i knew the front office was inept, but this is a new low. can't believe we're losing lin and getting geriatric j-kidd and fatso felton.
No way Knicks are gonna go with Felton and Kidd as the point guards. For a simple reason - the knick fans and media would crucify Dolan/Grunfeld for choosing felton over Lin.
The Felton signing clearly was a response to the loss of Landry Fields and the fact that, as of this moment, the Knicks have ZERO healthy shooting guards. The Felton signing allows Lin to play PG and Kidd play SG, with Felton backing up both until Shumpert comes back.
And Dolan/Grunwald will be crucified...too many NY fans love this kid.
Kidd can be a solid 2 guard and start which is what he wants to do and you make J.R the dynamic bench player. Felton is a solid backup as any and would just be happy to a Knick again.
This is like pitching and baseball, you can never have too much pitching...and we can not have too many ball handlers. we need ball handlers and now if we resign Lin we have 4 of them.
"The Knicks are back" - Amare
Not sure how this affects the Knicks matching Lin's offer sheet (I don't think it looks good fellas -- hope I'm wrong -- everything surrounding this Lin offer sheet has annoyed me to no end, but I still want him back) but this deal on it's own looks good.
If the deal's Gadzuric, Jeffries and a 2016 2nd rounder for Ray Felton, Kurt Thomas (even if we waive him, no biggie) and 2 players Portland drafted recently (pretty sure Jon Diebler, maybe even Will Barton ), that's a straight up coup. Can't wait to see all the particulars on this.
TRAILBLAZERS FANS MAKING FUN OF US. WHAT ARE NYK THINKING THO, FOR REAL.
What I said:
Could have gave that money to Ronnie Brewer. Jeffries > Kurt Thomas. Jeffries did so much hustle **** for us last year. Why are we signing all these ancient players? And did the Knicks not watch a single game Felton was in last year? If we do resign Lin we have 4 PGs. I don't ****ing get it
God I love the knicks
We got a vet minimum jeffries, some faggot center we are just going to waive, and a second round pick.
For kurt thomas who, while he is a cool person, is not a good basketball player anymore (Though damn he still sinks that elbow jumper well)
And faggot raymond fatton who not only would have walked ANYWAY if we didnt SnT, but we ****ing hate.
We get cap space, a good minimum player, and lose literally nothing worth mentioning
The knicks lmao
**** THIS TEAM MAN.
Hey they can laugh all they want right now you could make an argument they have the most dysfunctional team in the league. Felton came in fat but they trades Andre Miller for him.
I am bewildered. Putting aside Lin for a moment, was any other team willing to sign Felton? Why would we pay him so much?
As far as Lin is concerned, I am with CoolClyde. Dolan could be ticked off. Perhaps he is just messing with Lin. I cannot believe that Lin really wants to go to Houston
U have no other true guards on the team......Do not include Shump as he is missing the first 1/3 rd of the season.......If Kidd gets hurt we are dead...so Lin is a must....
Plus a great trading trip to any team looking to fill an arena if Lin plays half as well as he did in those 7 games....
Dolan cannot be this stupid not to sign him..........
I can see the strategy of collecting assets. This is the next best thing when managing a capped out team with no draft picks, stock assets.
Glenny G is stacking assets. He's covering his bases so as to prevent what happened last year with the injuries.
Lin vs Felton
Assists: Felton is a pass first guard
Shooting: Felton had a down year but can hit the open three
Speed: Lin was athletic and had a good first step, but a knee injury means a question mark.
Felton gained weight, but he probably was depressed because he had high hopes before being traded from the Knicks. I can understand this given his situation and what we were trying to accomplish at the time.
Bottom line: A motivated Felton may be better than a post-injury Lin. Felton can be more stable (athough his recent turn-over numbers and conditioning were compromised)
while Lin may be a distraction.
SIgning both is likely. That way Glenny G has contracts of varying amounts to match if needed by the TDL.
We have depth to avoid an injury excuse going forward.
We have vets that need little instruction.
And IF it is true that Lin "secretly" went back and had the Rockets change the deal thinking the Knicks would match
we could make them swallow the poison pill; leave them with nothing; put assets together to trade for either Picks or Specific help depending on our progress by mid-season (including the return of Shump).
This really isn't bad at all. Lin's contract only affects our Lux Tax implications.
**We can't say Lin is better after 30 or so games in... especially being influenced by our former coaches dumb system.
After thinking about it...
I think its best to have this roster run by vets in the back-court.
Its better then having a PG still learning, especially with SHump being young also.
Im not just saying that, I realized there was big "hope" and questions (if Lin can...) tied into Lin being the starter. Like when we had Billups for that short time or Anthony Carter. Cant say enough about vet guards look at what Fisher did in OKC.
Vets Like Kidd, Felt, Camby, KT, and our B'Way Bigs = Less Mistakes, better execution down the stretch.
Kidd was right... the final 6mins wins/loses games. Now we basically have no quetions. Even JR is a vet.
Some of you guys are crazy, i'd rather have Felton than Lin at that price.You guys act like Lin is that dude, i'm not paying a project max money.
Now seriously, think about it people, Lin will be back, we are going all in, this is a power move. Screw Houston, wanna mess with us, we get both, done...
Can you people imagine the hype and the team we will have if lin gets resigned and we go into the season with the new additions??? This is serious and everyone will know it, knicks are here to win.
Oh and another point that just popped into my head, with the Nets coming to Brooklyn, there is more pressure on the Knicks to do better not to lose fans, or atleast I would assume. I think Dolan will suck it up and surprise everyone by paying the tax and resigning Lin.
Now I am the one that wouldn't be happy with nothing less than a championship. Has to happen one of these 3 years...