2012-13 Raymond Felton Player News + Performance Thread

Rate your faith in Ray Felton to be the PG the NYK need.


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FrazierVocab

Benchwarmer
Looked quick I thought it was "Big Baby"....but nah in all seriousness I hope he gets in shape and we get the pre Melo trade Felton because I feel that would not only help the team but help Amare find his game again.

someone else posted this pic...how recent is it?

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Lol! Sorry, I couldn't resist.

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Crazy⑧s

Evacuee
Return of the spud!

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If you come across any articles, news, quotes or tweets about returning Knickerbocker Raymond Felton, please discuss, rant, argue and cry about Jeremy Lin herein.

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It seems as if the majority opinion on Ray is that he's washed up, a numb-nut, a fatty boom, and basically incapable of being the PG the Knicks so desperately need in the wake of Jeremy Lin.

For me, having Felton back isn't such a bad eventuation. He played his heart out for the Knicks before the Melo trade, averaging a solid 17 & 9 as our primary playmaker. His triumphant return to Charlotte was a favorite of mine.

Unfortunately, it doesn't show a lot of his impressive highlights in this video - in fact it shows him getting dunked on and rejected - but what it DOES show, was his brilliant end game rebound to seal the victory.


How quickly we forget!

Plenty of other fond memories to add, but that was a ballsy performance from Ray Felton. One that I'll remember, certainly.

In my opinion, ruling out Ray as a capable, dedicated and suitable PG for this team is a bit presumptuous. I certainly don't believe that he's afforded the sh!t storm that's crashed down upon him, either.

He has a lot to live up to, and playing in Lin's shadow isn't a task that wouldn't daunt most point guards, bar of course the elite.

One thing Ray's always been praised for - except in Portland under McMillan - has been his heart (though it does appear his heart could currently be having a bit of a sh!t time). When we signed him on, Larry Brown, who during the 2009-2010 season was Felton's coach, had this to confide with former Knick GM Donnie Walsh.

When the Knicks were looking to sign a free-agent point guard last summer who could get the ball to Amar'e Stoudemire, Donnie Walsh called his old friend in Charlotte, Larry Brown, to get a scouting report on Raymond Felton.

"Larry told me he never coached a kid with more heart than Raymond," Walsh said recently.

http://www.hoopsdaily.com/content/raymond-felton-playing-all-star-level-knicks-have-eyes-deron-williams-or-chris-paul

And that quote is not a one off, either.

So, I'm backing Felton because I believe his resolve and wanting to be a Knick will catapult him in to form. Plenty of question marks looming over his head, plenty of detractors, very few optimists.


Have your say on the Knicks' reacquired PG.
 
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STAT1

Starter
One thing I have always appreciated about Felton was his heart (when he was playing on the Knicks anyway). He never backed down to anyone while he was wearing orange & blue. I admired his moxy & he was great in the PnR with STAT & made him a better basketball player & vice versa. The chemistry between those 2 was clearly apparent. I'm hoping they can get back to the same this coming season. * fingers crossed *
 

Wargames

Starter
i'll tell you my faith after I see how he looks going into training camp. People are making jokes (myself included) but that extra weight held him back until the end of the season when it looks like he started to get in shape again.
 

21 Shump Street

Benchwarmer
Dont quote me on it, but didn't he average something like 11 & 6.4 last season including when he lost his starting job? That's only 2 points less than Lin averaged per game, and we have more depth/options this season.

All the haters have probably stopped reading this post already, but all signs point to Felton being a beast when motivated. What part of him coming back to NYC signals that he will be unmotivated? Even when he was in Portland last year he stated that he wished he could have stayed a Knick.

Fat jokes aside, he will be like a little kid in McDonald's for the first time when he returns to The Garden. Surely this would be enough to inspire him to be back in shape? No? Well guess what. If Melo didn't get a pass on conditioning from Woodson, then what makes you think Felton will?

Obviously MDA's system inflates all PG's numbers so Felton probably won't put up the same numbers he did previously. We don't need him to! With Kidd being a very solid back up to him we won't be losing much as our 2nd unit starts to come in. I think it is realistic to assume that he will put up something in the vicinity of 14/8/3. Woodson will probably utilise the PG's as facilitator's much more than scorers, and his & Kidd's assist rates will reflect this.

Sorry for the novel but this is my honest & realistic estimation of Felton's performance next season.
 
I'll never understand how some basketball players manage to get outta shape like THAT!

I mean they're playing ball 5-6 times a week (including practice)....how the hell do they get fat? They pretty much need to eat junk all freaking day.

It's impossible to get fat on normal nutrition while playing ball 5-6 times a week.
 

tiger0330

Legend
A few months old perhaps? (Found a YouTube clip from ESPN with... well.)
Don't know what to make of his time in Portland. Felton has a rep as a fiery competitor but he acted like a biatch complaining about Macmillan not having confidence in him and drowning his sorrow in double quarter pounders and KFC.

He's got a great opportunity here in NY, playing with a team he's had success with and better personnel than when he was here last. His job will be a lot easier because he doesn't have to score, just drop those dimes and play D. I hope he sees that and drops his shots per game.
 

NY17KNICKS

★Melo Mafia★
Don't know what to make of his time in Portland. Felton has a rep as a fiery competitor but he acted like a biatch complaining about Macmillan not having confidence in him and drowning his sorrow in double quarter pounders and KFC.

He's got a great opportunity here in NY, playing with a team he's had success with and better personnel than when he was here last. His job will be a lot easier because he doesn't have to score, just drop those dimes and play D. I hope he sees that and drops his shots per game.
Lets be real, Portland is a sh*t place to be.

Jamal Crawford's mom wanted him to play there because she lived right there and wanted to see him play, the dude opted out lmao...

Felton needs to lose weight obviously but who would want to play for Portland lmao
 

orangeblobman

Rotation player
Lets be real, Portland is a sh*t place to be.

Jamal Crawford's mom wanted him to play there because she lived right there and wanted to see him play, the dude opted out lmao...

Felton needs to lose weight obviously but who would want to play for Portland lmao

Portland is an amazing city. Probably the nicest bigger city we have in the country. They have great fan support too and a long basketball tradition.

Those guys didn't leave because of Portland.
 

NY17KNICKS

★Melo Mafia★
Portland is an amazing city. Probably the nicest bigger city we have in the country. They have great fan support too and a long basketball tradition.

Those guys didn't leave because of Portland.
Im talking about the team, I could give a f*ck about the city.
 

Seba

Benchwarmer
Don't know what to make of his time in Portland. Felton has a rep as a fiery competitor but he acted like a biatch complaining about Macmillan not having confidence in him and drowning his sorrow in double quarter pounders and KFC.

He's got a great opportunity here in NY, playing with a team he's had success with and better personnel than when he was here last. His job will be a lot easier because he doesn't have to score, just drop those dimes and play D. I hope he sees that and drops his shots per game.

I disagree.
He got himself in a snake pit.

First he has to arrive in perfect shape, which is doubtful.
He's got to perform at the level he did 2 years ago, which I don't see possible just because this is a whole different team (Only STAT left, as a matter of fact) and a whole different system (ball is in Melo's hands)
The comparisons with Lin will be inevitable, not only Felton will not come near the level of Linsanity (which is unfair, but will be brought up), but baring an injury, Lin will put insane numbers in Houston (it's his team and his team only).
And if (when) the Knicks start to underperform, the pressure will be huge on all the players, specially Carmelo (unless he's carying the team somehow) and secondly on Felton.

Those are the reasons why I'm not very optimistic right now.
It takes a very tough (dumb) guy to take on this challenge. Some people say Felton has the personality, but when we're talking about a guy who tanked the whole last season and got to 30 pounds overweight, I think it's just fair to question his drive and professionalism.
 

metrocard

Legend
I haven't had this little hope in a PG since we acquired Steve Francis.

I just have no faith in Felton, someone help me out here.
 

Kiyaman

Legend
Cross your fingers for the Knicks 2012-13 season

:crossfingers::crossfingers::crossfingers:
Raymond Felton has to many FLAWS for any Knicks fan to be optimistic about Felton return to New York.
:crossfingers::crossfingers::crossfingers:

On July 9th 2010. FA Felton agreed to signing with the Knicks.
Practically all new & old Knicks players were working-out at the Knicks summer facility throughout the months of July, August, and September in 2010. except PG-Felton who did not show his face as a Knicks untill the opening of training-camp. The Knicks got off to a terrible 3-8 record start of the 2010-11 season b/c there PG-Felton were not familiar with his new teammates talents n skillz.
Felton's individual offseason work-ethic has never improved his teammates talents in Felton's 7 season NBA career.

Felton's best career season in the NBA were with the 3-ball shooting Knicks, having one of the leagues top-5 high scoring specialist in the Pick n Roll Amare Stoudemire as a teammate.

The table has did a 360 degree turn on Felton's return as a Knicks .. Felton no-longer have the consistant defensive players PG-Douglas, SG-Fields, and SF-Chandler picking up the slack on Felton's lazy effort on the defensive-end of the court. Instead Felton's new Knicks teammates in the backcourt are known all around the league for their No-defensive-effort SG-JR.Smith & SF-Carmelo Anthony.... Smith & Crawford fancy dribble in one spot that never gets to the foul-line are practically the same type of player .. look at Portland 2011-12 starters and the Knicks 2012-13 starters with Felton as the floor leader.

Real Talk
The Knicks 2012-13 season are depending on three-players (PG/SG/SF) who individual-offseason work-ethic has never committed to "Team-Defense" in their entire career in the NBA. They work hard on their individual-scoring, not team-offensive scoring.
Something to think about in the offseason...
 
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