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    Question Mark Cuban Smokes Kidd

    It looks like getting your jersey raised into the rafters as a Dallas Maverick’s legend takes more than a few solid years and a championship. In this case, Mark Cuban, is preaching loyalty, and apparently Jason Kidd doesn’t fit the proverbial ”glass slipper”.

    Mark Cuban says “no chance” the Mavs retire Jason Kidd’s number via ESPN Dallas/Fort Worth.

    “I was more than upset,” Cuban said. “I thought he was coming. I was pissed. … “J. Kidd is a big boy; he can do whatever he wants. But you don’t change your mind like that. That was … yeah. I’m sure I’ll get over it at some point, but as of now, I wouldn’t put J. Kidd’s number in the rafters.”


    The Mavericks owner and Shark Tank personality, Mark Cuban, seems a bit peeved with J-Kidd and his decision to ditch Dallas for the New York Knicks.

    Cuban had said that Kidd’s decision “hurt my feelings” and Cuban’s recent lash towards the future hall of famer is undoubtedly an extension of his anger towards Kidd’s overall choice to leave the Mavs.

    “He’s a good guy, but I just thought that was wrong,” Cuban said. “You can’t put a guy’s number in the rafters when he decides he doesn’t want to be there.”

    Cuban feels played by Kidd during the off-season, claiming the point guard wasn’t straight forward about wanting to leave. Cuban went on to praise Jason Terry for being honest and up front about wanting to explore his options and even says that the likelihood of Terry’s jersey eventually reaching the rafters will be considered.

    “Putting somebody up in the rafters, that’s something sacred in my mind,” Cuban said. “You don’t just do it just to do it, to have a big ceremony, to sell tickets. You haven’t seen me decide yet. I go back and forth on Derek Harper all the time, but Harp will be up there before J. Kidd will.”

    “I’ve always said my prerequisite was that you played on a championship team for the Mavs. I’d say Jet’s got a shot, Dirk’s an obvious, but as of right now I wouldn’t put J. Kidd up there.”

    Well, there you have it. As of right now, Jason Kidd’s number does not seem like it has a chance of being featured in the rafters of the American Airlines Center in Dallas, Texas.


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    Won't put Kidd up there, but graciously lets the DPOY walk. That's 1 douche point to you, Puban.

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    Originally Posted by Crazy⑧s
    It looks like getting your jersey raised into the rafters as a Dallas Maverick’s legend takes more than a few solid years and a championship. In this case, Mark Cuban, is preaching loyalty, and apparently Jason Kidd doesn’t fit the proverbial ”glass slipper”.

    Mark Cuban says “no chance” the Mavs retire Jason Kidd’s number via ESPN Dallas/Fort Worth.

    “I was more than upset,” Cuban said. “I thought he was coming. I was pissed. … “J. Kidd is a big boy; he can do whatever he wants. But you don’t change your mind like that. That was … yeah. I’m sure I’ll get over it at some point, but as of now, I wouldn’t put J. Kidd’s number in the rafters.”


    The Mavericks owner and Shark Tank personality, Mark Cuban, seems a bit peeved with J-Kidd and his decision to ditch Dallas for the New York Knicks.

    Cuban had said that Kidd’s decision “hurt my feelings” and Cuban’s recent lash towards the future hall of famer is undoubtedly an extension of his anger towards Kidd’s overall choice to leave the Mavs.

    “He’s a good guy, but I just thought that was wrong,” Cuban said. “You can’t put a guy’s number in the rafters when he decides he doesn’t want to be there.”

    Cuban feels played by Kidd during the off-season, claiming the point guard wasn’t straight forward about wanting to leave. Cuban went on to praise Jason Terry for being honest and up front about wanting to explore his options and even says that the likelihood of Terry’s jersey eventually reaching the rafters will be considered.

    “Putting somebody up in the rafters, that’s something sacred in my mind,” Cuban said. “You don’t just do it just to do it, to have a big ceremony, to sell tickets. You haven’t seen me decide yet. I go back and forth on Derek Harper all the time, but Harp will be up there before J. Kidd will.”

    “I’ve always said my prerequisite was that you played on a championship team for the Mavs. I’d say Jet’s got a shot, Dirk’s an obvious, but as of right now I wouldn’t put J. Kidd up there.”

    Well, there you have it. As of right now, Jason Kidd’s number does not seem like it has a chance of being featured in the rafters of the American Airlines Center in Dallas, Texas.


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    Won't put Kidd up there, but graciously lets the DPOY walk. That's 1 douche point to you, Puban.
    well jason kidd was steling money from him! all of this year just like he will do to the knicks he was good when he was in nets but the last 3-4 season he has been less than average except on D! but las year he was just playing like ****jeremy one handed lin torched him! imagine that! Derek fisher last year helped more than him!

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    I see where Cuban is coming from on this.

    It sounds like, to Cuban's mind, it was a given that Kidd was coming back, and maybe Jason gave him indication in some form that he would come back.

    We don't know the details. At the same time, Cuban is a shrewd dude and Kidd knows what's up too. If Cuban is peeved, it seems like it's a good reason, Cuban is pretty straight-forward.

    Whatever, at the end, now maybe the Kidd return to Dallas will be a big-time game to watch.

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    I understand where he's coming from. Cuban said he'll get over it. He let Tyson go for the future, it's not that he didn't appreciate him, and he DID offer him a one year deal. He probably would have signed him to a longer deal this off-season if he didn't get Howard or D-Will.

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    This shows us why owners are hypocrites!!!


    You trade a player and you tell them "it's just part of the buisness" but when player chooses to leave he's not loyal!!!


    I hate how Dwight and Lebron and (Melo for that matter) handled leaving their teams yet each of them would have been traded for better deals

    Cuban didnt trade Nash or Chandler but where was his "loyalty" to them when it came down to their extensions? He wanted to get DWill and/or Dwight so he let Chandler (probably second most significant player to your title run) go

    Wanted to get younger so Nash was let go to get Jason Terry and Erik Dampier



    Cuban needs to get over it sooner than later!!!

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    I guarantee you if Cuban snatched up Deron Williams during the off-season and Kidd still decided to come to the Knicks this article would of never existed... just my

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    Originally Posted by New New York
    This shows us why owners are hypocrites!!!


    You trade a player and you tell them "it's just part of the buisness" but when player chooses to leave he's not loyal!!!


    I hate how Dwight and Lebron and (Melo for that matter) handled leaving their teams yet each of them would have been traded for better deals

    Cuban didnt trade Nash or Chandler but where was his "loyalty" to them when it came down to their extensions? He wanted to get DWill and/or Dwight so he let Chandler (probably second most significant player to your title run) go

    Wanted to get younger so Nash was let go to get Jason Terry and Erik Dampier



    Cuban needs to get over it sooner than later!!!
    Agreed.

    But the Kidd situation was different, Kidd had verbally agreed to return to the Mavs and by the next day, he reneged on it and agreed with the Knicks. In NBA circles you don't go back on your word.

    As for Cuban's loyalty, owners offer players what they feel they are worth. Negotiations are a cat mouse game, he said, they offered this. Cuban had his mind set on cap flexiblity with this new CBA as far back as 2010, before the championship team was built. Cuban felt Kidd could offer a lot more to the Mavs brand well into his retirement, thus him offering a 3 year deal. I'm sure Nelson hated the idea. Cuban is seeking value for what he is paying out. Could that squad he put together in 2011, win another ring, doubtful. Outside of 1 year deals, Cuban wasn't going to find out.

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    Originally Posted by New New York
    This shows us why owners are hypocrites!!!


    You trade a player and you tell them "it's just part of the buisness" but when player chooses to leave he's not loyal!!!


    I hate how Dwight and Lebron and (Melo for that matter) handled leaving their teams yet each of them would have been traded for better deals

    Cuban didnt trade Nash or Chandler but where was his "loyalty" to them when it came down to their extensions? He wanted to get DWill and/or Dwight so he let Chandler (probably second most significant player to your title run) go

    Wanted to get younger so Nash was let go to get Jason Terry and Erik Dampier



    Cuban needs to get over it sooner than later!!!
    This is spot on.

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    Originally Posted by jafet6
    well jason kidd was steling money from him! all of this year just like he will do to the knicks he was good when he was in nets but the last 3-4 season he has been less than average except on D! but las year he was just playing like ****jeremy one handed lin torched him! imagine that! Derek fisher last year helped more than him!

    Cuban owe Kidd bigtime .. there was no-way the Mavs were ever going to make it to the Finals with-out Kidd's strong leadership, and coach Rick Carlisle getting on the same-page with Kidd. FA Shawn Marion join the Mavs for the sake of playing with Kidd again. Rick Carlisle pulled strings of getting the missing-piece to the Mavs roster by trading for the Bobcats center Tyson Chandler.

    Cuban paying Dirk all that money in 2010 is left with Dirk loyalty to fill the seats in American Airlines arena in Dallas .. Cuban showed no loyalty toward Tyson Chandler and Barea who wanted to stay Mavs. When Cuban went after Odom's contract in a trade, that really made Mavs players see Cuban soldout the Mavs future in a repeat to the Finals .. Cuban's loyalty to a championship roster for a repeat in a short 66 game season comes first.

    I still believe it was Tyson Chandler who recruited Kidd to New York under Mark Cuban nose .. Tyson Chandler knows HOF Kidd's strong leadership as a player/coach is what coach Woodson need to have great success from Stat & Melo individual performance.

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    Originally Posted by Kiyaman
    Cuban owe Kidd bigtime .. there was no-way the Mavs were ever going to make it to the Finals with-out Kidd's strong leadership, and coach Rick Carlisle getting on the same-page with Kidd. FA Shawn Marion join the Mavs for the sake of playing with Kidd again. Rick Carlisle pulled strings of getting the missing-piece to the Mavs roster by trading for the Bobcats center Tyson Chandler.

    Cuban paying Dirk all that money in 2010 is left with Dirk loyalty to fill the seats in American Airlines arena in Dallas .. Cuban showed no loyalty toward Tyson Chandler and Barea who wanted to stay Mavs. When Cuban went after Odom's contract in a trade, that really made Mavs players see Cuban soldout the Mavs future in a repeat to the Finals .. Cuban's loyalty to a championship roster for a repeat in a short 66 game season comes first.

    I still believe it was Tyson Chandler who recruited Kidd to New York under Mark Cuban nose .. Tyson Chandler knows HOF Kidd's strong leadership as a player/coach is what coach Woodson need to have great success from Stat & Melo individual performance.
    24 million over 3 years, not enough? Kidd was in the 2nd year of that last contract with the Mavs. Would not be surprised if Tyson got in Kidd's ear after Deron's decision. In order to get Tyson, the Mavs had to be rebuffed by Lebron, Bosh, and Joe Johnson. Mavs at the time held a 12 million dollar unguaranteed salary in Erick Dampier, and tried to parlay that into a sign and trade for those 3. When that failed, they saved the Bobcats some cash, by taking Chandler. Marion also signed with the Mavs because the Mavs had an 8 million dollar unguaranteed salary in Jerry Stackhouse, whom they parlayed in a sign and trade for Marion...for nothing. Cuban maybe unloyal, but he knows the CBA in and out and is not afraid to benefit from it. He even tried to get Kidd to agree to that 3rd year contract to be unguaranteed.....shrewd.

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    Lets fa e it. Texas is a bellish desert filled with ignorant racists. Kidd couldnt wait to get out. He gave a verbal to cuban which is shady but the knicks is nyc where everyone wants to play thats not a moron (lebron).

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    ^ I agree

    Kidd made the right choice, hes coming to a great city and he fits in better on our team then he ever did in DallAss trash

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    Originally Posted by Kidd Karma
    24 million over 3 years, not enough? Kidd was in the 2nd year of that last contract with the Mavs. Would not be surprised if Tyson got in Kidd's ear after Deron's decision. In order to get Tyson, the Mavs had to be rebuffed by Lebron, Bosh, and Joe Johnson. Mavs at the time held a 12 million dollar unguaranteed salary in Erick Dampier, and tried to parlay that into a sign and trade for those 3. When that failed, they saved the Bobcats some cash, by taking Chandler. Marion also signed with the Mavs because the Mavs had an 8 million dollar unguaranteed salary in Jerry Stackhouse, whom they parlayed in a sign and trade for Marion...for nothing. Cuban maybe unloyal, but he knows the CBA in and out and is not afraid to benefit from it. He even tried to get Kidd to agree to that 3rd year contract to be unguaranteed.....shrewd.

    Cuban let the CBA call his shots .. Cuban didnt show any effort in keeping 80% of his championship roster together for a short 66 game season .. plus that championship roster wanted another season together.

    Dolan didnt let the CBA stop him from handing Tyson Chandler a 4 yr contract at $48M.

    Kidd made a wiser decision than Nash....until Dwight joined Nash in LA

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    Cuban used to not be shy about spending money. Theres a cba but he could just pay luxury tax. I wonder if hes having money problems. Maybe deron and dwight asked for too much. Maybe dirk will want out soon. Trade amare for dirk? Lol jk.

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