Overall we should of received a B.
Our backcourt and bench is better then what they say it is but I guess no one will be convinced until the season starts.
Overall we should of received a B.
Our backcourt and bench is better then what they say it is but I guess no one will be convinced until the season starts.
Horrible job done by nba.com, all they said about Kurt Thomas was that hes old. SMFH the dude can still ball, I agree with what MSGhobo said too. To give us a C is a little disrespectful, our backcourt will be more like a C+ or B-, Felton and Kidd both have a handful of players to dish too that can finish above the rim. If Stat stays healthy he indirectly makes those two better, their styles mesh well. Chandler will work well with Ray and Kidd too. Stat really needs to come through, hes the biggest factor for this team. SMH at them blaming Stats softness on Melo
I am going to say this when the knicks traded for Melo I was pissed cause I knew they were throwing that season and the one after it away because of all the trash they took. No team recovers that quickly and obviously the Nuggets got every resource available in that trade.
2 seasons later and the knicks finally have some depth at all the positions necessary to actually play well and they will be a defense first team. I like there odds and I think the analyst are downgrading them because they have under performed these last 2 seasons. Now however, all the major factors that usually led to those bad results have been corrected.
Hell it hurts me a little to say this but it looks like if they had overpaid Lin, it would of led to some sour feelings during the season. So it was smart to let him go cause the Knicks need no drama this year if they are going to outperform the reputation of being a low playoff seed team.
You had me till you got to the bolded portion. Coach Woody is superior in every facet of coaching to our last "coach". He's more balanced, seems like he's handling ego's better, actually calls plays & uses timeouts wisely, preaches defense, & the most important he hold players accountable. D'Antoni was an epic FAIL in all the things listed. Woody's record after Pringles was ousted speaks for itself. Woody is definitely a fit for this team, & the players respond to him.
^Agreed + rep
Woodson is a better coach and is very well suited to the roster. Not sure if there is another coach out there that is a better fit? He seems to have the respect of the team (at the very least TC, STAT and Melo) at this point.
I personally do not undervalue this roster but I know that the media is. Particularly glaring mistakes (like letting Lin walk) outshine the quiet awesomeness that grunwald has pulled off (Kidd, Camby, KT, Brewer, Novak, Felton).
I expect that we will finish #2 or #3 seed with about 50 wins with this roster, which is the best roster the knicks have had in my lifetime.
This, alot of the criticism towards Woodson was based on his time with the Hawks and then our recent playoff run.
It's totally unfair to use the fact that over his 5 year tenure the Hawks on average only won about 35 games per year. The first 2-3 years of Woody there were a slow rebuilding phase where he had to develop J Smith and other younger players. People forget that his Atlanta team took the 08 CELTICS to 7 games the the ECSF, only mentioning their massive lopsided sweep at the hands of the Magic.
I shouldn't need to explain this for proper Knicks fans who actually watched us VS the heat but people constantly rip on him for not getting Novak enough plays. A key part of getting Novak open relies on penetration from our guards, when your relying on Bibby to penetrate through Wade/Chalmers you know that your decimated with injuries.
One thing that impresses me so much about Woodson is how great he is at drawing up defensive plays on the last play of the game. Remember Rose throwing up and airball for the last shot in our OT win against the Bulls. Or our sole win against Miami when Wade jacked a shot from the sideline. The media says that Rose & Wade just had to take a bad shot, but WHAT made them take that bad shot!? Woodson draws up great plays and has the personnel and the time this year to instill his system. Can't wait!
On a side note, has everyone heard ESPN jizzing about a possible lineup of:
Wade/Allen/Battier/Lebron/Bosh on offense, im more keen to see:
Shumpert/Brewer/Melo/Camby/Chandler guarding them!
Deepest bench in the NBA.
I hear you.
Maybe you're right. We'll see..
Going to try to keep my mind open. Though if you're objective, you will agree that he really has done nothing in his career to prove he's much better than an average coach.
Look at his coaching career:
Team Year G W L W–L% Finish PG PW PL PW–L% Result
ATL 2004–05 82 13 69 .159 5th in Southeast — — — — Missed Playoffs
ATL 2005–06 82 26 56 .317 5th in Southeast — — — — Missed Playoffs
ATL 2006–07 82 30 52 .366 5th in Southeast — — — — Missed Playoffs
ATL 2007–08 82 37 45 .451 3rd in Southeast 7 3 4 .429 Lost in First Round
ATL 2008–09 82 47 35 .580 2nd in Southeast 11 4 7 .364 Lost in Conf. Semifinals
ATL 2009–10 82 53 29 .646 2nd in Southeast 11 4 7 .364 Lost in Conf. Semifinals
NYK 2011–12 24 18 6 .750 2nd in Atlantic 5 1 4 .200 Lost in First Round
Career 516 224 292 .434 34 12 22 .353
He really hasn't done anything.. yet.
In my opinion he proved hes somewhere between average and good as a coach. Sometimes a coaches record can be misleading, lets take Dantoni for example. He had great success in Phoenix but it was really Nash, Matrix, and Stat that had great success. As a matter of fact i havent seen much to convince me yet that Amare and Mike D shouldnt at least give half the money they made post-Phoenix to Nash
dislike! haha. thanks Rono, for pointing out how his team's record improved each and every year!
this year's Knicks squad has a core who has played together, the addition of savvy veterans who know how to play and win, and the mobbest deepest bench in the league. not to mention a better slew of PG's, a better defensive mindset and defensive players overall. Woodson has a fine team at his disposal, watch them run rampant over the NBA!
i've got Wood, son!
Woodson showed improvement, yes. But w the talent he had I think he should have been able to do more in the playoffs and it should also have translated into more consistency in the regular season..
History shows that his so-called improvement got him nothing but walking paperz. Wonder why that was? His record speaks.
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