent may be shopping him they're are still some more well known SG players available to be targeted by teams with cash. So in the way the Knicks might think he is the best 2 to slip between he cracks.

    Also physically he resembles Iggy but I got to see more highlights before I can say his game resembles Iggy.

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    I really hope we sign Ronnie Brewer. I think he would take us over the top. Dude is a lockdown defender and can guard both SG's and SF's. Playing out of position and guarding small forwards last season, Brewer was even better, holding them to just an 11.5 PER. We need a player like him to guard Kobe, Wade, Lebron etc, especially with Shumpert out.

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    Originally Posted by CoolClyde
    excellent vids of Weems! the kid skies effortlessly and I def see shades of Iggy! if memory serves me correct, he had a nice game with Craptors vs knicks, where he shot the ball pretty well and was the nail in the coffin to defeat the O&B.

    according to his bastard agent, his shooting game has improved overseas, so the kid's gotta be a valuable asset. the Knicks would be major mobbly deep with an athletic 2 like Weems added to the fold. i approve.

    i think (no Ho)Mo Evans or RonBrewskie are high on the Knicks interest list at this point, both of these guys would improve Knicks defensively, but i'm not sure they'd be starting 2. maybe Brewer.

    i'm so sick of this wait and see 'tude. look how well it worked with Lin.

    I gotta think this is a matter the knicks having a list of players, whom they have actually expressed intrest in and extended an offer to, that may all be in negotiations with another team of their first preference.
    • Money
    • Home town
    • Weather
    • winning
    all factor in.

    BUT>>

    Those teams are prolly in negotiations with other players on higher on their lists.
    So it's a matter of a waiting game with a player who's in a waiting game with different team who's waiting on word from......etc..on and on....

    You gotta get in line. The knicks are dangling the MINIMUM. How aggressive can you be.
    That fact really ties their hands and they gotta play the back. I DOUBT their just chillin doin nada.

    Let's say their top choice man is Foye or Delfino guys who def. deserve more than the minimum.
    The ONLY thing I could see the knicks do is put together one of those over the top recruiting presentations.
    Wining and dining, Celebs, appeal to their kids, Fireworks and them slide them that puny ass contract.
    They may find it so funny they'll say F it. Let's do this
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    Some serious efforts towards Randy Foye are coming.
    Read with caution, could be nothing.

    @incarceratedbob: @randyfoye Welcome to the Knicks buddy..

    Tommy Dee ‏@TommyDeeTKB
    Wait what? RT @incarceratedbob: @randyfoye Welcome to the Knicks buddy..

    Tommy Dee ‏@TommyDeeTKB
    If the Knicks can add foye they've upgraded major weaknesses. They'll be older but as @alanhahn said weeks back, they are going for it.

    Tommy Dee ‏@TommyDeeTKB
    assuming Foye, top of head start Felton and Foye with Melo Amar'e and Chander. Smith, Camby, Kidd novak...Shump in Jan #knicks

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    i'm only working under assumptions but it's an educated one. CAA. Newark. Spot shooter. TKB favorite since 2003. @randyfoye

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    After I heard who Weems and Evans agent is I doubt the knicks deal with either player. For all we know their agent might be mocking the knicks....

    If Incarcerated Bob is saying Foye is coming idk if its true or not but he has some sources.

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    Originally Posted by NY17KNICKS
    Some serious efforts towards Randy Foye are coming.
    Read with caution, could be nothing.

    @incarceratedbob: @randyfoye Welcome to the Knicks buddy..

    Tommy Dee ‏@TommyDeeTKB
    Wait what? RT @incarceratedbob: @randyfoye Welcome to the Knicks buddy..

    Tommy Dee ‏@TommyDeeTKB
    If the Knicks can add foye they've upgraded major weaknesses. They'll be older but as @alanhahn said weeks back, they are going for it.

    Tommy Dee ‏@TommyDeeTKB
    assuming Foye, top of head start Felton and Foye with Melo Amar'e and Chander. Smith, Camby, Kidd novak...Shump in Jan #knicks

    Tommy Dee ‏@TommyDeeTKB
    i'm only working under assumptions but it's an educated one. CAA. Newark. Spot shooter. TKB favorite since 2003. @randyfoye


    It'll be a huge MIRACLE if we land Foye in free agency. He's set to make more money elsewhere. With that said, I'll be a happy camper if he does decide to represent the O&B.

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    Originally Posted by NY17KNICKS
    Some serious efforts towards Randy Foye are coming.
    Read with caution, could be nothing.

    @incarceratedbob: @randyfoye Welcome to the Knicks buddy..

    Tommy Dee ‏@TommyDeeTKB
    Wait what? RT @incarceratedbob: @randyfoye Welcome to the Knicks buddy..

    Tommy Dee ‏@TommyDeeTKB
    If the Knicks can add foye they've upgraded major weaknesses. They'll be older but as @alanhahn said weeks back, they are going for it.

    Tommy Dee ‏@TommyDeeTKB
    assuming Foye, top of head start Felton and Foye with Melo Amar'e and Chander. Smith, Camby, Kidd novak...Shump in Jan #knicks

    Tommy Dee ‏@TommyDeeTKB
    i'm only working under assumptions but it's an educated one. CAA. Newark. Spot shooter. TKB favorite since 2003. @randyfoye
    Man I hope this is true! Randy Foye would bring defense and instant offense to this team. I sort of counted Foye out because I thought the only way we would be able to get him would be using Gadzuric's contract (which we already used in the Felton deal). Anyone know how this would work?

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    Originally Posted by AmareForPresident
    Man I hope this is true! Randy Foye would bring defense and instant offense to this team. I sort of counted Foye out because I thought the only way we would be able to get him would be using Gadzuric's contract (which we already used in the Felton deal). Anyone know how this would work?
    We can't do a sign and trade anymore after the Felton deal, and we can now only use the veteran's minimum to sign any player. Right now we have two spots left on the roster.

    1. Melo
    2. STAT
    3. TC
    4. Kidd
    5. Shump
    6. JR
    7. Novak
    8. Felton
    9. Cambyman
    10. KT
    11. Copeland
    12. White
    13. Prigioni
    14.
    15.

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    Alright I dont know whats going on but a bunch of nobodys on twitter are reporting Knicks are moments from signing Randy Foye.
    Now I wouldnt even entertain their tweets but they all happened within a 5 minute span. The Tweets have now stopped with no major news outlet saying anything. But..you never know lol

    Also iBob reported the Knicks will sign Foye earlier today but it appears to have no connection to this new batch of news

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    And apparently the Knicks are, I dont wanna say deciding on, but they are going after Carlos Delfino who alot of people feel would be perfect for us because of his pitbull style defense and 3 point skills.
    And Foye obviously being the other.

    Also the Ronnie Brewer talks have really died down.


    Thats about it for SG updates lol

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    Originally Posted by NY17KNICKS
    And apparently the Knicks are, I dont wanna say deciding on, but they are going after Carlos Delfino who alot of people feel would be perfect for us because of his pitbull style defense and 3 point skills.
    And Foye obviously being the other.

    Also the Ronnie Brewer talks have really died down.


    Thats about it for SG updates lol
    I wouldn't mind getting Delfino. He's a good defender and can hit the 3 well, and he can play minutes at both SG or SF.

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