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    Default Is Joe Johnson really on the level of Lebron James and Kevin Durant?

    According to NBA.com he is. NBA.com's power ranking has him turning a team that had a total winning percentage of .333 last season into an elite power house in the Eastern Conference. And also has them finishing ahead of the Knicks.

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    I knew that Joe Johnson was good but I wasn't aware that he was better than everyone on the Knicks' roster and that he was as good as Michael Jordan was in his prime. I wonder if the guy that gave Joe Johnson that massive contract a couple of years ago is incharge of doing these power rankings.

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    Jesus Christ....... SMH.

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    Either these people that come up with these things hate the Knicks or they think that Joe Johnson is going to turn Brook Lopez into a rebounding machine and a roster of scrubs and role players minus Deron Williams into a dream team.

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    Joe Johnson on his best day will not sniff Lebron's jock. If he did, ATL would have done so much better during his time down there. I mean he had more talent there than LBJ ever had in Cleveland.

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    Hey dudes. This is an NBA topic, so I've moved it in to the NBA section. Please go and check it out if you'd like to converse about anything NBA related that doesn't concern the Knicks at the capacity it should to be in the Knicks forum.

    The NBA section could do with having some life breathed in to it, for sure.

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    Link to NBA forum.

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    Originally Posted by knicksin60
    According to NBA.com he is. NBA.com's power ranking has him turning a team that had a total winning percentage of .333 last season into an elite power house in the Eastern Conference. And also has them finishing ahead of the Knicks.

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    I knew that Joe Johnson was good but I wasn't aware that he was better than everyone on the Knicks' roster and that he was as good as Michael Jordan was in his prime. I wonder if the guy that gave Joe Johnson that massive contract a couple of years ago is incharge of doing these power rankings.
    I agree that I don't see the Nets finishing ahead the Knicks but it is not just Joe Johnson they are adding. I think the assumption there is that a healthy Lopez and a full year of Wallace plus all there other minor signings collectively would put the Nets slightly ahead.

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    Take it with a grain of salt by putting them exactly one slot ahead of they are trying to say "There is a new team of NY"....Plus it looks like they are a Lin Supporter which instantly means whoever came up with the ranking is going to down grade us



    Pre Season Power Rankings are a joke anyways, every year a team over achieves and every year a team underachieves.


    Also its not just The Nets who we should be ranked higher, I'd take our team over Memphis both LA Teams and Indy and I really am not too convinced Boston is that much better than us!

    The most humorous thing is that they mentioned Melo and Stat's chemistry without considering how neither Joe Johnson and Deron Williams nor Nash and Kobe have played a single NBA game together.


    Please tell me a better bench than ours?


    But I kinda like being slept on/hated it is going to give further gratification when we do start winning.

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    Originally Posted by New New York
    Take it with a grain of salt by putting them exactly one slot ahead of they are trying to say "There is a new team of NY"....Plus it looks like they are a Lin Supporter which instantly means whoever came up with the ranking is going to down grade us



    Pre Season Power Rankings are a joke anyways, every year a team over achieves and every year a team underachieves.


    Also its not just The Nets who we should be ranked higher, I'd take our team over Memphis both LA Teams and Indy and I really am not too convinced Boston is that much better than us!

    The most humorous thing is that they mentioned Melo and Stat's chemistry without considering how neither Joe Johnson and Deron Williams nor Nash and Kobe have played a single NBA game together.


    Please tell me a better bench than ours?


    But I kinda like being slept on/hated it is going to give further gratification when we do start winning.
    umm let me think miami!

    UD
    Ray ray
    Rashard lewis
    shane battier
    norris cole
    Joel anthony
    MMIller
    You where saying!
    and possible Kmartin!

    I want the heat to play it like this!
    bulls first round
    Boston second
    Knicks ECF all the hype both team undefeated on the playoffs! NYC Market on fire! hype! Melo vs James showdown! Shump D vs Healthy wade! Healthy Bosh vs healthy amare! Ray allen draining three over novak! and brewer! Jr shoting the ball without hesitation! and Tyson chandler in foul trouble!






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    Originally Posted by jafet6
    umm let me think miami!

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    Ray ray
    Rashard lewis
    shane battier
    norris cole
    Joel anthony
    MMIller
    You where saying!
    and possible Kmartin!

    I want the heat to play it like this!
    bulls first round
    Boston second
    Knicks ECF all the hype both team undefeated on the playoffs! NYC Market on fire! hype! Melo vs James showdown! Shump D vs Healthy wade! Healthy Bosh vs healthy amare! Ray allen draining three over novak! and brewer! Jr shoting the ball without hesitation! and Tyson chandler in foul trouble!






    Ummm....Wrong!!!!!


    Miami has a bench without a lot of known names but the balance sucks!


    First off Joel Anthony is a starter not a player off the bench

    Rashard Lewis was a horrible signing because they already have Shane Battier to back up Lebron....Battier is a better defender and has played much better than Lewis on the offensive end in the past 2 seasons.


    Ray Allen and Mike Miller is tedious (which really makes Rahsard Lewis even more pointless of a pickup) at this point in Ray's career he is Mike Miller. They both can't backup Wade and again Shane Battier has the backup SF on lock!

    Norris Cole is a nice backup PG, but I'd take Kidd as a backup any day!



    Kidd
    Smith
    Brewer
    Novak
    Camby

    This linuep would beat a few of the team's who finished in the lottery last year starting 5.

    Seriously they would beat last Year's Wizards,Bobcats,Kings,Pistons,Hornets and Raptors.

    Miami bench is good but not great.

    Knicks=Best Bench in NBA!!!

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    Originally Posted by New New York
    Ummm....Wrong!!!!!


    Miami has a bench without a lot of known names but the balance sucks!


    First off Joel Anthony is a starter not a player off the bench

    Rashard Lewis was a horrible signing because they already have Shane Battier to back up Lebron....Battier is a better defender and has played much better than Lewis on the offensive end in the past 2 seasons.


    Ray Allen and Mike Miller is tedious (which really makes Rahsard Lewis even more pointless of a pickup) at this point in Ray's career he is Mike Miller. They both can't backup Wade and again Shane Battier has the backup SF on lock!

    Norris Cole is a nice backup PG, but I'd take Kidd as a backup any day!



    Kidd
    Smith
    Brewer
    Novak
    Camby

    This linuep would beat a few of the team's who finished in the lottery last year starting 5.

    Seriously they would beat last Year's Wizards,Bobcats,Kings,Pistons,Hornets and Raptors.

    Miami bench is good but not great.

    Knicks=Best Bench in NBA!!!
    heat will play tought d and need back up in every position and people that can switch to atleast 2 to 3 position and that why they sign rashard and he is a 3 point snipper! and think of this crunch time tight game 2 minutes to go! lebron james, chris bosh, ray allen, dwade and rashard lewis all on the court who your going to double! are you going to play zone or what!

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    Originally Posted by jafet6
    umm let me think miami!

    UD
    Ray ray
    Rashard lewis
    shane battier
    norris cole
    Joel anthony
    MMIller
    You where saying!
    and possible Kmartin!

    I want the heat to play it like this!
    bulls first round
    Boston second
    Knicks ECF all the hype both team undefeated on the playoffs! NYC Market on fire! hype! Melo vs James showdown! Shump D vs Healthy wade! Healthy Bosh vs healthy amare! Ray allen draining three over novak! and brewer! Jr shoting the ball without hesitation! and Tyson chandler in foul trouble!





    Norris cole sucks, he was the most overrated rookie last year and why he made the rising stars game over shump i do not know, other than that their bench is only three point shooters. They have no versatility in their bench. Our bench is so well balanced its ridiculous. We have jr smith whose defense improved greatly and is an offensive threat, Jkidd who can hit the open three and facilitate and offense while giving us a good 15-20 min of solid D, stevie novak, who is a sniper behind the line, marcus camby, who statistically was the beat rebounder last season, ronnie brewer who is was one of the leaders in defensive efficiency. We got MOBB DEEP, i dont think any leads will be blown with that bench

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    Originally Posted by knickerbocka176
    Norris cole sucks, he was the most overrated rookie last year and why he made the rising stars game over shump i do not know, other than that their bench is only three point shooters. They have no versatility in their bench. Our bench is so well balanced its ridiculous. We have jr smith whose defense improved greatly and is an offensive threat, Jkidd who can hit the open three and facilitate and offense while giving us a good 15-20 min of solid D, stevie novak, who is a sniper behind the line, marcus camby, who statistically was the beat rebounder last season, ronnie brewer who is was one of the leaders in defensive efficiency. We got MOBB DEEP, i dont think any leads will be blown with that bench
    norris cole is better than lin!
    check game 4 of nba finals miami down by 17!
    his defense is great! and he rotate really well!

    shump was hurt in the all star weekend and that why he didn't participate in the rising star and slam dunk contest!

    In the knickers rosters there are only one player i wish miami had and that shumper! he is a best imagine him wade and lebron guarding in the perimeter! to other team!

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    Originally Posted by jafet6
    norris cole is better than lin!
    check game 4 of nba finals miami down by 17!
    his defense is great! and he rotate really well!

    shump was hurt in the all star weekend and that why he didn't participate in the rising star and slam dunk contest!

    In the knickers rosters there are only one player i wish miami had and that shumper! he is a best imagine him wade and lebron guarding in the perimeter! to other team!
    Norris cole sucks lmfao get over it

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    I dont think Norris Cole sucks but hes nothing spectacular, just a decent backup at this point. Joe Johnson is a B+ level player, and Rashard Lewis could be a decent signing in my opinion. Miami might go with this lineup at times

    Wade
    Allen
    Bron
    Lewis
    Bosh

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