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    Nyk Logo Houston is run by morons.

    Originally Posted by Forrest17
    The rockets are an absolute mess.
    They certainly are.

    Colan will match. Fields is now a potential bad signing long forgotten. Can't say I'm too upset, and the + $6M that came from matching him would've had the same effect and bumped Dolan's new CBA cap penalty payment to $45M anyway.

    Glenny G should've gotten in earlier really, but this is no skin off the nose of our FO, and certainly not a huge impact on Dolan's man-purse in the NY market. Especially considering we'll be winning more games this year.

    Luis Scola being amnestied is absolutely ****ing ludicrous. He is a rare breed of old school/Euro savvy PF, and he is a hard nut on top of that. Surely there were bidders for his services. Desperate GMs do desperate things, and this reeks of pressure from the owners, as a poorly thought out plan and idiotic moves culminate in this offseason's worst decision.

    Dwight Howard may have intervened ~ just a guess. I know he's a God botherer just like Lin. Maybe they've been in cahoots? Seems unlikely.

    Regardless of the bump in the offer sheet, the Knicks will match. The Rockets are a festering mess, who, after sucking the life out of us in the T Mac trade, have done nothing but bugger their franchise in the pooper. Dragic, Lowry, and now a Dwight Howard campaign with Bynum as a plan B?

    James Dolan is going to take the utmost pleasure in crushing their Linsane offer, and the Rockets will rue the day they decided to amnesty Scola and lose 2 top notch point guards for d!ck.

    Fvck Houston! I can't wait to tear them apart on their floor next year. It will be a game and a year for the Rockets to forget.

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    Originally Posted by Crazy⑧s
    They certainly are.

    Colan will match. Fields is now a potential bad signing long forgotten. Can't say I'm too upset, and the + $6M that came from matching him would've had the same effect and bumped Dolan's new CBA cap penalty payment to $45M anyway.

    Glenny G should've gotten in earlier really, but this is no skin off the nose of our FO, and certainly not a huge impact on Dolan's man-purse in the NY market. Especially considering we'll be winning more games this year.

    Luis Scola being amnestied is absolutely ****ing ludicrous. He is a rare breed of old school/Euro savvy PF, and he is a hard nut on top of that. Surely there were bidders for his services. Desperate GMs do desperate things, and this reeks of pressure from the owners, as a poorly thought out plan and idiotic moves culminate in this offseason's worst decision.



    Dwight Howard may have intervened ~ just a guess. I know he's a God botherer just like Lin. Maybe they've been in cahoots? Seems unlikely.

    Regardless of the bump in the offer sheet, the Knicks will match. The Rockets are a festering mess, who, after sucking the life out of us in the T Mac trade, have done nothing but bugger their franchise in the pooper. Dragic, Lowry, and now a Dwight Howard campaign with Bynum as a plan B?

    James Dolan is going to take the utmost pleasure in crushing their Linsane offer, and the Rockets will rue the day they decided to amnesty Scola and lose 2 top notch point guards for d!ck.

    Fvck Houston! I can't wait to tear them apart on their floor next year. It will be a game and a year for the Rockets to forget.
    You have restored my faith... in the funky chinamans signing.

    This is sort of nervewracking...

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    why didnt we just offer a contract first

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    I knew I smelled a rat!!!


    Houston changed their original offer to Lin in the past week because they knew The Knicks would have easily matched their other proposal.


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    This is indeed why they used the amnesty on Scola to free up the room for such a deal!

    Berman says Lin flew out to Vegas without letting The Knicks know to change the proposed deal (Berman said it so take w grain of salt).

    Bad PR move for Lin and bad move for his realationship w Knicks front office....if was gonna renegotiate w Houston he could've talked w Knicks who could have beat Houston's offer with a 4 year deal.


    Does Lin not want The KNICKS to Match!?

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    Lin is trying to do right by Lin, and i see nothing wrong with that, get all you can, while you can.God knows he's not worth it anyways, so get it before the gig is up.

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    Originally Posted by bluechox2
    why didnt we just offer a contract first
    because as Tommybeer said on twitter, we have his bird rights but we couldn't offer as much money as Lin wanted unless we matched an offer by a previous team.

    Also, if we gave an offer and some team came in and gave him a better offer then Lin would feel like the Knicks under-valued him.

    Lin met with Woodson and Grunwald a month before teams were allowed to meet with players and odds are they went over what they would do. I believe Lin knew that the KNicks would let him look at offers and then simply match it so he was content knowing that they valued him at the same price as any other team.

    it is a smart move but yet one that is biting them now that Houston gave the poison pill contract, yet we have to match.

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    Originally Posted by Kidd Karma
    Rockets added a big poison pill in the 3rd year, 5, 5.2 and then 14.9, when the Knicks are projected to be at 90 million, coinciding with CBA rules of a stiffer luxury tax. Is that supposed to scare off the Knicks?

    If both Lin & Fields have two consecutive dynamic seasons with Tyson/Camby/Stat/Melo/Kidd .. NBA teams will be looking to break the Knicks teams up before the third season, by having several teams under the cap willing to trade for Knicks expensive winning players.

    If GM Grunwald is blinded of what a huge impact coach Mike Woodson will get from having a Knicks rotation of "Kidd/Lin/Fields/Novak/Melo/Stat/Camby/Tyson" in just one season .. phone ringing off the hook on trade deadline date, and 2013 offseason for trades .. then maybe Knicks GM is the wrong job for Grunwald.

    u got to give a little to get a lot

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    Originally Posted by Paul1355
    because as Tommybeer said on twitter, we have his bird rights but we couldn't offer as much money as Lin wanted unless we matched an offer by a previous team.

    Also, if we gave an offer and some team came in and gave him a better offer then Lin would feel like the Knicks under-valued him.

    Lin met with Woodson and Grunwald a month before teams were allowed to meet with players and odds are they went over what they would do. I believe Lin knew that the KNicks would let him look at offers and then simply match it so he was content knowing that they valued him at the same price as any other team.

    it is a smart move but yet one that is biting them now that Houston gave the poison pill contract, yet we have to match.

    Knicks gave the Rockets our 2012 first round pick to take Jefferies $6.6M final year contract off our back for the 2010 offseason .. the Knicks had to pay half of T-Mac final year $19M contract for that move.

    Marcus Camby was an unrestricted FA on July 1st.
    The Knicks got robbed for more than the new luxury tax by making Camby a Knicks without using our MLE .. of Budinger for JR.Smith was included in that sign n trade then it wouldve been equal.

    Thats two consecutive ROBBERIES committed on the Knicks by the Houston Rockets. Now the Rockets are holding us hostage at what we will scale out for our restricted FA PG-Lin.

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    Originally Posted by Kiyaman
    Knicks gave the Rockets our 2012 first round pick to take Jefferies $6.6M final year contract off our back for the 2010 offseason .. the Knicks had to pay half of T-Mac final year $19M contract for that move.

    Marcus Camby was an unrestricted FA on July 1st.
    The Knicks got robbed for more than the new luxury tax by making Camby a Knicks without using our MLE .. of Budinger for JR.Smith was included in that sign n trade then it wouldve been equal.

    Thats two consecutive ROBBERIES committed on the Knicks by the Houston Rockets. Now the Rockets are holding us hostage at what we will scale out for our restricted FA PG-Lin.
    yea but we have improved even though we lost assets

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    According to Marc Berman, no courier or messenger contacted Grunwald and presented to him the updated offer sheet in las vegas today, therefore prolonging this even more..

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    It would be a nuclear disaster if we have a flash in the pan bench warming PG making 14.9 million. Lin is really making me smfh, if we were the T-Wolves he would be lucky if he made $5 million in his third year. He better pay off because we all know what happened to the last "promising" Asian PG...



    Lin could pave the way for future asian players in this league but he is acting like a self centered dick during this free agency and he needs to come back to earth, we really haven't seen how he would play with a full healthy lineup and we have seen that against elite defensive PG's he is completely obsolete.

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    Originally Posted by Forrest17
    The rockets are an absolute mess.
    Originally Posted by elcol
    According to Marc Berman, no courier or messenger contacted Grunwald and presented to him the updated offer sheet in las vegas today, therefore prolonging this even more..
    Rockets so far unable to hand deliver Lin offer sheet. Knicks refused to accept at team hotel. Glen Grunwald not at practice yest, gm today.
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    Jonathan Feigen@Jonathan_Feigen
    Rockets had a courier knocking on doors at hotel, call room. Could not get someone to accept offer sheet yesterday.
    15 Jul 12 ReplyRetweetFavorite


    Jonathan Feigen@Jonathan_Feigen
    Rockets FedExed offer sheet to Knicks offices in NY, but league said GM Glen Grunwald must receive it himself. Clock to match at standstill.


    Letting the Rockets sweat it out before matching.....?

    Seriously contemplating other options?

    Looking to S&T Lin?

    On and on and on it goes.

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    grunwald is doing this on purpose because he knows that houston wants dwight or bynum and other free agents that are on the knicks radar so he is just d*cking around with them to delay houston time table

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    I'm loving this attitude, specially since they improved their offer. F em!

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    Default PR Mine Field?

    I have a personal theory.........

    I don't know whether Lin does or does not want to stay on the Knicks..... Fans can drive themselves crazy over the speculation. But I do think there might be an attempt to play the New York media in order to discourage the Knicks from matching the offer....... And I think whatever stall tactics are taking place is to create some sort of conjured up backlash toward Lin, whether it was warranted or not.

    Furthermore, Lin might be seeing what's going on in the media, and he might have balked at signing the offer sheet. He could be caught in the middle of potential chicanery in the media to sour perception. If Lin ends up signing an offer sheet considerably smaller than first reported, this could be why.

    I thought that Lin handled the initial "Mad at the Knicks" story like a slick politician, but I get this sinking feeling he could be walking into a PR mine field.

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