Dolan and Isiah Together Again

[Real NY Baller]

Dolan is just stuck in being star struck. Zeke was a freak on the court and won chips, plus he has the respect of many ballers around, in and out of the league. He obviously has some purpose; just keep him away from the books. He’s a baller so naturally he can recognize talent but building a team is probably not in his cards. His management of money has hurt the team and damn near his legacy. Just keep him at a safe distance and let him do what he does best…getting the respect of talented players and persuade them to become a Bocker.

[metrocard]

The Isiah era will always forever be a tainted time in my life. I felt so free when he stopped coaching/gming this team...even though his dirty ass has connects with NYK.

[CoolClyde]

The Isiah era will always forever be a tainted time in my life. I felt so free when he stopped coaching/gming this team...even though his dirty ass has connects with Dolan's dick.

fixed it for ya

[Kiyaman]

The problem with Isiah is he knows talent, but Isiah is CLUELESS on what talent goes best together, and how to turn skillful talent players into team-players on the same-page .. this is how we know Isiah Thomas havnt departed from the Knicks organization.
example:
Marbury/Crawful/Tim Thomas couldnt lace-up Ward/Houston/KVH sneakers on a bad day. Plus Jerome James/Curry/Jefferies/and Zach couldnt lace-up Motumbo/Doleac/K.Thomas/and a no show Mcdyess sneakers on their worst days.

C-Tyson
PF-Stat
SF-Melo
Having 3 outstanding frontcourt players who performance in the NBA range as the league top-players at their position on any given night .. however on the Isiah/Dolan headcoachless Knicks the 3 outstanding frontcourt players stand "alone" as individual-players. Not team-players.

Isiah & Dolan are seperated but not divorce...

[nyk_nyk]

I just love me some Dolan and Thomas sexytime! I hope they go balls deep on center court and someone trips on the crusted remains of the love fluid.

Damn this is getting my balls all wound up!

[tiger0330]

Yahoo said Dolan offered Zeke a job but Zeke has reservations about coming back right now.

Dolan is certifiable, someone made the comparison to the Detroit Lions bringing back Matt Millen as the GM, which would never happen. Millen was an incompetent GM so was Isiah, how could Dolan possibly bring him back.

[GordonGecko]

Yahoo said Dolan offered Zeke a job but Zeke has reservations about coming back right now.

Dolan is certifiable, someone made the comparison to the Detroit Lions bringing back Matt Millen as the GM, which would never happen. Millen was an incompetent GM so was Isiah, how could Dolan possibly bring him back.

If you saw a random crackhead hobo on the street that reeks of piss trying to lick a garbage bag outside a restaurant, you probably wouldn't consider him to run your billion dollar sports enterprise. If that same crackhead was your idiot son and you didn't want him anywhere near your multi-billion cable enterprise but had to put him somewhere, he might end up running the Knicks and Rangers. Mentally insane behavior from this ****ing a$$hole isn't any sort of a shocker.

[ronoranina]

Yahoo said Dolan offered Zeke a job but Zeke has reservations about coming back right now.

Dolan is certifiable, someone made the comparison to the Detroit Lions bringing back Matt Millen as the GM, which would never happen. Millen was an incompetent GM so was Isiah, how could Dolan possibly bring him back.

Isiah actually has some sort of Clue regarding the media s*** storm that would take place upon his arrival. How Dolan could opt for such insanity is just completely beyond me smh.

[NeighSayer]

Methinks Dolan has never heard (or possibly didn't understand) Einsteins definition of insanity...

Either that or Dolan is both a peter puffer and insane!!!

[GordonGecko]

Methinks Dolan has never heard (or possibly didn't understand) Einsteins definition of insanity...

Anybody who owns a windows PC knows that theory is bull****

[New New York]

WOW we insult Ewing with a D League offer and try to bring back Isiah in the same week!!!!

My Plea to Isiah


Seriously....we don't want you back Isiah....if you find the next Lebron James in 2nd round it would not be enough to wash away the bad feelings!

If you saved the lives of each and every Knicks fan's favorite family member you could not wash away the bad feelings!

You had your shot and failed in a major way! Give it up!!!!!

I have learned not to hate you ....provided you stay away from our team....I have spent the past 3 seasons cheering for FIU because I felt by building them into a winner it would keep you away from The Knicks....you failed there too....now looks like my biggest fear could come true.

My Plea to Dolan

You are the dumbest Billionare in the world....seriously this has to be true!

You don't care about the fans...and I don't want to care about you! And that's how it should be, see OKC fans don't talk about their owner and who the hell owns the Celtics,Spurs or Clippers? Owners are not suppossed to be figures...unless they know how to market themselves (Cuban and Ivan Drago) or really good at what they do (Jerry Buss) you do neither! Fade away...if you hate the media stop making moves that draws such negative attention!!!!

I hate the bashing we get in the media....yet because of you....we deserve it! Our team deserves to be the butt of all the corny NBA commentators jokes despite having some very smart men with integrity (Isiah has neither) in our front office!

Actually, we the fans do not deserve it, we pour time, energy and money (most important to you) into this team and will always do so....see a threat to become a Nets fan is an idol one because it is not possible for the real Knicks fans to ever leave this team....which sadly leaves us with the reality of dealing with you as a owner.

Speaking of The Nets....I would rather them win an NBA Title than having Isiah back....and honestly this is the majority feelings of fans!!!

[KingStarbury3]

Funniest thread done in a minute

Great work put in by Clyde, green rep for you sir

[CoolClyde]

putting it all in perspective:
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It doesn't really matter if James Dolan decides to rehire Isiah Thomas. We can whine and kvetch and wring dem hands, but the Knicks have already been Zeke'd. The owner can lunch with his former GM/Prez/coach/consultant all he wants, and Isiah can send out all manner of hints that makes it sound as if he has more important things to do besides get paid to do for Dolan what he's already doing for Dolan, and none of it means a damn thing. The Knicks are in far better shape, literally and figuratively, than they were with Isiah directly running the show; but this team is Isiah Thomas'. You know that. You better learn to be OK with that.
James Dolan runs MSG, and he runs the New York Knicks. And because he knows absolutely nothing about basketball, he leans on Isiah Thomas for insight. And because he knows nothing about basketball, he thinks that Isiah Thomas is the sort of guy to lean on for basketball insight. James Dolan has been more or less leaning on Isiah since 2003, with a slight back off from that stance from 2008 until February of 2011, and the Knicks have been consistently Knicks-y throughout. Always famous, always full of obvious headlines, always capped out.
This is all an apparent "thing" because respected MSG sports president Scott O'Neil resigned last week, and Dolan enjoyed what apparently was a delightful lunch with Isiah whilst guarded by an MSG security detail on Friday. The meeting was first reported by Marc Berman of the New York Post, and then on Sunday Frank Isola of the New York Daily News reported that there was "no doubt" Thomas would again be part of the paid Knick crew once a few off-court pursuits had sorted themselves out.
And there can be no doubt that the man's fingerprints are all over this team.
It's been that way since just before the 2011 trade deadline, when the Knicks shepherded a shepherd-load of assets to the Denver Nuggets for Carmelo Anthony and Chauncey Billups. Anthony could have been had, along with some creative financing, the following offseason for a contract worth much less — and anyone following the NBA and its impending lockout knew as much at the time — but Isiah the Caddy decided to go for the green and the Knicks have been trying to make it work ever since. Former GM Donnie Walsh, now aware of his station, stepped back soon after.
Glen Grunwald jumped in his place, and late last season Mike Woodson took over Mike D'Antoni's head coaching spot. Both were former teammates of Isiah's in Indiana, and Grunwald once worked under Thomas with the Toronto Raptors. These things don't happen by accident, and it bears repeating that if Grunwald had any basketball sway over his bossiest of bosses, Jeremy Lin would still be a New York Knick.
Lin was O'Neil's guy. He championed him at the Sloan Sports Analytics Conference last spring, and reportedly wanted nothing to do with the re-hiring of Thomas (or the aborted attempt to re-hire Isiah as a consultant in August of 2010). Apparently just the idea of keeping Thomas around as an unpaid consultant was tolerable enough for O'Neil following that 2010 flirtation with official status, but the combined shock of losing Lin and Thomas' lingering presence was probably too much for the guy.
And too much Thomas is never enough for Dolan, though you get the feeling the Knicks are at a saturation point with Isiah.
Tyson Chandler and Amar'e Stoudemire are up front, this time, instead of Jerome James and Eddy Curry. It's Carmelo Anthony that is flinging 20-footers, not Jamal Crawford, and the ancient vets this time around are the well-respected Jason Kidd and Marcus Camby, instead of Jalen Rose and Antonio Davis. The Knicks might be capped out, Jeremy Lin might be in Houston, and the vaunted (and well-heeled) frontline of Chandler, Stoudemire and Anthony remains an uneasy fit; but on paper this squad is a significant presence even with Isiah's fingerprints still smudging a few corners.
This — and the early September blahs that tend to mark every NBA offseason — are why Knick fans greeted the Thomas/Dolan meeting with a collective shrug over the weekend. The Knicks don't have many pieces to move, no cap space to waste, no exceptions to toss at those who deserve half as much. The damage, both good and bad, has been done; and even if that chemistry never comes about a healthy Knick team should be expected to eclipse 50 wins.
Myriad factors, most involving the much-needed rebuild that Donnie Walsh helped usher in back in 2008, went into this; but Isiah (both in drafting one of the assets since sent to Denver) and strange instances of good timing (better players on the market than existed under Isiah's reign, Stoudemire's injury which helped the team's defensive emergence, if not resurgence, under Woodson) also played a part. There's no doubt that most Knicks fans are worried about this name-heavy roster, but the Knicks are in a better place right now, and there's not much left for Isiah — and by extension, Dolan — to screw up.
We think. They've surprised us before.
Just don't act surprised when it's officially announced, via press release and not press conference. Isiah's been lurking all along; the only eventual difference is that he'll have a place in the payroll, and in your game program.
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my suspicions are being confirmed. the smart guy in the Knicks org quits because he can't stand Dolan inserting his rich boy d*ck where it don't belong (getting rid of Lin, re-hiring Zeke). stupid stupid too much money he didn't earn stupid. Papa Dolan, please rein in your a$$hole son before he runs this organization into the ground. little Jimmy will forever be a stain on this prestigious New York sports team. a damn shame.

[Kiyaman]

If JLin was black, Zeke would have told Dolan, "Give him a 60M 5 year deal, he's a star" and we would be reading in the Daily News that Zeke found this superstar that 29 other teams let slip through their fingers.

Their a**hole buddies, that's fine just as long as Zeke ain't working for the Knicks.

Tiger.... this is the racist BULL-SH.. I dont like from our veteran members .. the Knicks super-star Carmelo Anthony who raise ticket prices sky high did not want a Black Billups, a Black Balkman, a Black Fields, a Black Douglas, and a Asian Jeremy Lin on the Knicks got his superstar status wish. Plus the way Carmelo Anthony called the shots lastseason it looks like Melo dont want a Black Amare on the Knicks either.
As a Denver Nuggets Carmelo Anthony did not want the strong-leadership of the number #1 draft pick Kenyon Martin on the Nuggets team, plus the Nuggets were offered Ron Artest twice in a trade by the Pacers & Kings but Nuggets refuse to accept the trade b/c Melo didnt want a dominating Ron Artest callin shots on his Nuggets team.

Lets get this right ....
Dolan didnt hire Donnie Walsh .. Isiah Thomas hired Donnie Walsh as the Knicks GM as a debt owed, and paid in full.
Recall: Pacers GM Donnie Walsh hired CBA destroyer, ex-Raptor owner Isiah Thomas as the headcoach of the Indiana Pacers ....

Dolan hired celebrity coach Damnphony .. the sameway Dolan hired HOF media coach Larry Brown .. I dont recall owner Dolan ever Firing Isiah Thomas .. owner Dolan did FIRE Chekkett, Grunfield, Layden, and Walsh.

[Crazy⑧s]

Tiger.... this is the racist BULL-SH.. I dont like from our veteran members .. the Knicks super-star Carmelo Anthony who raise ticket prices sky high did not want a Black Billups, a Black Balkman, a Black Fields, a Black Douglas, and a Asian Jeremy Lin on the Knicks got his superstar status wish. Plus the way Carmelo Anthony called the shots lastseason it looks like Melo dont want a Black Amare on the Knicks either.
As a Denver Nuggets Carmelo Anthony did not want the strong-leadership of the number #1 draft pick Kenyon Martin on the Nuggets team, plus the Nuggets were offered Ron Artest twice in a trade by the Pacers & Kings but Nuggets refuse to accept the trade b/c Melo didnt want a dominating Ron Artest callin shots on his Nuggets team.

Lets get this right ....
Dolan didnt hire Donnie Walsh .. Isiah Thomas hired Donnie Walsh as the Knicks GM as a debt owed, and paid in full.
Recall: Pacers GM Donnie Walsh hired CBA destroyer, ex-Raptor owner Isiah Thomas as the headcoach of the Indiana Pacers ....

Dolan hired celebrity coach Damnphony .. the sameway Dolan hired HOF media coach Larry Brown .. I dont recall owner Dolan ever Firing Isiah Thomas .. owner Dolan did FIRE Chekkett, Grunfield, Layden, and Walsh.

One word: conjecture.