2012-13 Raymond Felton Player News + Performance Thread

Rate your faith in Ray Felton to be the PG the NYK need.


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knicksin60

Starter
Felton needs to be benched. Aside from his game against the Heat all we have seen from this guy in the past month is his usual feltdown. If he's playing through an injury and is going to continue to get major minutes then coach Woodson needs to tell him to stop shooting the ball at the rate of Allen Iverson. I don't see why Prigioni can't see more action, the man is healthy and is a proven pg.
 

Scipio

Benchwarmer
I like Felton. I think that he has been good for us up to the last month or so. There is no doubt, however, that he should be benched. He needs to heal those hands of his. It makes no sense to me to have your pint guard, the guy who handles the ball the most, playing when his hands are hurting.

Sit him and let him heal.
 

Scipio

Benchwarmer
Prigioni and Copeland need to get some minutes together off the bench to see if their pre-season pick and roll excellence could continue. Neither of them are getting a chance.

You would think that the coach would be playing Prigioni because defensively he is very good. He seems to be a master at stealing the ball from an opponents in-bound.
 

Oldtimer

Rotation player
Felton

Felton's current season shooting percentage is .396. His career shooting percentage is .411. Felton has never been a high percentage shooter. I am sceptical that his current shooting woes are primarily attributable to his hand injuries. It is, however, a convenient -- and not wholly unreasonable -- excuse for his recent abysmal shooting.

When Felton focuses on dribble penetration -- as opposed to just dribbling -- and ball distribution, he can be very good. But he is not a shooter and he shoots too much. In fairness, however, Melo has defenders tied to his hip. Brewer's shot is gone. Novak cannot get free and Kidd has primarily become a three point shooter. Defenses are concentrating on lobs to Chandler. Felton does not have a lot of distribution targets. Only Felton, Melo and JR can create their own shots. We are going to be much better when Amare' and Shump get back.

Felton's shot selection has not been bad and he can shoot better than he has in the last half-dozen games. Felton tries hard, but he is not as good as he thinks he is. I am tired of all this "warrior" and "bulldog" labels applied to him. They have no relationship to the box score.

Though he is a far better penetrator than either Kidd or Prigioni, Felton must pay more attention to, and emulate, their play. He should avoid top of key head down time consuming dribbling sequences and concentrate on ball movement and distribution. Let the "shooters" shoot.
 

groundpilot

Benchwarmer
Bench him as soon as the very next game. Insert Prig in the starting lineup, bring Kidd off the bench, but keep him on the court in the 4th quarter. You will see a big difference on both sides of the floor.
 

Red

TYPE-A
Felton's current season shooting percentage is .396. His career shooting percentage is .411. Felton has never been a high percentage shooter. I am sceptical that his current shooting woes are primarily attributable to his hand injuries. It is, however, a convenient -- and not wholly unreasonable -- excuse for his recent abysmal shooting.

When Felton focuses on dribble penetration -- as opposed to just dribbling -- and ball distribution, he can be very good. But he is not a shooter and he shoots too much. In fairness, however, Melo has defenders tied to his hip. Brewer's shot is gone. Novak cannot get free and Kidd has primarily become a three point shooter. Defenses are concentrating on lobs to Chandler. Felton does not have a lot of distribution targets. Only Felton, Melo and JR can create their own shots. We are going to be much better when Amare' and Shump get back.

Felton's shot selection has not been bad and he can shoot better than he has in the last half-dozen games. Felton tries hard, but he is not as good as he thinks he is. I am tired of all this "warrior" and "bulldog" labels applied to him. They have no relationship to the box score.

Though he is a far better penetrator than either Kidd or Prigioni, Felton must pay more attention to, and emulate, their play. He should avoid top of key head down time consuming dribbling sequences and concentrate on ball movement and distribution. Let the "shooters" shoot.

Oldtimer...

This sounds like 'Antoni talk. All offensive perspective points (that I agree with)

...but what about the "D"?:shrug:

I get the feeling that we are incomplete; that half of our team is good at one thing, and the other plays D. Like if we mixed:

Felton's handle and heart with Kidd's D and shot... we'd have a CP3

Or if we mix Stat's offense with Chandler's D... we'd have a Garnett

If we mix Shumpert's D with JR's offense... we'd have a Wade

Melo's O with Brewer's D... Lebron

You get my point. Everyone does just enough to not get buried and scrutinized, but too little individually that a compliment is needed.

Why is no one mentioning the lack of defense by our starting guard? Nash with almost a trip-dub off a broken leg. Lin. Felton's lateral movement is slow of foot, and he's not playing the passing lanes.

PG's are almost abusing him. This is not the recipe for success.
 

Oldtimer

Rotation player
Defense

Red . .

I do not know enough about "playing" basketball to "see" the intricacies of bad defense, except through the box score. What you observe makes a lot of sense.

Kidd has lost a few steps and cannot keep up with the young quick guards. I can see that. Felton's defense appears adequate to me. Perhaps I am missing something. JR has looked good to me. Brewer has had a defensive ruputation, but I have seen very little that stands out. Chandler has been inconsistent.
 

Starks

Starter
I'm not sure if he should be benched just yet. He's having a bad run but he's also had some great games sporadically during his slumps. Lets lower his minutes though when he's not feeling it. I don't understand why Woodson allows him to stay on the floor when he isn't feeling. That's JR treatment
 

CoolClyde

Moderator
felton haters rejoice

Raymond Felton is questionable to play on Wednesday against the Suns due to his sprained pinky finger.

Felton sprained the pinky on Christmas against the Lakers. The point guard admitted that he "ain't the same" with the injury and would have to "see what happens." Felton said he won't play Wednesday if the injury bothers him like it did in the fourth quarter on Tuesday, where he couldn't shoot or pass as he wanted. Owners shouldn't have to wait long for an update, but they will have to check back to determine his availability. If he sits on Wednesday, Jason Kidd and Pablo Prigioni would be tasked with running the point.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/b...r-felton-questionable-suns-article-1.1227335?
 

LINvincible

Benchwarmer
The era of individualism on a NBA court has ruined this game over the past decade. What's the BS talk about a 2nd option? How about playing team ball and take what the defense give us. How about penetrate and kick it out to Novak for a 3? What about transition quick baskets? What about finding a slashing player towards the basket? The Knicks just look like an old and slow crawling engine. It's the same old tired half court ISO game.

They should be thankful they are in this god awful Eastern Conference. If they are lucky, they 'might' get to round 2.

I got a chance to watch the Rockets dismantle the 'best' defensive team last night on National TV. The same team that the Knicks have failed twice to beat this season. The Rockets finished with 4 players scoring 20+ points! 4! Team BALL ROCKS! It's how the game should be played.
 

smokes

Huge Member
The era of individualism on a NBA court has ruined this game over the past decade. What's the BS talk about a 2nd option? How about playing team ball and take what the defense give us. How about penetrate and kick it out to Novak for a 3? What about transition quick baskets? What about finding a slashing player towards the basket? The Knicks just look like an old and slow crawling engine. It's the same old tired half court ISO game.

They should be thankful they are in this god awful Eastern Conference. If they are lucky, they 'might' get to round 2.

I got a chance to watch the Rockets dismantle the 'best' defensive team last night on National TV. The same team that the Knicks have failed twice to beat this season. The Rockets finished with 4 players scoring 20+ points! 4! Team BALL ROCKS! It's how the game should be played.

Um, congratulations? I'd rather watch a team win 20 times than 15 times.
 

Red

TYPE-A
Red . .

I do not know enough about "playing" basketball to "see" the intricacies of bad defense, except through the box score. What you observe makes a lot of sense.

Kidd has lost a few steps and cannot keep up with the young quick guards. I can see that. Felton's defense appears adequate to me. Perhaps I am missing something. JR has looked good to me. Brewer has had a defensive ruputation, but I have seen very little that stands out. Chandler has been inconsistent.

1. Check the enemy PG's box score
2. Notice "how" they score as much as how much they score.

When I see Felton's lack of lateral quickness (his ability or lack there of to move laterally to attempt to stay in front of his man) it is boarderline concerning. Guards getting into the lane at will, especially a near 40 yr old off a leg injury, considering Felton's speed and quickness; it tells me he lacks technique and fundamentals.

Then I notice his penchant for self-induced flopping on every contested lay-up. This tells me he needs work on proper body position and release.

The floater is one weapon to use against taller defenders, and he does. But, another weapon he needs to improve is purposely draw contact, maintain balance and put yourself between the defender and the ball. That way when you lay the ball up, a defender must make contact (foul) in order to block the shot- and he still gets a quality shot up.

Just like on offense he relies too much on TC with the floater/lobs... he relies too much on the help defense to bail him out. If Felton cannot adequately stop his man, he cannot start. See Lin, Holiday, Nash, Nelson, Parker and a slew of others vs Felton.
 

elcol

Rotation player
Although Felton has defensive intensity, he literally has no idea how to defend on pick and rolls and he gets abused 1 on 1...Hopefully Prig can step it up.
 

CoolClyde

Moderator
Felton haters must be happier than pigs in sh*it.
here's hoping old man Kidd can stay healthy for 4-6 weeks or we're fu*cked.

Knicks should look into picking up Cliff Paul from the State Farm...
 

Kiyaman

Legend
Adding Felton to the long list of injuries .....

The New York Post is reporting that Knicks guard Raymond Felton will not opt for surgery on his fractured pinkie finger, but will still miss up to 4-6 weeks with the injury. Felton met with a hand specialist Thursday, who determined that surgery will not be needed to repair the "complex" fracture. He will need a split to stabilize his finger. He re-aggravated the injury during the Knicks' loss to the Lakers on Christmas Day.S Sports.

This is not good news ..

We want Jason Kidd healthy for the postseason games ..
We dont want Kidd injured in any sort of way before or after the All-Star games,
by being force to play 34 plus minutes per game ..
Why did we decide to get a non-passin tier-2 PG-Felton instead of keepin a hungry-creative tier-1 PG Jeremy Lin?

Felton's injured finger is not going to make him play any worst than what he's been playing this season,
we need to get Felton punk-A... back on the court.
We dont need Felton service in the 4th quarter, he never was a decent finisher .. but we do need 24 minutes per game of Felton service in the first 3 quarters of the game.
Rookie PG-Pablo is not a 30 minute point on a contender team.
And if anyone has not notice .. Jason Kidd is our best SG we have on the court.
 
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