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    Originally Posted by LINvincible
    I hate Melo.

    The dude is a drama-queen and can't win playoff games. PERIOD.
    I beg to differ.

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    Nuggets coast past Mavs to capture series 4-1

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    DENVER -- [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] is taking his hometown team to new heights with a big assist from [Only registered and activated users can see links. ].


    Behind 30 points from Anthony and 28 from Billups, the [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] beat the [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] 124-110 on Wednesday night to wrap up their semifinal series in five feisty games.







    So, the Nuggets are leaving all the animosity with the Mavericks' players, fans and owner behind and heading to their first Western Conference finals since 1985.


    The Nuggets, who are 8-2 in the playoffs after tying their franchise record with a 54-win regular season, will face either Los Angeles or Houston for the conference championship.


    "It's special. We worked hard in the offseason and training camp and throughout," Anthony said. "We stuck to everything, we overcame adversity, we stayed humble and our hard work paid off."


    Winners of 16 straight games at the Pepsi Center, where no opponent has won since March 9, the Nuggets would start their next series on the road if the Lakers win, and at home if Houston does. The Lakers lead the series 3-2 with Game 6 Thursday night in Houston.


    Mavericks coach Rick Carlisle said the combination of Billups, a proven winner, and Anthony, "who's just taking quantum leaps as a great player and leader," makes the Nuggets a true title contender.
    "These guys are legitimate, a legitimate championship-caliber team," Carlisle said. "They've got a great shot. They've got a real opportunity."

    The Nuggets didn't dare dream of this type of success when the season began following the departures of defensive stalwarts [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] and [Only registered and activated users can see links. ].


    "Sometimes when you're forced to come together and fight together and persevere, your best qualities come forward," Denver coach George Karl said.


    The impetus for the transformation came when the team made its biggest trade ever, [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] to Detroit for Billups, who turned his hometown team from an afterthought into a championship contender after leading the Pistons to six straight Eastern Conference finals and the NBA championship in 2004.


    "We love Allen, Allen's family," Nuggets owner Stan Kroenke said. "But as Allen has said many times it's still a business. Chauncey was right for us, with the different personalities we have on the club Chauncey was a really important part."


    "He's a leader," Anthony said of Billups. "He came on this team and he brought a businesslike attitude to our team. He brought a defensive mindset we were looking for."


    Fired up from the ugliness on and off the court in Dallas in Games 3 and 4, the Nuggets came out in front of their home crowd with a passion and shot 64 percent in the first half while building a 69-55 lead.


    The Mavericks wouldn't go down easily, though, making five straight 3-pointers, three by [Only registered and activated users can see links. ], to pull within 79-72.


    The Mavericks were within 103-97 with 7 minutes left but Anthony took the inbounds pass and with 2 seconds on the shot clock, hit a turnaround 25-foot jumper at the buzzer. [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] was assessed a technical and Billups' free throw made it a 10-point game with 6:35 left.


    "That Melo 3 was a killer," Dallas star [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] said. "We get the technical on top. Back to 10 points."


    "I don't know how he hit that shot," Billups said.


    Anthony said it was pure luck. "Yeah, that was a spark," Anthony said. "If I told you I knew it was going in, I'd be lying to you. That was a lucky shot. It went in. I think that shot right there sparked the momentum for us."
    Carlisle called Melo's shot a microcosm of the series, where Denver had an answer to almost everything the Mavericks threw out.


    "In the final analysis, Denver's a better team," Carlisle said. "And they showed it throughout the series."


    Nowitzki had his usual monster game, scoring 32 points -- he averaged 34.4 in the series -- and Kidd added 19.


    [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] scored 18 points for Denver, which is starting to get recognized as this year's feel-good story.


    "It's not over, we're still on the road man," Billups said. "We are moving on to bigger and better things and hopefully we can remain successful."
    Karl said it's not too early for the Nuggets to believe they can be champions.


    "I think our team is a good basketball team, a very good basketball team. And I have a feeling that we're not going to be messed up by the next round. We're going to make a team beat us," Karl said. "We can live with that. But we're not going to give it to anybody. We're going to go after it."


    Karl said that for all Anthony's accolades, including an NCAA championship at Syracuse as a freshman in 2003 and a gold medal at the Beijing Games last summer, Wednesday was a red-letter day in Anthony's career because he was named to the All-NBA team and won another playoff series. "These two awards tonight solidify how good he is," Karl said. "You can start to put Melo in that group of winners and not just great players," Billups suggested.

    Before the game, the NBA said it wouldn't punish anybody over the ugly incidents that occurred on and off the court in the games in Dallas, which included Mavs owner Mark Cuban throwing a fit after a non-call helped Denver win Game 3, when he also yelled at [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]'s mother.
    Cuban, who skipped Game 5 to attend an awards ceremony in Las Vegas, had written in his blog this week that the Nuggets' families and friends could sit in his private suite "when the series returns to Dallas." The Nuggets won't be going back to Texas. They have bigger plans, thanks to Anthony and Billups.

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    In regards to the Kobe-Melo discussion. Melo has always looked up to Kobe & considered him his big brother. A few similarities shown in the way they play on offense:

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    Kobe vs Melo playoffs 2009 game 2 (anyone who still moans & groans that they'd rather have Danilo Gallinari than Melo are smoking the bath salts):

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    Originally Posted by STAT1
    In regards to the Kobe-Melo discussion. Melo has always looked up to Kobe & considered him his big brother. A few similarities shown in the way they play on offense:

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    Kobe vs Melo playoffs 2009 game 2 (anyone who still moans & groans that they'd rather have Danilo Gallinari than Melo are smoking the bath salts):

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    yo if we get 2008-2010 STAT and Melo its a ****in rap

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    Anyone who thinks we're a lottery team without lin. Wow.

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    Originally Posted by CA7
    yo if we get 2008-2010 STAT and Melo its a ****in rap
    That's the biggest thing I'm hoping for this year. Maybe for once a move the Knicks make turns out to be great for us. Maybe letting Lin go & bringing Felton back will pay dividends? That's what I'm hoping for the most. HOPING, which is a big hope at that. I'll be happy if we can get STAT playing to 80% of what he was when he first got here. Last year he was a complete disappointment for me.

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    Originally Posted by STAT1
    That's the biggest thing I'm hoping for this year. Maybe for once a move the Knicks make turns out to be great for us. Maybe letting Lin go & bringing Felton back will pay dividends? That's what I'm hoping for the most. HOPING, which is a big hope at that. I'll be happy if we can get STAT playing to 80% of what he was when he first got here. Last year he was a complete disappointment for me.
    I think both can be 25 and 10 guys with the right system, I pray Woodson is working on some sets to run to maximize our Stars like how Miami and OKC play through their stars and the role players just find their spots

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    Originally Posted by CA7
    I think both can be 25 and 10 guys with the right system, I pray Woodson is working on some sets to run to maximize our Stars like how Miami and OKC play through their stars and the role players just find their spots
    25 pts I can see but not 10 rebounds for both. I don't think Melo has ever come close in his entire career & STAT has never quite gotten in double digits either.

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    Originally Posted by knickerbocka176
    Anyone who thinks we're a lottery team without lin. Wow.
    The thing is we were a lottery team before Linsanity happened.
    With that said the east should be weaker next year especially with Orlando losing Howard at some point. I think we definitely need to improve our backcourt though. Right now our starting backcourt guards both shot 40% last year and J Kidd shot 35%.

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    Originally Posted by STAT1
    25 pts I can see but not 10 rebounds for both. I don't think Melo has ever come close in his entire career & STAT has never quite gotten in double digits either.
    remember both STAT and Melo were never on top defensive units

    more stops means more rebounds when I say 25 and 10 thats max

    Melo will likely score more this year 28-29 ppg and STAT should be at 24 and both should always be near 7-12 rebounds a game

    Anything less is unacceptable, not only do I want wins but I want STAT and Melo doing work in those games, games where both score 40, Melo with a 50 pt game, STAT with a 20/20 game, Melo triple-doubles and just epic performances

    I'm hyped for this upcoming season as long as we dont discuss Lin all year

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    Originally Posted by LINvincible
    I hate Melo.

    The dude is a drama-queen and can't win playoff games. PERIOD.
    BYE BITCH

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    remember when Melo had 1 point and Breen and Clyde were happy and said this how he should play LMAO against the Bobcats smh

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    Originally Posted by CA7
    remember when Melo had 1 point and Breen and Clyde were happy and said this how he should play LMAO against the Bobcats smh
    There was a point in the season where we were praying for melo stop shooting because he was in such a slump...but after he couldnt miss...kind of crazy how streaky melo was...probly just the elbow

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    Originally Posted by Paul1355
    There was a point in the season where we were praying for melo stop shooting because he was in such a slump...but after he couldnt miss...kind of crazy how streaky melo was...probly just the elbow
    the elbow and the knee he lacked lift and fluidity on his jump shot

    hopefully he continues to slim to push less pressure on his legs and he can jump higher and quicker to help him out

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    Originally Posted by CA7
    remember both STAT and Melo were never on top defensive units

    more stops means more rebounds when I say 25 and 10 thats max

    Melo will likely score more this year 28-29 ppg and STAT should be at 24 and both should always be near 7-12 rebounds a game

    Anything less is unacceptable, not only do I want wins but I want STAT and Melo doing work in those games, games where both score 40, Melo with a 50 pt game, STAT with a 20/20 game, Melo triple-doubles and just epic performances

    I'm hyped for this upcoming season as long as we dont discuss Lin all year
    I'll settle for 24 / 7 out of Melo & 17 / 10 out of STAT, as long as their team dynamic & chemistry is better than last year when they played together. I think STAT's best days are behind him, he's on the decline. Hopefully Felton can get him some easier baskets in the PnR like he was doing when they played together last time. I think STAT just needs to accept the fact that he's no longer the man on this team offensively & just resign himself to playing more defense & focus on rebounding. If he does that it will go a long way in creating a better team dynamic this season.

    Regarding Lin, I think if we had matched that crazy contract then there would definitely have been some jealousy issues in the lockerroom, & you never want that. These guys are human afterall & no one wants to be paid 10 times less than the other guy even though you're putting in the same hours in practice & in games. Regardless if that's justified or not since Lin brings fans to the games & others may not, the fact remains guys would have had problems with him simply because of how much money he was going to make, & that is never good to have if you're trying to build team chemistry.

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    Originally Posted by STAT1

    Regarding Lin, I think if we had matched that crazy contract then there would definitely have been some jealousy issues in the lockerroom, & you never want that. These guys are human afterall & no one wants to be paid 10 times less than the other guy even though you're putting in the same hours in practice & in games. Regardless if that's justified or not since Lin brings fans to the games & others may not, the fact remains guys would have had problems with him simply because of how much money he was going to make, & that is never good to have if you're trying to build team chemistry.

    You don't see how, if the scenario you describe held true, the problem would be with the jealous players and not Jeremy Lin?

    It's not Jeremy Lin's fault he is worth 25$million on the market, but it is the fault of the jealous players for reacting like petulant boys.

    Going by Carmelo's statements about Houston's Lin offer, I would say he has a major character flaw that doesn't allow him to be happy for another Man, and that this jealous streak in Carmelo is just one visible chink in the armor in a personality of a perennial loser.

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