2012-13 Carmelo Anthony Player Performance and News Thread

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KingCharles34

All Star
derrick rose, i think rondo had a triple double( I'm going to look that up)

Exactly my point, and yes Rondo did have a triple double...hes got everybody beat.

The Celtics and the Heat are two of the toughest teams for a star to get 40 points against. Carmelo did it in back to back years in the playoffs, proving that when hes at his best offensively, hes as tough as just about anyone else is to stop. Some might also conclude:

A) that Carmelo's selfishness is the reason why we only won 1 playoff game in the past 2 years

OR....

B) The team had injuries, which is why we only won playoff game


Im somewhere in the middle. While hes not as selfish as many say he is, perhaps if our team had performed better during the regular seasons of last year and 2 years ago, that we woulda made it out the 1st round.
 

Crazy⑧s

Evacuee
Exactly my point, and yes Rondo did have a triple double...hes got everybody beat.

The Celtics and the Heat are two of the toughest teams for a star to get 40 points against. Carmelo did it in back to back years in the playoffs, proving that when hes at his best offensively, hes as tough as just about anyone else is to stop. Some might also conclude:

A) that Carmelo's selfishness is the reason why we only won 1 playoff game in the past 2 years

OR....

B) The team had injuries, which is why we only won playoff game


Im somewhere in the middle. While hes not as selfish as many say he is, perhaps if our team had performed better during the regular seasons of last year and 2 years ago, that we woulda made it out the 1st round.

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CA7

Scoring Champ
If we win 50+ games, Melo averages 25 and 8 shooting 50% and we get at least to the ECSF then Melo will get some heat off his back until then he's gonna be criticized but he's our best player and we have to believe in him

Also as for Team USA, he isn't being set up properly, he's in with Westbrook and Williams and they're both jacking up jumpers all game when he's in with LBJ and CP3 he balls hard
 

CA7

Scoring Champ
While Carmelo Anthony was in Las Vegas about a week ago, Mike Woodson came out to check on his star player and see how he looked on the court.

Melo told ESPN New York that his head coach was very pleased with what he saw.

"He said I was way ahead of schedule," said Anthony, who was pushed by Woody to get into top shape during the offseason. "I think it was big for him to actually be here and just see the work that myself and Tyson [Chandler] has put into the commitment of USA basketball and the commitment of making ourselves better physically, see where we're at mentally. Just to have him here, it was big for him, it was big for us to see that support."

For Melo, that meant losing 12 pounds (he now roughly weighs 239) and gaining more quickness -- on top of his strength -- thanks to renowned NBA trainer Idan Ravin, who's worked one-on-one with nearly half of Team USA, including Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Kevin Durant, Chris Paul, Kevin Love and Blake Griffin. That doesn't include Dwyane Wade and Dwight Howard, who were left off the roster due to injuries. In addition, he's trained Amare Stoudemire.

About two weeks after the Knicks' season ended, Ravin met Anthony in the Los Angeles area to begin offseason training at an undisclosed gym. Occasionally, Paul, J.R. Smith, his brother, Chris, and Griffin joined the workouts, and they also played pickup games on UCLA's campus. Ravin, who was first introduced to Anthony through word of mouth before his rookie year with the Nuggets in 2003, said that two-week break is very important.

"The end of season is always a little abrupt, emotionally and physically," he said. "Everybody wants to play a little bit longer. So you give them time to get their head back and see what they want for next year."

Ravin said that Anthony was well-prepared for last season -- "1,000 percent he was in great shape" -- but wrist, groin and hamstring injuries forced him to play through pain and miss 11 regular-season games.

"What do you think happens when you get those injuries?" Ravin said. "You can't run, you can't play, you have to sit, it's hard. He gets affected."

Therefore, Ravin's big focus was getting Anthony to feel lighter on his feet for the Olympics and the 2012-13 season.

"It's better on the joints," he said.

Ravin also took into account how Woodson and the Knicks' training staff were pushing Anthony to get into better shape. To reach that goal, Ravin started with Anthony's diet, as he believes that "sometimes food is counter-intuitive." Many of Melo's toughest critics say that he's not diligent and plays overweight, but Ravin downplayed that notion entirely. He said they're missing something.

"You forget that under his jersey, he wears a lot of that compression-type stuff, and he wears a lot of that protection-type sleeves around his stomach, so it makes him look a little bit wider and thicker," he said. "But he's not fat a--, man. He's a world-class athlete, so he's always very detailed with his diet, with his conditioning. Remember, too, the season's long and it wears on you. Sometimes that's where the fatigue sets in."

On the court, Ravin focused on refining and adding moves to Anthony's game. In addition, they worked a lot on athletic development and improving his efficiency offensively and defensively. Ravin called the NBA "not a league of hugs and kisses" and that players "have to maintain that edge, especially when they're on top, because everyone's always gunning for you."

Ravin provided a breakdown of his work with Melo:

"We focused a lot on agility, quickness, stability, power, basketball and conditioning -- integrated stuff," he said. "There's a lot of focus on [the] mental component, beyond the court, such as meditation and reading books. It doesn't happen quickly; it happens over the course of a career. The goal ultimately is self-empowerment and improvement.

"Some people think, 'Oh, you train the athlete for an hour.' No, average trainers do that. To train the world's best athletes, you have to be a presence in their life all year -- even off the court. With each of these athletes, it's thousands of text messages, and time with them, and lunch and travel. You wear many different hats in order to fulfill that purpose -- being a mentor, being an adviser, being a friend and being a trainer."

Ravin said that Anthony will continue to work with him after the Olympics, and he only expects great things from him next season.

"I always found him to be really well-prepared, so when camp starts, I'm 100 percent certain he's always one of those guys that will be in good condition and his game will be solid and he's improved from the year before," he said. "I've never been worried about that."

Carmelo is training real hard, we should see better results from his training when camp comes
 

CA7

Scoring Champ
I find it funny guys criticize Melo so much yet people like

Coach K love this guy, trainers say he is a great player, hell last trade deadline 20+ teams called and ask to trade for Carmelo

Guys say he sucks yet say trade him for depth and picks its laughable
 

WeReady

Benchwarmer
I find it funny guys criticize Melo so much yet people like

Coach K love this guy, trainers say he is a great player, hell last trade deadline 20+ teams called and ask to trade for Carmelo

Guys say he sucks yet say trade him for depth and picks its laughable

people just want him to do more than being content with getting to playoffs he has the talent but hasn't necessarily applied it yet

Then they look at Denver with them making the playoffs without him causes everyone to think "if we are going to be a first round exit anyway mind as well trade him for depth and picks so that one day we can nab someone better in the future"

I mean there is always two sides to the coin
 

JaYnYcE

Benchwarmer
I find it funny guys criticize Melo so much yet people like

Coach K love this guy, trainers say he is a great player, hell last trade deadline 20+ teams called and ask to trade for Carmelo

Guys say he sucks yet say trade him for depth and picks its laughable

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CA7

Scoring Champ
people just want him to do more than being content with getting to playoffs he has the talent but hasn't necessarily applied it yet

Then they look at Denver with them making the playoffs without him causes everyone to think "if we are going to be a first round exit anyway mind as well trade him for depth and picks so that one day we can nab someone better in the future"

I mean there is always two sides to the coin

I feel you but saying he's selfish when he shoots just as much as any other #1 option, saying he doesn't play D when his PER numbers are solid, he's not a winner when he's been in the playoffs every year and never had a losing record

The 3 things I've always had problems with Melo are

1. The fact he doesn't move the way I would like him too. Its like he's so tight in his thighs that he runs so awkward and even when dribbling up the court he doesn't have any moves. He needs to do some PG drills and learn a better running technique, that **** did wonders for KD

2. He knows how to win but he doesn't know how to be a champion. Melo should always be All-NBA 1st or 2nd Team and go deep in the playoffs but its like every year prior to 2009 he didn't understand the task at hand but he's picked it up just these last 2 years have been cluster****. I got faith he turns it around.

3. He doesn't see every game as a big game, he gets up for Kobe, LeBron, Paul and Durant but when playing the Bobcats, the Wolves, the Kings he seems uninterested. Those are games he should be getting 30+ easily while coasting to a victory. There is no reason he should not have a scoring title right now but thats beyond the point. Melo has everything in place right now to make his push
 

CA7

Scoring Champ
Melo needs to wear the orange sleeves more often.

go back to one sleeve on his left arm, leave the right arm clean. That sleeve is for guys with no stroke ala LeBron. Carmelo's jumper is pure and that sleeve I think sometimes hurts his shot.

Also his trainer is trying to make him more agile in the open court, CP3 was helping him with his ball handling and his new sneakers are lighter than before.

In the USA exhibitions I still see some hesitation in his athleticism like he's thinking too much not just ballin. This year I wanna see more dunks and open court play from Melo cause Felton is gonna be out :teeth:
 

RunningJumper

Super Moderator
go back to one sleeve on his left arm, leave the right arm clean. That sleeve is for guys with no stroke ala LeBron. Carmelo's jumper is pure and that sleeve I think sometimes hurts his shot.

Also his trainer is trying to make him more agile in the open court, CP3 was helping him with his ball handling and his new sneakers are lighter than before.

In the USA exhibitions I still see some hesitation in his athleticism like he's thinking too much not just ballin. This year I wanna see more dunks and open court play from Melo cause Felton is gonna be out :teeth:

Perhaps just get rid of the padded sleeves. They look much better without them. Keep both, looks better that way for him.

If Melo is much more athletic next season that's gonna be awesome.
 

Crazy⑧s

Evacuee
CA7, this one's for you. Ammunition aplenty.

While Carmelo Anthony was in Las Vegas about a week ago, Mike Woodson came out to check on his star player and see how he looked on the court.

Melo told ESPN New York that his head coach was very pleased with what he saw.

"He said I was way ahead of schedule," said Anthony, who was pushed by Woody to get into top shape during the offseason. "I think it was big for him to actually be here and just see the work that myself and Tyson [Chandler] has put into the commitment of USA basketball and the commitment of making ourselves better physically, see where we're at mentally. Just to have him here, it was big for him, it was big for us to see that support."

For Melo, that meant losing 12 pounds (he now roughly weighs 239) and gaining more quickness -- on top of his strength -- thanks to renowned NBA trainer Idan Ravin, who's worked one-on-one with nearly half of Team USA, including Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Kevin Durant, Chris Paul, Kevin Love and Blake Griffin. That doesn't include Dwyane Wade and Dwight Howard, who were left off the roster due to injuries. In addition, he's trained Amare Stoudemire.

About two weeks after the Knicks' season ended, Ravin met Anthony in the Los Angeles area to begin offseason training at an undisclosed gym. Occasionally, Paul, J.R. Smith, his brother, Chris, and Griffin joined the workouts, and they also played pickup games on UCLA's campus. Ravin, who was first introduced to Anthony through word of mouth before his rookie year with the Nuggets in 2003, said that two-week break is very important.

"The end of season is always a little abrupt, emotionally and physically," he said. "Everybody wants to play a little bit longer. So you give them time to get their head back and see what they want for next year."

Ravin said that Anthony was well-prepared for last season -- "1,000 percent he was in great shape" -- but wrist, groin and hamstring injuries forced him to play through pain and miss 11 regular-season games.


"What do you think happens when you get those injuries?" Ravin said. "You can't run, you can't play, you have to sit, it's hard. He gets affected."

Therefore, Ravin's big focus was getting Anthony to feel lighter on his feet for the Olympics and the 2012-13 season.

"It's better on the joints," he said.

Ravin also took into account how Woodson and the Knicks' training staff were pushing Anthony to get into better shape. To reach that goal, Ravin started with Anthony's diet, as he believes that "sometimes food is counter-intuitive." Many of Melo's toughest critics say that he's not diligent and plays overweight, but Ravin downplayed that notion entirely. He said they're missing something.

"You forget that under his jersey, he wears a lot of that compression-type stuff, and he wears a lot of that protection-type sleeves around his stomach, so it makes him look a little bit wider and thicker," he said. "But he's not fat a--, man. He's a world-class athlete, so he's always very detailed with his diet, with his conditioning. Remember, too, the season's long and it wears on you. Sometimes that's where the fatigue sets in."


On the court, Ravin focused on refining and adding moves to Anthony's game. In addition, they worked a lot on athletic development and improving his efficiency offensively and defensively. Ravin called the NBA "not a league of hugs and kisses" and that players "have to maintain that edge, especially when they're on top, because everyone's always gunning for you."

Ravin provided a breakdown of his work with Melo:

"We focused a lot on agility, quickness, stability, power, basketball and conditioning -- integrated stuff," he said. "There's a lot of focus on [the] mental component, beyond the court, such as meditation and reading books. It doesn't happen quickly; it happens over the course of a career. The goal ultimately is self-empowerment and improvement.

"Some people think, 'Oh, you train the athlete for an hour.' No, average trainers do that. To train the world's best athletes, you have to be a presence in their life all year -- even off the court. With each of these athletes, it's thousands of text messages, and time with them, and lunch and travel. You wear many different hats in order to fulfill that purpose -- being a mentor, being an adviser, being a friend and being a trainer."

Ravin said that Anthony will continue to work with him after the Olympics, and he only expects great things from him next season.

"I always found him to be really well-prepared, so when camp starts, I'm 100 percent certain he's always one of those guys that will be in good condition and his game will be solid and he's improved from the year before," he said. "I've never been worried about that."


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