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    Default I wouldn't be surprised of Chandler benefits from Hakeem offensively more than Amar'e

    Amar'e is a lot better than Chandler is offensively now, but I think Chandler is more smooth. I think Chandler might be able to get a consistent hook shot, and judging from his foul shots, he seems like he can at least be a decent mid-range shooter.

    I still think Amar'e needs to work hard on his ball-handling. It's erratic like J.R.'s, and a lot of times it was plain bad. A post-up game from him would definitely be great, but he rarely has even ever done that, so I don't know how much he could improve on it this summer, whereas Amar'e already has the ability to handle the ball and stuff, just needs to be consistent.

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    Not really worrying about if Amare's offense will get better from Hakeem, more worried about his defense. And it'd be great if TC can expand his offensive game, it would spread the floor more and we could use another weapon on the offensive end. Good call on Amare's ball-handling, he definitely needs to work on that so he doesn't turn the balll over as much.

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    I read somewhere that TC cannot make it to the Hakeem sessions with STAT.

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    Originally Posted by MeloforMayor
    I read somewhere that TC cannot make it to the Hakeem sessions with STAT.
    Most likely because of the Olympics.

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    How often do you see guys this late in their careers really develop significantly? Chandler is 29 and has been in the league 11 years. Stat is 29 and has been in the league 10 years. At this point, their games are what they are. I'm not saying to just give up on development, but I'm not very optimistic that we will see either of them transform their skills. What we can hope/expect is for them to come in top physical condition (healthy), ready to play with intensity on both sides of the court, and with a new found chemistry among the starting 5 from a full preseason. If we can see that type of basketball, I think we will be in for a good season, whether or not Chandler can shoot hook shots. Maybe Hakeem can give Stat some good mental advice on maintaining longevity and success as an older player.

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    Amare just needs 1 or 2 moves that can get him from the elbow to the paint. If he can do that he'll be back to 20 & 8.

    Chandler looks like he has rondo hands. Honestly that would be a good guy for him to watch. Somehow the guy still has that shooters touch around the rim even with the freakish hands.


    I think hakeem would help. Problem is hakeem was big but still skinny enough to have nimble hands. Chandlers hands look like they grew big enough to reduce the space between joints thus limiting his range of motion.

    Only way to change that is to stretch like you have arthritis everyday.

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    Originally Posted by BillyHoyle
    How often do you see guys this late in their careers really develop significantly? Chandler is 29 and has been in the league 11 years. Stat is 29 and has been in the league 10 years. At this point, their games are what they are. I'm not saying to just give up on development, but I'm not very optimistic that we will see either of them transform their skills. What we can hope/expect is for them to come in top physical condition (healthy), ready to play with intensity on both sides of the court, and with a new found chemistry among the starting 5 from a full preseason. If we can see that type of basketball, I think we will be in for a good season, whether or not Chandler can shoot hook shots. Maybe Hakeem can give Stat some good mental advice on maintaining longevity and success as an older player.
    We do not see if often. At the same time, we're wired for life-long learning.

    I don't see why they can't add a little something to their games at this stage. They might not be able to develop as rapidly as in their younger years, but development is absolutely possible.

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    "In an effort to improve his post game, Amar'e Stoudemire plans to spend two weeks working with NBA legend Hakeem Olajuwon next month, according to MSG Network's Alan Hahn.

    "The cost of learning The Dream Shake? $50,000 a week is what we were told. Now, we don't know of Olajuwon is charging Stoudemire full price, but Amar'e plans to get bang for his buck. He said he plans to memorize every lesson so he can expand his game to include one or two go-to moves on the post," Hahn said.

    "Stoudemire has been known as mostly a pick-and-roll player who developed a mid-range jumper in 2010-11. Mike Woodson wanted him to be more of a threat in the post, so he asked his former Rockets teammate to spend some time with Stoudemire. Tyson Chandler is also expected to spend some time with Olajuwon after the Olympics."

    Olajuwon was once nicknamed "The Black Hole," because if you threw the ball to him in the post it would never come back out. You can argue that the Knicks already have a player like that in Carmelo Anthony. Hopefully, STAT will focus on learning some quality post moves without having to dominate the rock to succeed."

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    Dizzamn. If Amar'e came into next season with an Ice Cream Baby Hook, forget it. All day, like the fat guy at the park that you can't guard because of the Baby Hook.

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    Originally Posted by Crazy⑧s
    "In an effort to improve his post game, Amar'e Stoudemire plans to spend two weeks working with NBA legend Hakeem Olajuwon next month, according to MSG Network's Alan Hahn.

    "The cost of learning The Dream Shake? $50,000 a week is what we were told. Now, we don't know of Olajuwon is charging Stoudemire full price, but Amar'e plans to get bang for his buck. He said he plans to memorize every lesson so he can expand his game to include one or two go-to moves on the post," Hahn said.

    "Stoudemire has been known as mostly a pick-and-roll player who developed a mid-range jumper in 2010-11. Mike Woodson wanted him to be more of a threat in the post, so he asked his former Rockets teammate to spend some time with Stoudemire. Tyson Chandler is also expected to spend some time with Olajuwon after the Olympics."

    Olajuwon was once nicknamed "The Black Hole," because if you threw the ball to him in the post it would never come back out. You can argue that the Knicks already have a player like that in Carmelo Anthony. Hopefully, STAT will focus on learning some quality post moves without having to dominate the rock to succeed."

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    Coaching wizardry by Woody. I love it. This is the answer to "Can Melo and Stat play together?" The answer: yes if Stat moves down the block instead of lurking up around the circle where Melo needs to roam. This will improve offensive spacing greatly and up STATs rebounding as he will be down on the block. STAT should embrace this because like our old warrior Pat Ewing, STAT knees are going bad fast. A nice post game will extends STAT's career. STAT can still vacate the lane to open up driving lanes for MELO and nail a jumper or two. And I assure you Woody will employ some triangle aspects a'la Kobe/Gasol so a nice two-man game between MELO/STAT will emerge. We got us a REAL coach now guys, not just some D'amnphony

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    Originally Posted by jimkcchief88
    Coaching wizardry by Woody. I love it. This is the answer to "Can Melo and Stat play together?" The answer: yes if Stat moves down the block instead of lurking up around the circle where Melo needs to roam. This will improve offensive spacing greatly and up STATs rebounding as he will be down on the block. STAT should embrace this because like our old warrior Pat Ewing, STAT knees are going bad fast. A nice post game will extends STAT's career. STAT can still vacate the lane to open up driving lanes for MELO and nail a jumper or two. And I assure you Woody will employ some triangle aspects a'la Kobe/Gasol so a nice two-man game between MELO/STAT will emerge. We got us a REAL coach now guys, not just some D'amnphony
    Never mind Melo reaching another career high in dimes if this pans out. In a perfect world, that is.

    ★ Is STAT willing to be the one who has to change? Can he see that it has to be him and not Melo? How I'd love to hear him answer those questions.

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    Originally Posted by RunningJumper
    Amar'e is a lot better than Chandler is offensively now, but I think Chandler is more smooth. I think Chandler might be able to get a consistent hook shot, and judging from his foul shots, he seems like he can at least be a decent mid-range shooter.

    I still think Amar'e needs to work hard on his ball-handling. It's erratic like J.R.'s, and a lot of times it was plain bad. A post-up game from him would definitely be great, but he rarely has even ever done that, so I don't know how much he could improve on it this summer, whereas Amar'e already has the ability to handle the ball and stuff, just needs to be consistent.
    CHandler is terrible in the post, but he can do alley oops. However Chandler just never looks for passes in the post, so many times he would just miss a perfect pass because he wasn't expecting one.

    Chandler does need a hook shot, desperatly. The guy is 7'1 get a damn hook shot. Roy Hibbert's game drastically improved because of his hook shot.

    Amare just needs to knock down that jumper, but I expect Amare having to improve his post game is a sign from Woodson saying that Amare's days as a primary option for pick and roll are over.

    Tyson is the pick and roll man and Amare will be there for the mid range or post play.

    Amare just needs his confidence back, sad to say he lost confidence in his jump shot after being in the league for so long...smh

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    I can picture Stat getting the ball stripped from him in the post lol.

    I wonder if he'll ever even use post moves. Last season he said he was working on his "dribble moves and 3 pointer" he had me excited when he hit that first 3 on Christmas day, but after that i guess reality struck.

    but to stay on the positive side Lebron and Dwight benefited from Hakeem lets hope Amare and Chandler can to

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