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    Originally Posted by metrocard
    10-11, Amare is going to be different this year...shows a lot of ambition to changing what he was last year to what he was when he first started as a Knick. I expect more shot attempts from Amare, so Chandler won't be featured as much...even though he shoots a crazy high FG% and it would be nice to get Tyson more lobs.
    I agree with this but if Amare happens to go down grabbing his knee or holding his back, Chandler could average as much as 15 or 16 in my opinion.

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    Originally Posted by KingStarbury3
    I agree with this but if Amare happens to go down grabbing his knee or holding his back, Chandler could average as much as 15 or 16 in my opinion.
    With Kidd handling the PG, he knows Tyson and will probably feel more comfortable passing it to Tyson over other guys on this team, 15 ppg is very possible, and that'll make Chandler the starting C in the East, yes even over Bynum.

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    I say he avg's around 10-11 ppg
    Last edited by NYk_Reloaded718; Oct 18, 2012 at 12:06.

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    It's funny how the Sheed thread has more replies than this one.

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    Default Lakers center Dwight Howard mistakenly believes the Knicks' Tyson Chandler robbed him




    There seems to be a perception that Knicks center Tyson Chandler stumbled into winning the NBA's Defensive Player of the Year award last season -- the first time in three years it went to a player not named Dwight Howard.
    The reasoning is simple and it's completely flawed: Howard had better individual statistics than Chandler.
    In his final season with the Orlando Magic, Howard had more rebounds (14.5 per game to 9.9) and blocks (2.15 to 1.44) in an injury shortened 2011-2012 campaign, and on Monday he told reporters that he deserved the award.
    "I thought I should have won it last year, to be honest with you," Howard said after the Los Angeles Lakers' practice on Monday, [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]. "I was a little bit upset about that."
    Howard believes his wavering trade demands and alleged involvement in coach Stan Van Gundy's dismissal ultimately played a factor.
    "I felt like I did my job to win it," he continued. "I also feel like I didn't because of the whole situation."
    Howard could be right. Voters may have felt Van Gundy was honest when he told the media that his center was trying to get him out of the picture in Orlando and it's not a stretch to think they took it out on Howard, who ultimately finished third behind Chandler and Oklahoma City's Serge Ibaka.
    But even if the voters did it for the wrong reasons, they were right to give the award to Chandler, who completely revitalized New York's defense.
    New York ranked 21st in defensive efficiency (points allowed per 100 possessions) before Chandler's arrival, but his presence created a domino effect where perimeter defenders were able to take more risks because they knew they had an athletic 7-1 center behind them. The Knicks were fifth in defensive efficiency last season and even ranked first in the NBA in points in the paint allowed one year after finishing 28th in that category.
    Meanwhile, Orlando's defense went in the opposite direction. The Magic tied for 13th in defensive efficiency after ranking third in that category in 2010-2011, when they allowed a league-low 32.2 ppg in the paint. That figure ticked up to 34.4 ppg in the paint last season, as did opponents interior field goal percentage (45.8 in '10-'11 up to 47.2 in '11-'12).
    Finally -- and this is a personal pet peeve -- is that in crediting Howard for having more rebounds than anyone, we're including offensive rebounds. This isn't of particular importance in this case because Howard led the league in defensive rebounds (10.8 per game), but why do we insist on including offensive rebounds in the DPOY voting? That always struck me as odd.
    In the end, Howard might be justified to think that the media circus in Orlando -- as well as his back injury -- cost him the award. But anyone who saw the Knicks transform from one of the league's worst defensive teams into one of its best knows where the credit belongs. Yes, coach Mike Woodson and combo guard Iman Shumpert had a role in that, but their contributions would have never been possible without Chandler.

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    Dwhinybitch Howard.

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    Originally Posted by Knicks4Life_1985



    There seems to be a perception that Knicks center Tyson Chandler stumbled into winning the NBA's Defensive Player of the Year award last season -- the first time in three years it went to a player not named Dwight Howard.
    The reasoning is simple and it's completely flawed: Howard had better individual statistics than Chandler.
    In his final season with the Orlando Magic, Howard had more rebounds (14.5 per game to 9.9) and blocks (2.15 to 1.44) in an injury shortened 2011-2012 campaign, and on Monday he told reporters that he deserved the award.
    "I thought I should have won it last year, to be honest with you," Howard said after the Los Angeles Lakers' practice on Monday, [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]. "I was a little bit upset about that."
    Howard believes his wavering trade demands and alleged involvement in coach Stan Van Gundy's dismissal ultimately played a factor.
    "I felt like I did my job to win it," he continued. "I also feel like I didn't because of the whole situation."
    Howard could be right. Voters may have felt Van Gundy was honest when he told the media that his center was trying to get him out of the picture in Orlando and it's not a stretch to think they took it out on Howard, who ultimately finished third behind Chandler and Oklahoma City's Serge Ibaka.
    But even if the voters did it for the wrong reasons, they were right to give the award to Chandler, who completely revitalized New York's defense.
    New York ranked 21st in defensive efficiency (points allowed per 100 possessions) before Chandler's arrival, but his presence created a domino effect where perimeter defenders were able to take more risks because they knew they had an athletic 7-1 center behind them. The Knicks were fifth in defensive efficiency last season and even ranked first in the NBA in points in the paint allowed one year after finishing 28th in that category.
    Meanwhile, Orlando's defense went in the opposite direction. The Magic tied for 13th in defensive efficiency after ranking third in that category in 2010-2011, when they allowed a league-low 32.2 ppg in the paint. That figure ticked up to 34.4 ppg in the paint last season, as did opponents interior field goal percentage (45.8 in '10-'11 up to 47.2 in '11-'12).
    Finally -- and this is a personal pet peeve -- is that in crediting Howard for having more rebounds than anyone, we're including offensive rebounds. This isn't of particular importance in this case because Howard led the league in defensive rebounds (10.8 per game), but why do we insist on including offensive rebounds in the DPOY voting? That always struck me as odd.
    In the end, Howard might be justified to think that the media circus in Orlando -- as well as his back injury -- cost him the award. But anyone who saw the Knicks transform from one of the league's worst defensive teams into one of its best knows where the credit belongs. Yes, coach Mike Woodson and combo guard Iman Shumpert had a role in that, but their contributions would have never been possible without Chandler.

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    Chandler is the latest casualty of PRESEASON. WTF is going on???? So long for starting out the gate strong.

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    Originally Posted by nyk_nyk
    Chandler is the latest casualty of PRESEASON. WTF is going on???? So long for starting out the gate strong.

    He walked off the court..likely will miss a couple of practices is all. If we had a game tomorrow I'd be scared with a week to go he'll be in there Opening Night.

    A strain vs. a serious injury is the equivelant to a QB jamming his finger on his throwing hand vs. breaking the hand all together!

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    Originally Posted by New New York
    He walked off the court..likely will miss a couple of practices is all. If we had a game tomorrow I'd be scared with a week to go he'll be in there Opening Night.

    A strain vs. a serious injury is the equivelant to a QB jamming his finger on his throwing hand vs. breaking the hand all together!
    I have high hopes that he will be there on Opening Night also. Let's hope the injury is just a strain like they say.

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    Originally Posted by Knicks4Life_1985



    There seems to be a perception that Knicks center Tyson Chandler stumbled into winning the NBA's Defensive Player of the Year award last season -- the first time in three years it went to a player not named Dwight Howard.
    The reasoning is simple and it's completely flawed: Howard had better individual statistics than Chandler.
    In his final season with the Orlando Magic, Howard had more rebounds (14.5 per game to 9.9) and blocks (2.15 to 1.44) in an injury shortened 2011-2012 campaign, and on Monday he told reporters that he deserved the award.
    "I thought I should have won it last year, to be honest with you," Howard said after the Los Angeles Lakers' practice on Monday, [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]. "I was a little bit upset about that."
    Howard believes his wavering trade demands and alleged involvement in coach Stan Van Gundy's dismissal ultimately played a factor.
    "I felt like I did my job to win it," he continued. "I also feel like I didn't because of the whole situation."
    Howard could be right. Voters may have felt Van Gundy was honest when he told the media that his center was trying to get him out of the picture in Orlando and it's not a stretch to think they took it out on Howard, who ultimately finished third behind Chandler and Oklahoma City's Serge Ibaka.
    But even if the voters did it for the wrong reasons, they were right to give the award to Chandler, who completely revitalized New York's defense.
    New York ranked 21st in defensive efficiency (points allowed per 100 possessions) before Chandler's arrival, but his presence created a domino effect where perimeter defenders were able to take more risks because they knew they had an athletic 7-1 center behind them. The Knicks were fifth in defensive efficiency last season and even ranked first in the NBA in points in the paint allowed one year after finishing 28th in that category.
    Meanwhile, Orlando's defense went in the opposite direction. The Magic tied for 13th in defensive efficiency after ranking third in that category in 2010-2011, when they allowed a league-low 32.2 ppg in the paint. That figure ticked up to 34.4 ppg in the paint last season, as did opponents interior field goal percentage (45.8 in '10-'11 up to 47.2 in '11-'12).
    Finally -- and this is a personal pet peeve -- is that in crediting Howard for having more rebounds than anyone, we're including offensive rebounds. This isn't of particular importance in this case because Howard led the league in defensive rebounds (10.8 per game), but why do we insist on including offensive rebounds in the DPOY voting? That always struck me as odd.
    In the end, Howard might be justified to think that the media circus in Orlando -- as well as his back injury -- cost him the award. But anyone who saw the Knicks transform from one of the league's worst defensive teams into one of its best knows where the credit belongs. Yes, coach Mike Woodson and combo guard Iman Shumpert had a role in that, but their contributions would have never been possible without Chandler.

    Someone tell Dwight to go to the Knicks Magic game footage and watch how Tyson dominated him

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    He's got a bone bruise, the med staff says him playing against BKN pretty much depends on how he's gonna do this upcoming week.

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    @tysonchandler says he absolutely expects to play on Nov. 1 in the opener #Knicks

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    Originally Posted by NYk_Reloaded718
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    @tysonchandler says he absolutely expects to play on Nov. 1 in the opener #Knicks
    Excellent news.

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    Default Tyson Out? Camby in?

    Tyson listed as probably for tomorrow with flu like symptoms

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    GREENBURGH, N.Y. -- Tyson Chandler missed practice with flu-like symptoms, and the Knicks are listing him as probable for the Sixers game Sunday afternoon.

    "We'll see how he feels tomorrow morning when he comes to the gym, if he makes it," coach Mike Woodson said Saturday.

    Chandler had flu-like symptoms before the start of the last season's playoff series against the Heat, but he returned in time for Game 1.

    Looking ahead to Sunday, Woodson said he'll consider playing Marcus Camby, who he said is "fine," but he's cautious because of the limited contact the backup center has had since returning to the court after a left calf strain.

    "We'll see," Woody said. "I just hate to throw guys out that haven't had some contact. Next week, we've got three or four days before we play again, so that will give him an opportunity to get in there and bang around a little bit."

    On the opposing side, Philly's centers, Andrew Bynum and Kwame Brown, have been battling injuries. It's likely the Knicks will see another smaller lineup, featuring Jrue Holiday, Jason Richardson, Evan Turner, Lavoy Allen and Thaddeus Young.

    While Woodson wouldn't confirm his lineup, expect to see the same Knicks starting five from Friday night: Raymond Felton, Jason Kidd, Ronnie Brewer, Carmelo Anthony and Chandler.

    If Chandler can't go, Kurt Thomas could get the nod, but on defense, Anthony would likely guard the mobile, versatile Young, and Thomas would match up with the bigger, stronger Allen.

    The Knicks' biggest concern is the ultra long and athletic Young, who gave them problems last year and during the preseason. His motor is non-stop and he can do a little bit of everything all over the court.

    "They're long and rangy, they're athletic, they switch things," Woodson said. "Doug (Collins) has taught them great defensive positioning on the floor, and when there's a breakdown they help, and that's what good defensive teams are supposed to do. That's why they're competing at a high level, and we have to have that same thought process when you're talking about defending and rebounding the basketball."
    Im not sure how long Bynums out for Philly but they're a tough team without him, their defense is still very good

    What the f*ck is wrong with Tysons immune system?

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