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    Originally Posted by Kiyaman
    Our best defensive-players that will bring offense:

    C- Camby & Tyson
    PF- Kurt & Rasheed
    SF- Novak & Brewer
    SG- Brewer & Shump
    PG- Kidd & Felton
    Why would you put Novak in for defense? You'd be better off playing Kidd,Brewer, and Shump or even Melo over Novak

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    Originally Posted by deamon
    Prefer Kidd over Melo in defense against Wade or even James.
    Kidd on Wade. Refs will let Kidd get away with a lot of junk.

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    Originally Posted by deamon
    Prefer Kidd over Melo in defense against Wade or even James.
    Idk about that man. Wade MAYBE but Lebron would post him up every chance he got.

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    Yea i wouldnt put Kidd on Lebron, it did work in the 2011 finals at times but thats only because Lebron was so far out of it mentally. The Jet was also shutting Bron down

    But Kidd on Wade works because Kidd is well respected by the refs, he does get away with things. And Wade i predict will lose some more of his athleticism this year. Hes already having problems healing from surgery and hes overweight.

    The paperwork has already been filed for Dwayne Wade to be placed on the Larry Holmes flabby and sick list of athletes. He might get voted in this year

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    Here it is Wade, time to do some paperwork

    Last edited by KingStarbury3; Oct 09, 2012 at 00:17.

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    Originally Posted by Rob Low
    Why would you put Novak in for defense? You'd be better off playing Kidd,Brewer, and Shump or even Melo over Novak

    Novak happen to be a very good help-defender in the paint & on the peremeter, plus Novak has great skills in boxing-out of the paint on the offensive and defensive-end of the court.

    A frontcourt lineup of Camby, Kurt, and Novak gives us 3 great defensive-rebounders with efficient lob-passing-skills which gives oponents "one-shot" and the chance to run-run back on defense.

    A lot of NBA fans believe our Knicks-bench and depth-players are to old to have a winning season .. our experience "old-heads" will prove so many of these fans wrong.

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    Originally Posted by Kiyaman
    Novak happen to be a very good help-defender in the paint & on the peremeter, plus Novak has great skills in boxing-out of the paint on the offensive and defensive-end of the court.

    A frontcourt lineup of Camby, Kurt, and Novak gives us 3 great defensive-rebounders with efficient lob-passing-skills which gives oponents "one-shot" and the chance to run-run back on defense.

    A lot of NBA fans believe our Knicks-bench and depth-players are to old to have a winning season .. our experience "old-heads" will prove so many of these fans wrong.


    Novak is an intelligent defender. In terms of capability, he's well below average, but he knows full well what he has to do, and he does it to the best of his ability. At 6'10, he can be very effective around the basket, and his timing compensates for a lack of vertical. Clearly he's a clever guy.

    Is there any talk on what he's been working on defensively? I know he's been adding to his passing skills, which is a good call considering he'll be targeted as the one trick pony he's been labelled.

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    Originally Posted by MSGhobo247
    Idk about that man. Wade MAYBE but Lebron would post him up every chance he got.
    Kidd LOCKED Lebron up in the finals....

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    Depending on the PG felton or Kidd

    But realistically if sheed makes it with some gas in the tank

    Shump
    Brewer
    Sheed
    Chandler

    And this line up should only come out when the knicks have an extremely healthy lead and want to run the clock out in the 4th.

    Normally i expect to see.

    Kidd
    Shump
    Brewer
    Melo
    Chandler

    With Melo ISO ball like crazy

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    Originally Posted by welcometonycity
    Kidd LOCKED Lebron up in the finals....

    with a helluva-lot of help from his ex-Phoenix teammate the Matrix.

    u guys are steallin-me with how u sleep on Shawn Marion career .. one of the top or best complimentary-teammate to have on a team.

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    Originally Posted by Wargames
    Depending on the PG felton or Kidd

    But realistically if sheed makes it with some gas in the tank

    Shump
    Brewer
    Sheed
    Chandler

    And this line up should only come out when the knicks have an extremely healthy lead and want to run the clock out in the 4th.

    Normally i expect to see.

    Kidd
    Shump
    Brewer
    Melo
    Chandler

    With Melo ISO ball like crazy
    Please-please no-mo ISO-Melo.

    I wish guys would stop putting Shump into the mix, until March .. when we will
    be able to diagnose how well rehab healed the dynamic-athleticism.

    When in close games that lead to crunchtime .. I want coach Woody to have
    the option of three types of lineups to use for close crunchtime games ....
    1) an all defensive-lineup that makes STOPS
    2) a gelling offensive-lineup that scores
    3) and a defensive-lineup that scores consistently
    EFF-letting Melo, Stat, and Tyson play every second of crunchtime-minutes for a 50-50 chance at winning ..
    we will win off of STOPS, and easy baskets...

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    Lebron and Kidd are different players now. Put them against each other now and I'm taking Bron everytime. No disrespect to Kidd but...come on.

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    Originally Posted by Kiyaman
    Novak happen to be a very good help-defender in the paint & on the peremeter, plus Novak has great skills in boxing-out of the paint on the offensive and defensive-end of the court.

    A frontcourt lineup of Camby, Kurt, and Novak gives us 3 great defensive-rebounders with efficient lob-passing-skills which gives oponents "one-shot" and the chance to run-run back on defense.

    A lot of NBA fans believe our Knicks-bench and depth-players are to old to have a winning season .. our experience "old-heads" will prove so many of these fans wrong.
    But Novak is not a better defender,rebounder, or scorer than Melo so im not understanding your logic here.

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    Originally Posted by MSGhobo247
    Lebron and Kidd are different players now. Put them against each other now and I'm taking Bron everytime. No disrespect to Kidd but...come on.
    Agreed, Lebron's added so much to his game since those finals, I mean working with Hakeem in summer 11, gave the guy a low post game, he'll kill Kidd on the block.

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    Default Dantoni's O + Larry Brown's D + Bob Knights Discipline+some Red Holzman

    Was just thinking about Woody as a coach and I realized who he has learned from as a player and assistant coach and he has gotten some great mentorship.

    As a college player he was coached by Bob Knight. Say what you want about Bob Knight (and I would have a lot to say) he got the most out of his players and he was a good coach. He demanded hard work and commitment and that's what Woody is asking of our guys this season.






    Woody gets to the Pro's and is coached as a Rookie by the same man who mentored Phil Jackson. Red preached understanding your roles and no one player being bigger than the team as a whole. Melo's willingness to compromise now is a reflection of that.




    There have been few better coaches on the defensive end than Larry Brown and there have been few better Defensive clubs than The Pistons during their recent Championship and Finals runs. Dantoni loves floor General PG's over flashy ones. PG's like Felton (a Brown favorite) Kidd and Prigioni are all on our roster in large part to this influence.






    Dantoni is one of the greatest offensive coaches in league history. We know about his limitations on preaching Defense, but if assembling a dream team of coaches he would be on it just for his offensive input alone. I believe Woody's time with Dantoni did help him as an offensive coach. The Knicks are going to utilize a lot of Dantoni's offensive schemes this year.








    I love the guy's pedigree! He has learned from some great basketball minds. The one thing he has none of the other guys had was the ability to relate to his players on a personal level. Take JR Smith....Too selfish for Red Bob Knight wouldve never touched him, Larry Brown woudl've degraded him, Dantoni would not know how to tame him! Woody has shown both disipline and respect towards him.


    Excited for this roster for a lot of reasons and Mike is for sure one of them

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    Good thread. I'm not high on D'Antoni in any way, but maybe Woodson will use a fast pace at times when needed because of him.

    He learned from the man who was a key part in winning the Knicks two championships.

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