So much D, such limited range.

Will our defense be enough to quell our lack of a perimeter shooting roster?


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Forrest17

Rotation player
The heat were like one of the worst three point shooting teams in the league last year. Other than a few games where Miller or Battier exploded they couldn't do anything outside. Yet their defense and relentless basket attacking made up for it.
 

elcol

Rotation player
The past three years under mda's offense the knicks have relied on the three ball, see where that got us...no where, proving that it isn't as important in a offense as people think
 

Kidd Karma

Benchwarmer
This is an inside out team with Melo, and Amare. Higher percentage of points should be coming in the paint. Attack, attack, attack the cup should be the slogan next year. Draw fouls, get their bigs in trouble early. Use the cuts and passing to dice up the paint, then that should give our "average" shooters some space to hit those shots. Novak, Smith, even the 15-20 footers for Melo and Amare as well. But being lazy given the strengths, will be the thing that does the knicks in. If we can remember to move without the ball, take shots 10 feet or in early in the game, it will do wonders for our outside shooting. The problem with outside shooting, is if you have to rely on it to win games and the way this club is built, it is not relied upon heavily when there are weapons like Amare and Melo. When those 2 are drawing attention on the strong side, Tyson can attack with a lob from the weakside.
 

elcol

Rotation player

Yes, if the three's are falling, so be it, if they aren't we have melo on the iso (and hopefully offball/cut plays) and a tyson/amare pick and roll deal going for us.

Defense will take us to the next level-

but I am still confident as hell about our O too, both letters are inside Woodson.:peace:

So lets stop worrying about our offense, smoke some, watch porn, and go to sleep.:gony::gony::gony:
 

NY17KNICKS

★Melo Mafia★
Beautiful highlights by Lin in this video, really orchestrating the offense.

BTW Dafug was Melo doing passing the ball to open guys and making plays? Like the play at 3:27, Melo why make that pass?? your terrible!:thumbsup::teeth::gony:
#KnicksTape
 

Wargames

Starter
3 point shooting won't be an issue in the regular season cause defenses won't key in on Novak like they did in the playoffs cause Defense isn't as intense. In the playoffs you need defense to win. We are good Felton, Novak, And JR while streaky are decent enough to carry the load of filler points scored around an offense based around Melo and Amare.
 

NYNYK

Benchwarmer
At this point, I'm really not that worried about anything but injuries. I guess we still are a bit weak from long range but given our cap space we had to make moves. Novak, JR, Kidd, and Felton are all decent enough for us. We have good perimeter and interior defenders in Brewer, Shump (when he comes back) and in Camby and Chandler. Melo and Stat are proven scorers and Felton has worked with Stat before.
But the overall health of a team can either make or break a season no matter how much talent you put on it.
 

NYNYK

Benchwarmer
NY17KNICKS;245585[B said:
]Beautiful highlights by Lin in this video, really orchestrating the offense.[/B]

BTW Dafug was Melo doing passing the ball to open guys and making plays? Like the play at 3:27, Melo why make that pass?? your terrible!:thumbsup::teeth::gony:
#KnicksTape

Almost had me replay the video again till I realized Lin was already hurt. Also I was at that game, so double FAIL for me. I guess my sarcasmo meter was off today.

But seriously, that's what people don't realize why Melo has struggled. When no one else is making shots or moving around what is the star player on the team supposed to do? What did Kobe do?
 

jimkcchief88

All Star
We will be just fine...the defense will be better by by virtue OF NOT TAKING AS MANY THREES LEADING TO RUNOUTS AND EASY BUCKETS FOR THE OPPOSITION:)
 

Paul1355

All Star
To be honest the Heat only had Chalmers and Battier carrying them from 3 most of the year....it was their defense that won them the ring

Defense wins championships

However, getting Brewer as much as i like the defense we should have nabbed a guy like Jodie Meeks for his outside stroke...we need to spread the offense BUT with legit PG depth we not have to spread the floor so much with guys that can acutally orchestrate an offense....

unpredictable right now since we have half of a new roster, full training camp, and new coach to start a season...anything can happen but expectations are a 2nd to 5th seed for me, regardless of anything else we have to be a solid team

I love the defense and hopefully Amare can find his stroke
 

Crazy⑧s

Evacuee
NOT TAKING AS MANY THREES LEADING TO RUNOUTS AND EASY BUCKETS FOR THE OPPOSITION:)

That's my concern with ISO ball. Isolation plays had the team suffering run-outs by opponents far too often last year, as the Knicks' predictable and non-cognitive offense stunk up my NBA League Pass subscription.

Opponents flood the paint once an isolated shot goes up, and I don't think less 3s taken will solve much for this team if we continue to pit one man against the other, and still lack in continuity between STAT & Melo, between the backcourt, and also by referring less to the P&R/P&P.

I don't want to see a repeat of botched isolation offense out of Anthony or Stoudemire or, for that matter, JR Smith.

I think Melo will bring it this year, all signs point to him doing so, but if STAT and JR come out playing their bipolar offensive games, isolating and menstruating, there'll be another start to the season that's showered with MSG jeers.

The majority of failed iso offense last season, naturally, was under D'Antoni. I am aware of that - who isn't? But there'll have to be less isolation, or more designed plays that feed off feigning an iso play. Very interested to see what happens, but even with optimism going in, I'm still a little concerned that if it doesn't work (isolation offense), where do we turn from there?

I'm sure we'll be fine and our defense will provide the wins, but I still have Melo-VS-D'antoni-STAT-itis.

Know what I mean?
 

jimkcchief88

All Star
Hey Crazy, happen to MELO's stat line? 37 on 10-12 from three breaking two American records. Not bad for a guy that can't shoot:)
 

Kiyaman

Legend
Where is all this defense coming from?

The Knicks have to many 3-ball shooters .. u can start with Camby.

The Knicks roster are missing a decent PG defender ..
Shump's healing ACL injury will not be fully ready to defend PG next season.
Felton will be forced to be our PG defender for 2 or 3 quarters per game ..
which is not something Felton has been succesful at doing on his previous
teams....Bobcats/Knicks/Nuggets/or Blazers.

REAL TALK
Tyson & Camby are a B+ defending center
K.Thomas & Stat are a B defending PF with help from Novak
Melo & JR.Smith are a C- defending SF .. need help from Brewer
Brewer is a C+ as our 30 minute defender at SG
Kidd & Felton are a C- defending the leagues quick young PG
:gony:
 

JaYnYcE

Benchwarmer
The Knicks have to many 3-ball shooters .. u can start with Camby.

The Knicks roster are missing a decent PG defender ..
Shump's healing ACL injury will not be fully ready to defend PG next season.
Felton will be forced to be our PG defender for 2 or 3 quarters per game ..
which is not something Felton has been succesful at doing on his previous
teams....Bobcats/Knicks/Nuggets/or Blazers.

REAL TALK
In my opinion, Tyson & Camby are a B+ defending center
In my opinion, K.Thomas & Stat are a B defending PF with help from Novak
In my opinion, Melo & JR.Smith are a C- defending SF .. need help from Brewer
In my opinion, Brewer is a C+ as our 30 minute defender at SG
In my opinion, Kidd & Felton are a C- defending the leagues quick young PG
:gony:

I fixed that for you.


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CoolClyde

Moderator
The Knicks have to many 3-ball shooters .. u can start with Camby.

The Knicks roster are missing a decent PG defender ..
Shump's healing ACL injury will not be fully ready to defend PG next season.
Felton will be forced to be our PG defender for 2 or 3 quarters per game ..
which is not something Felton has been succesful at doing on his previous
teams....Bobcats/Knicks/Nuggets/or Blazers.

REAL TALK
Tyson & Camby are a B+ defending center
K.Thomas & Stat are a B defending PF with help from Novak
Melo & JR.Smith are a C- defending SF .. need help from Brewer
Brewer is a C+ as our 30 minute defender at SG
Kidd & Felton are a C- defending the leagues quick young PG
:gony:

so many things wrong with this post, starting with too many 3 point shooters... STARTING with Camby?
that's just inane, insane. the complete opposite of what Knicks are lacking. is this bizarro world?

it's more important to have an offensive PG who can distribute the ball and make things happen, a team defense takes care of the opposing team's PG, especially on P&R and driving to hoop. Knicks should have that taken care of this year. this whole real talk whining about defense is bogus. c'mon girl, your real talk is coming out your sandy vag.
too dumb.

Tyson and Camby are A, A+. what about Tyson's D on DwightHo? Camby's block party persona?

Brewer is C+, are you f*cking nuts? one of the best defenders in the league!

Kidd is C-?

smmfh
 

NY17KNICKS

★Melo Mafia★
so many things wrong with this post, starting with too many 3 point shooters... STARTING with Camby?
that's just inane, insane. the complete opposite of what Knicks are lacking. is this bizarro world?

it's more important to have an offensive PG who can distribute the ball and make things happen, a team defense takes care of the opposing team's PG, especially on P&R and driving to hoop. Knicks should have that taken care of this year. this whole real talk whining about defense is bogus. c'mon girl, your real talk is coming out your sandy vag.
too dumb.

Tyson and Camby are A, A+. what about Tyson's D on DwightHo? Camby's block party persona?

Brewer is C+, are you f*cking nuts? one of the best defenders in the league!

Kidd is C-?

smmfh
this guys a f*ckin joke CC
 
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