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Thread: 2012-13 Mike Woodson Coaching Performance Thread

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    People tend to forget that the 2009 Nuggets team would NOT have made it to the Western Conference Finals if not for the services of young 6th Man JR Smith. Chauncey & Melo got most of the credit but JR was extremely focused during that playoff run. I can remember him playing solid D against Kobe, making plays for himself and his team mates. The whole package, much like how he is performing for our Knicks. With that said, JR truly is an All-Star talent when his head is in the game.. and Woody should be credited accordingly for that.

    But, the way I see it, Melo's play also seems to have an effect on how JR plays. I can remember 2009 Melo was focused and playing the right way, making the right decisions on and off the court. When Melo's head is in the game, JR is focused in as well. When Melo plays unselfish team ball, JR plays smart unselfish ball as well. It happened in 2008-2009 in Denver, and it is happening again in New York.

    Its been an interesting relationship between JR and Melo, they've been teammates for more than five years now. It seems like they have a big brother, lil brother relationship where JR follows on the foot steps of Melo. I'm rooting for both of them to have career years this year. Hopefully, Woody can keep both of them in top game condition with the help of our reliable vets JKidd, Camby, Felton, KT, and Sheed. Right now sky's the limit for our team and both of these gentlemen. I can't wait to see this season unfold.

    Let's go KNICKS!!!

    Melo for MVP

    JR for Most Improved/ 6th Man of the Year


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    7 turnovers!

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    They should definately post a video of Woody running on KnicksNow.

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    I was so wrong about Swish, I remember I even said we shouldn't resign him after last season. We'd suck if I were the Knicks GM...

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    Originally Posted by Dzwonsson
    I was so wrong about Swish, I remember I even said we shouldn't resign him after last season. We'd suck if I were the Knicks GM...
    Don't be too hard on yourself bro. I think any sane bball fan wouldn't have predicted how good JR would be this season. He was'nt as potent offensively last season for the Knicks last season compared to his time in Denver, and his shot selection was terrible, to say the least. He even admitted that he wasn't 100% dedicated to basketball last year because of NYC's night life.

    Let's just all be glad that he remained under the radar during free agency. JR and Brewer are huge bargain contracts for the Knicks.
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    I'm wondering however if JR continues to play such an inspired hoops will he seek for more dough someplace else or will he accept what we can offer him which is around $7M if I remember correctly.

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    If the Knicks win more than 50 games and the atlantic division Woodson should definitely win NBA coach of the year. But knowing the media's love fest for the Brooklyn Nets the award will probably go to Avery Johnson when all is said and done.

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    Default How Mike D'Antoni Turned Woodson into a Supercoach

    The move to bring in Woody as the defensive specialist last season was a brilliant one. Woodson has always been known as a defensive minded coach. Being under Coach D'Antoni, Woodson was paying attention on how Mike ran his offensive schemes and spacing.

    When he was in Atlanta, he played a much more traditional NBA offense. Now 10 games into the season Woody's team has shot over 36 3 pointers in 2 games and both were in blow-out wins.

    To me it's obvious Woodson benefited greatly and really watched closely to D'Antoni's system. Woody's Defense mixed along with concepts of Mike Dantoni's system has really turned him into some kind of super-coach.

    When Amare comes back I know we'll see alot more pick n Roll

    Has anyone else noticed this?
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    I have, and I totally agree.


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    Sure...

    it was D'Antoni.

    Forget Coaches like Bob Knight, Red Holzman, and Larry Brown.

    Fail.

    You can't mention MDA and Woody in the same sentence unless you are pointing to what a failure and mistake MDA was being here.

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    ...of course it was D'Antoni who came up with the idea to post Melo 23% of our possessions. (Sarcasm)

    NOT.

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    Originally Posted by JoHnNyBoXeR
    The move to bring in Woody as the defensive specialist last season was a brilliant one. Woodson has always been known as a defensive minded coach. Being under Coach D'Antoni, Woodson was paying attention on how Mike ran his offensive schemes and spacing.

    When he was in Atlanta, he played a much more traditional NBA offense. Now 10 games into the season Woody's team has shot over 36 3 pointers in 2 games and both were in blow-out wins.

    To me it's obvious Woodson benefited greatly and really watched closely to D'Antoni's system. Woody's Defense mixed along with concepts of Mike Dantoni's system has really turned him into some kind of super-coach.

    When Amare comes back I know we'll see alot more pick n Roll

    Has anyone else noticed this?
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    i have been surprised at how many 3s we been taking so far, thought woodson didnt like taking so many

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    Great Thread see my thread when I talk about all the other coaches that have lent themselves to Woody like Bob Knight Red Holtzman and Larry Brown

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    Mike D'antoni doesn't deserve credit for anything. He promised to make the Knicks competitive in his first two years as coach for them and did just as bad of a job as Isiah Thomas did. His excuse was that he couldn't win without star players. He needed to have top 10 players in order to duplicate the success that he had with the Phoenix Suns.

    He was then given Amar'e Stoudemire and Carmelo Anthony and led the Knicks to a first round sweep in his third season and nearly caused the Knicks to miss the playoffs last season.His second excuse was that he couldn't win with Carmelo Anthony leading the offense and needed a dominating PG to prove how his system could lead a team to a title. Apparently he couldn't win with just any superstar but needed certain superstars to win.

    In his close to four year stint with the Knicks, D'antoni's coaching record was 121-167 with zero playoff wins and had the Knicks finish in the top 8 of worst defensive teams in the NBA his first three seasons with them. And on top of that he benched players that would have helped the Knicks win games.

    It is sad how people look for ways to praise this guy long after he is no longer here and are quick to dismiss his flaws. To say that Mike Woodson's current success is due to Mike D'antoni is an insult and can only come from the mind of a D'antoni defender, no offense to the OP of this thread.

    D'antoni resigning and Woodson taking over for him was one of the best things to happen to this franchise. The Knicks no longer had to deal with an incompetent coach who miscoached a talented group of players to underacheive. They replaced him with a guy who knows how to communicate with all of his players and knows that defense is what wins championships not an offensive system that only certain players could play under.

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